Large Normal 247 - Mafia PT

[KayJayQueue]

We aren’t in a terrible position. We are both currently being town read by a good amount. Let’s just kill Hu and see what happens day 3.

geraintm to kill Hu Tao

I’m also not opposed to a fast night.

[Alianna]

We aren’t in a terrible position. We are both currently being town read by a good amount. Let’s just kill Hu and see what happens day 3.

geraintm to kill Hu Tao

I’m also not opposed to a fast night.

Received.

[geraintm]

Happy with a quick night too

[Alianna]

Happy with a quick night too

Received.

[Alianna]

Day 3 begins.

[geraintm]

I'm willing to go outside the hood today, because I will admit I'm 100% tunnelled on Snow right now. Rightly or wrongly, I guess we'll see.

FWIW this is where I think I am right now:

Gypyx
Naerys
Titus

KayJayQueue
Oblivion
Random Nurse

geraintm
PenguinPower

Lycanfire
Snow2697

This is an awful reads list and it thinks you can die after Naerys.

Lycanfire and Penguin swapped the momentum away from Ranger living to Ranger dying. It was the one responsible for ensuring Ranger died. Those 3 slots are town and never dying today. Snow and Hu Tao were attempted counter wagons to save Ranger. Also town.

this feels like an important post to keep for later

[geraintm]

ok, back in the game, done a catch up, think ive thrown mud in plenty of places to go later but if we can get naeyrs today and then maybe shoot in the hood tonight among those seen as very likely town we can inch closer towards the end game

[geraintm]

If we can get a Kill Snow today, turn on Gypyx tomorrow then that might be good?

Not sure we have any better likelier options at the moment.

We have no night powers so if that happens should be 4 deaths further into thr game

[geraintm]

This interaction between gypyx and randomly Nurse is good for us.

[geraintm]

argh, that self vote i hate, i can see people running away from them because of it so putting a vote there to trry and keep the focus on.
youve been very quiet today, less chatty than normal?

[KayJayQueue]

I just feel I’m in over my head in this game

[geraintm]

Today is very snow vs gypyx with Nurse shouting from the sidelines
.
I'm just there to try and get one gone today and then hopefully the focus tomorrow will be on the other.

The ominous "get in the hood" makes me fear gypyx wants to call a truce with snow

[geraintm]

Mod created a neighbourhood of 5, had two of them know each other were town and so the pair of them could go shoot in the rest of the hood with a 1 in 3 chance of getting scum?

Bringing this back in here for "strategy' thoughts.

Are gypyx and Thom paranoid there are 2 scum in the hood?
Because if there is only 1 in thr set up the pair of them just mow through the other 3 members till they catch one and then they then have a town block of 3 or 4 players who are never going to be got.

I have no idea how to play this now. Do I assume that town has to have almost no powe roles, because giving them anything when scum have none seems too much? Do we pick off the confirmed townies in the hood and don't bother trying to hit anyone outside? I think that is what we have to do

[geraintm]

by the way, my super hot take is that kayjayqueue might be scum again!

I still think one of Naerys, Kay and Oblivion is scum for their response to the Snow wagon. And Naerys is the only one of those three who commented on it (when she complained about my mocking tone).

I tried to pick a fight with Naerys, but unfortunately she declined to give me one.

Bold of you to accuse 3 people that aren’t currently voting for you when you only need 3 more votes to get hammered. Thats fun, I like it.

Maybe I just don’t understand the finger pointing. It’s really easy to be on a wagon and then jump off (but not be the first to jump off, just in case, you know, it works) and wall post about how informative it was as if we’re supposed to just dismiss him being on the wagon as well. Feels like a good way to control the narrative, and continuing to reiterate the same reads as an attempt to get the vote off him.

im too tired to elaborate on why atm but these two posts were where i initially got the hunch
i initially thought that kay was doing an insightful sorting take in 260, but 266 recontextualizes differently
it felt like seeing a spark of magic get deliberately suppressed, made me wonder if kay is really trying to sort slots after all.

anyway, reading the whole thread will be but the first step to me getting great reads about the game

Some people are good at this

[geraintm]

You need to not be in games with Psyche. They have you cold

[geraintm]

They are talking in thread of a possible traitor, but we would have been told of them, right?

That's from the wiki.

I don't see how an unknown traitor would help us.

[KayJayQueue]

He hasn’t even read the game and focused on me because I was the one pushing his slot before Penguin repped out so he was already biased. If nothing, Penguin repping out is what did this. But I’m not lying that I’m getting targeted for not knowing how to play the game. I post the same way with the same uncertainty as town and I’m always jumped on for not doing shit “correctly” therefore I’m scum. Even as town. I’m sick of it and I don’t like vets always using it against me without giving any room for the fact that I’m still learning how to play. It’s so discouraging.

[KayJayQueue]

If he was town in any of my town games, he’d be doing this exact same thing. He just doesn’t like that I, as a player, play with uncertainty and caution. He THINKS it’s scum indicative but really it’s just my personality. So yeah the two games we’ve played I’ve been mafia, but none of my so called AtE were anything AI. It’s purely my frustration about things being attributed to me that are lies. I act the same way when it happens to me in town games and I get just as much shit for being defensive and posting “AtE”.

But will psyche go read my other games to see that? No, that would mean he has to walk back his reasoning and he can’t do that with 3 votes on him.

I hope if you read this post game psyche, you can take me seriously and understand that these are real emotions and not “caught scum” nonsense.

[KayJayQueue]

Posting this again, but this time here, as a reminder to myself because it’s so unfortunately true:

I guess the problem is with my personality in general because I think I’m bad at everything and it dictates how I do pretty much anything, including play mafia. I’m always scared of doing the wrong thing and I’m learning that that makes for a shitty mafia player. It sucks because I really love playing but this seems to be consistently an issue in my games, and that means I’m the constant in the equation. I’m sorry I was taking it out on you, psyche. This is definitely my own issue that I need to work on.

[KayJayQueue]

Ugh I’m really fighting myself right now because I didn’t do all that just to not be scumread but this is what it will look like to everyone when the game is over and worse, it’ll inform how people see me in future games. I’m not just throwing a fit because I don’t want to lose, I already figured we’d lose this game especially losing our partner so early. I wish i could just not be an emotional/defensive person and it makes me a terrible player. I want to get better though, but i feel like this issue will just follow me in every game I’m in. So far, it has.

[geraintm]

And now Psyche scum reads me.

We are so screwed.

[KayJayQueue]

Well we already know we’re not a good scum team lol

[KayJayQueue]

I thought you were doing really well this time if I that means anything

[geraintm]

have rolled over and gone with the psyche wagon. they look scummier to me

[geraintm]

Today, so many names being thrown around so I'm not too bothered we are included, though I did always freak out when someone does catch us

Notnsure right now what out plan tonight is, should be split up the pair or not?

How flat do we think town's power is? Can you see them having anything useful? I'm notnsure what we should be worried about from an unknown role