Open 607 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over

[Rainbow Unicat]

Ika, explain your reads (one sentence will do).

fire...wow. got any scum games? linky?

@Vei - if you ain't sure about town-reads, who's scum? Your vote ain't doing much rn. (I think. VC?)

[TheCow]

Rereading now, will make a post when I'm done. My access has been somewhat limited, so I apologize for me inactivity. I will work on reversing this trend immediately and post as soon as possible.

[Firebringer]

So far completed one game on this site if that's what you were asking. I was scum.

[TheCow]

Wow, not a lot has happened. Anything you guys want my thoughts on? I would be happy to help, though I don't think I have enough information to be posting reads yet.
UNVOTE:

I don't like any of the current wagons or votes, so I'll be unvoting for now.

[Persivul]

Sorry for the delay, I'll do a full catchup tomorrow.

[West9]

Montosh has been prodded

[ika]

Ika, explain your reads (one sentence will do).

which ones?

i can sum them up in one word

[DonotTrustMe]

It's page 2. Still random votes to me.

[Montosh]

Reading through, I don't see the reads on Vedith. People seem far too ready to accuse and bring em close to lynching.

[Varian-]

@Vedith: Do you think you fall prey to confirmation bias a lot as town? I know asking for self-meta isn't the greatest, but I'm going somewhere with this so just humor me.

@Montosh: What do you see that is town about Vedith?

[Heartless]

oh fucking a' i fell into a newbie game

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[Heartless]

i am scumreading both heads of rainbow unicat.

ika, we need WORDS

[Heartless]

so many newbies

so many nice people

SO MANY PEOPLE PINGING THE SHIT OUT OF MY SCUMDAR

WHAT
THE
FUCK

[Heartless]

the two "catch up later" posters on this page.... i want to vote.
donottrustme and his stating the obvious... i want to vote.
firebringer and his bluster... i want to vote.

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[Varian-]

How much of that is just playstyle/laziness, though? They can't all be scum.

[Heartless]

oh fucking a' i fell into a newbie game

kind of already acknowledged that, man

part of it is probably that i just feel like shit and really should be sleeping right now

[ika]

i am scumreading both heads of rainbow unicat.

ika, we need WORDS

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there.

no but serious what do you mean?

also NO to that read. i refuse to let you lycnh them on day 1 like i will fight you 1v1 if you try to lynch bella

[Firebringer]

Will you fight me if I try to lynch you Ika?

[Wanderer-nl]

VOTE: ika
A friend status does not prohibit someone from rolling scum.

[Randomnamechange]

i am scumreading both heads of rainbow unicat.

ika, we need WORDS

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there.

no but serious what do you mean?

also NO to that read. i refuse to let you lycnh them on day 1 like i will fight you 1v1 if you try to lynch bella

You have my sword.
Relating ti the l-1, the second person who unvoted me (I think Varian) is probs town as he seemed to genuinely want to figure out the game without lynching this early. A post did ping my scumdar whivh Im going ti find.

[Randomnamechange]

Yeah I actually saw that, I checked some of your early-game posts to compare with how you entered here and thought that might have been the reason.

I do have issues with Thecow's vote, but I'm not scumreading him for it right now. Thecow was able to explain why ika voted, but when Varian- explained it 'better', he switched votes. Thecow, can you elaborate on your thoughtprocess there?

The word I would use to describe would be boredom. The game was not moving, and so I was considering joining the Vedith wagon just to get things moving some more. After Varian- posted his bit, I made up my mind and joined the wagon.

UNVOTE: Vedith
VOTE: randomidget

I'll explain when I get home.

If your explanation is similar to what I'm thinking, I agree, but I'd like to hear your reasoning. I'm not sure I like the "boredom" argument, but I can understand wanting to jump out of the RVS stage.

I'm not worried about the votes on me. A little too easy of a wagon without a real reason, but hey.

Why no vote? Because I haven't got much to go on yet and in recent I have been voted up for random day 1 votes.
I was also unsure of what a Hydra was so that took my focus from other posts as of then. (I'm aware now).

Apart from that, I'm not sure why I would question the votes before my comment so soon.

As for a vote, i'll go with the theory of 3rd vote is always scum.

VOTE: TheCow

Was that vote serious, or are you still RVSing?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: vedith
L-1
Please don't hammer just yet.

Not a fan of this post. He claims he L1-voted for pressure, but asks to avoid the hammer. If he's not going to get hammered without the person responsible (probably) getting lynched tomorrow for it, where's the pressure? It's almost as insignificant as if that were the first vote, if there's no risk of hammer.

The plea to not hammer also feels... Obvious. If you L1 on page two, shouldn't the idea be "don't hammer yet"? You cost the post its pressure by saying that.

VOTE: Random

Mod:

this is my first time playing a hydra, so I'm looking for clarification. Am I allowed to discuss the game with my other head outside the game thread, or am I confined to this space the same as a single player?

-ASP

This feels oppurtunistic. They don't have a reason to vote me, other than thinking what I was doing wasn't well-executed, which isn't a tell. I was likely to draw sone flak and once they saw vedith wasn't being hammered they could've tried to start a wagon on me.

[Heartless]

I'll get to you in a bit, ika.

VOTE: ika
A friend status does not prohibit someone from rolling scum.

Hi there, Wanderer! ^_^
Could you please be a dear and unpack this a little more for me? Thanks in advance.

[Wanderer-nl]

Hiya TTH. Well I can, but there's really not much I can say. He's using personal reasons to get people to vote elsewhere ('don't lynch my friends Day 1) which is an influence on the game I don't like. You and Bella might be ika's friends and ika may not want to lynch/kill you before Day 2 because he likes playing with you, but that's not how I work. This is a game, I want to find scum, there's nothing personal about it. I like Bella and Plotinus and you too but that doesn't mean I auto-townread all of you on Day 1.

[ika]

Will you fight me if I try to lynch you Ika?

no.

VOTE: ika
A friend status does not prohibit someone from rolling scum.

i know that, however i can sort bella rather fast on if shes town or not. So thats why im saying let me have day 1 to sort her. I am not afraid to lynch them if i were to think they are scum

[Wanderer-nl]

ika, that's already sounding a lot better and logical imo. Gonna take your word on that for now.
UNVOTE:

I don't really have much reads so far. Randomidget comes accross as town for me and Vedith doesn't seem scum to me either. I thought his wagon formed very quickly and I think it's a good reference-point for later. I don't feel like analyzing these votes yet before we had any flips. I always have a hard time reading Thecow, his playing style is something I need to get used to and only met him once before. Hope he's able to post his thoughts soon. I don't have strong scumreads yet, but I did like what Random wrote about Simple Hope. I know both heads of that hydra and don't want to call it scum just yet (more like lazy) Heartless feels town so far.

Reading through, I don't see the reads on Vedith. People seem far too ready to accuse and bring em close to lynching.

So have you been able to develop reads by looking at that wagon?