NFL Football 2019

PJ. · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:28 am

2019-10 = 2009. There's been 11 super bowls from the year 2009 to the year 2019. The Nfc has been to 5 of them and are likely to make it to the 12th.

If your argument is anything other than that the NFC west is consistently so much better than the NFC East that it's harder to get to the playoffs then your argument is wrong.

shaft.ed · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:23 am

The 2008 NFC West had the worst combined division record since the league expanded to 32 teams

Current NFC East is on pace to beat it

That was the point
no one's saying the NFC West has been consistently bad

But pre Wilson LoB Hawks, Harbaugh 9'ers, McVay Rams, it was bad for a couple years

PJ. · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:49 am

An NFC west team also went to the super bowl that season and came within one of the best catches in NFL history away from winning it. So like..I don't get how that's a clusterfuck or anything close to this season's NFC east. Because the NFC East team is gonna lose to a 13-3 NFC West team in the wild card game.

shaft.ed · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:37 am

People said the same thing about the Cardinals

Spoiler:

Say the Iggles do make the playoffs and DJax is cleared to play. They might make a run.
I mean the Iggles almost had Josh McCown playing wide receiver on Monday. Their group right now is 2 practice squad guys and a rookie.
They're hoping Nelson "I dropped two games with my own hands" Alligator gets healthy, that's how desperate they are for a receiver right now.

On the other hand they have a terrible secondary, so it probably doesn't matter either way.

Nero Cain · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:07 am

In post 76, shaft.ed wrote:no one's saying the NFC West has been consistently bad

that.

I forgot that you are a Seahawks fan and that's why you are taking this personally. You are also being inconsistent with your claims that the Pats "choked" and that's the only reason that the NFCe beat them as opposed to the Seahawks beating the Saints b/c they were a better team. Why did the Saints not choke? But you'll just keep replying and this will never end so w/e man.

shaft.ed · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:37 am

Breaking down wild card participation in the NFC (which I hope you would accept as indicating the strength of each division)

From 2002-2008 (current conference alignment starts in 2002)
North-1
South-3
East-8
West-2

Note in this time East took up both wild card slots in back to back years. Also note that the West wasn't really an outlier

From 2009-2018
North-7
South-4
East-4
West-5

Much more evenly distributed

If we look at Superbowls
02-08
North-1/1
South-1/2
East-1/2
West-0/2

09-18
North-1/1
South-1/3
East-2/2
West-1/5

I guess the take home from this is that the West has been better at getting to and losing Superbowls than any other NFC division

ISO · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:20 pm

At least go back to 2000 to make the time frames even

PJ. · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:31 pm

In post 79, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 76, shaft.ed wrote:no one's saying the NFC West has been consistently bad
that.

I forgot that you are a Seahawks fan and that's why you are taking this personally. You are also being inconsistent with your claims that the Pats "choked" and that's the only reason that the NFCe beat them as opposed to the Seahawks beating the Saints b/c they were a better team. Why did the Saints not choke? But you'll just keep replying and this will never end so w/e man.

Because literally the greatest run in the history of running.

PJ. · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:38 pm

In post 80, shaft.ed wrote:Breaking down wild card participation in the NFC (which I hope you would accept as indicating the strength of each division)

From 2002-2008 (current conference alignment starts in 2002)
North-1
South-3
East-8
West-2

Note in this time East took up both wild card slots in back to back years. Also note that the West wasn't really an outlier

From 2009-2018
North-7
South-4
East-4
West-5

Much more evenly distributed

If we look at Superbowls
02-08
North-1/1
South-1/2
East-1/2
West-0/2

09-18
North-1/1
South-1/3
East-2/2
West-1/5

I guess the take home from this is that the West has been better at getting to and losing Superbowls than any other NFC division

2002-2008 or 2000-2008 is irrelevant cause I already said Donavon McNabb was the last time the NFC east was relevant, and that's true. McNabb last good season was 2008. Enjoy watching your team not make the playoffs in a division where 6-10 might win the division.

PJ. · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:39 pm

Also, how dare you bring up the seahawks-steelers super bowl, the most rigged event in the history of sports.

shaft.ed · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:38 am

In post 83, PJ. wrote:Enjoy watching your team not make the playoffs in a division where 6-10 might win the division.

i mean i got to see them win a Superbowl for the first time in my life
I'm good for a while
i'm not a Pats fan or something whiney like that

shaft.ed · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:39 am

and the worst the winner of NFC East will be is 8-8, we aren't as talented as the Seahawks

mathematically worst possibility is 6-9-1 since Dallas and Philly play eachother and are both currently 6-7

shaft.ed · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:42 am

In post 81, T-Bone wrote:At least go back to 2000 to make the time frames even

realignment was in 2002
Seahawks weren't even in the NFC in 2000

PokerFace · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:29 pm

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine ... 01127988~2

shaft.ed · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:23 pm

I've never seen a playoffs so early determined

NFC is done aside from Dallas-Philly game
AFC is done aside from TEN possibly swiping PIT's spot

will be a jostling for seeds I suppose

kuribo · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:23 pm

In post 54, kuribo wrote:So how bout them ravens

shaft.ed · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:42 pm

In post 83, PJ. wrote:Enjoy watching your team not make the playoffs in a division where 6-10 might win the division.

welp
this didn't happen

PJ. · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:38 pm

You're going to beat the seahawks, too. This is an afront to football.

D3f3nd3r · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:24 am

I mean, in the end there were 13 teams with winning records, and the only one that didn’t make the playoffs was one of the 9-7 teams. So it ended up being way less BS that it easily could have been.

shaft.ed · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:25 am

well if they can get the 6 starters that were injured over the last two weeks back and DeSean, and not Darby
they might have a chance

what is it now, 6 of 11 skill players off the practice squad or worse at this point? Two of the non-practice squaders are rookies, one of which left SUnday with an ankle injury and the other didn't catch a pass from Wentz until like week 20

2 OL over the last two weeks

shaft.ed · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:29 am

In post 93, D3f3nd3r wrote:way less BS

like 2010 when the 7-9 Seahawks made it in place of the 10-6 Giants and Bucs?

PJ. · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:14 am

And went further than either of those teams would of =)

shaft.ed · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:47 am

yeah the Giants never did anything out of the wild card

D3f3nd3r · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:32 pm

In post 95, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 93, D3f3nd3r wrote:way less BS
like 2010 when the 7-9 Seahawks made it in place of the 10-6 Giants and Bucs?

I mean, a team can hypothetically go 3-13 and get a playoff berth (if every team in their division loses every non-divisional game, and all teams go 3-3 in divisional play). But yeah, something like that or what the Panthers did a little bit more recently.

shaft.ed · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:25 am

some spicy upsets