Here are my thoughts on previous vote counts.
First off, damn. I forgot to color absta101 and Junpei green. My bad.
I'll correct it below and just comment on the wagons inline; it's kind of important to have that right.
In post 2, snifit wrote:It is now Day 1.
Votecount 1.1
roflcopter
(0) -
Arugula
(0) -
TeChNoWC
(0) -
Thomith
(0) -
Milk
(0) -
Seacore
(0) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
(0) -
DTMaster
(0) -
Humble Poirot
(0) -
SensFan
(0) -
borkjerfkin
(0) -
Phenenas
(0) -
MormonCoffee
(0) -
Not Voting:
roflcopter
,
Arugula
,
TeChNoWC
,
Thomith
,
Milk
,
Seacore
,
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
,
DTMaster
,
Humble Poirot
,
SensFan
,
borkjerfkin
,
Phenenas
,
MormonCoffee
In post 27, snifit wrote:Votecount 1.2
roflcopter
(0) -
Arugula
(0) -
TeChNoWC
(L-6) -
Arugula
Thomith
(L-5) -
borkjerfkin
,
Milk
Milk
(L-5) -
MormonCoffee
,
Phenenas
Seacore
(0) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
(L-3) -
Thomith
,
DTMaster
,
Seacore
,
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
DTMaster
(0) -
Humble Poirot
(0) -
SensFan
(L-6) -
roflcopter
borkjerfkin
(0) -
Phenenas
(L-6) -
TeChNoWC
MormonCoffee
(0) -
Not Voting:
Humble Poirot
,
SensFan
No fuckin idea what URoE was doing self-voting here.
In post 52, snifit wrote:Votecount 1.3
roflcopter
(0) -
Arugula
(0) -
TeChNoWC
(L-6) -
Arugula
Thomith
(L-5) -
borkjerfkin
,
Milk
Milk
(L-3) -
MormonCoffee
,
Phenenas
,
Seacore
,
roflcopter
Seacore
(0) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
(L-6) -
DTMaster
DTMaster
(0) -
Humble Poirot
(L-6) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
SensFan
(0) -
borkjerfkin
(L-6) -
Thomith
Phenenas
(L-6) -
TeChNoWC
MormonCoffee
(0) -
Not Voting:
Humble Poirot
,
SensFan
Would MormonCoffee and Phenenas (replaced by IceGuy and Elmo Teh AzN) really jump on a bandwagon 1 after the other such as in this vote count? I think not. Course, I could be wrong, but what the hell do I know. I thought IceGuy was town.
In post 100, snifit wrote:Votecount 1.4
roflcopter
(0) -
Arugula
(0) -
TeChNoWC
(L-6) -
Arugula
Thomith
(L-5) -
absta101
,
Milk
Milk
(L-3) -
MormonCoffee
,
Phenenas
,
Seacore
,
roflcopter
Seacore
(0) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
(0) -
DTMaster
(0) -
Humble Poirot
(L-6) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
SensFan
(L-6) -
DTMaster
absta101
(0) -
Phenenas
(0) -
MormonCoffee
(0) -
Not Voting:
Humble Poirot
,
SensFan
,
Thomith
,
TeChNoWC
In post 155, snifit wrote:Votecount 1.5
roflcopter
(L-6) -
Thomith
Arugula
(0) -
TeChNoWC
(L-5) -
Arugula
,
roflcopter
Thomith
(L-5) -
absta101
,
Milk
Milk
(L-5) -
MormonCoffee
,
Phenenas
Seacore
(0) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
(0) -
DTMaster
(L-6) -
TeChNoWC
Humble Poirot
(L-6) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
SensFan
(L-5) -
DTMaster
,
Seacore
absta101
(0) -
Phenenas
(0) -
MormonCoffee
(0) -
Not Voting:
Humble Poirot
,
SensFan
Phenenas
has been prodded.
In post 175, snifit wrote:Votecount 1.6
roflcopter
(L-6) -
Thomith
Arugula
(0) -
TeChNoWC
(L-5) -
Arugula
,
roflcopter
Thomith
(L-6) -
Milk
Milk
(L-5) -
MormonCoffee
,
Phenenas
Seacore
(0) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
(0) -
DTMaster
(L-6) -
TeChNoWC
Humble Poirot
(L-6) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
SensFan
(L-5) -
DTMaster
,
Seacore
absta101
(0) -
Phenenas
(0) -
MormonCoffee
(0) -
Not Voting:
Humble Poirot
,
SensFan
,
absta101
MormonCoffee
has been prodded.
Phenenas
has requested replacement.
In post 228, snifit wrote:Votecount 1.7
roflcopter
(L-5) -
Arugula
,
TeChNoWC
Arugula
(0) -
TeChNoWC
(L-6) -
roflcopter
Thomith
(L-6) -
Junpei
Junpei
(L-6) -
MormonCoffee
Seacore
(0) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
(0) -
DTMaster
(0) -
Humble Poirot
(L-6) -
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
SensFan
(L-4) -
DTMaster
,
Seacore
,
absta101
absta101
(0) -
Elmo Teh AzN
(0) -
MormonCoffee
(0) -
Not Voting:
Humble Poirot
,
SensFan
,
Thomith
,
Elmo Teh AzN
SensFan
has been prodded.
Searching for a replacement for
MormonCoffee
as he has not posted in the 48 hours following a prod.
In post 257, snifit wrote:Votecount 1.8
roflcopter
(0) -
Arugula
(0) -
TeChNoWC
(L-6) -
roflcopter
Thomith
(0) -
Junpei
(L-6) -
IceGuy
Seacore
(L-6) -
SensFan
UberNinja
(0) -
DTMaster
(0) -
Humble Poirot
(L-6) -
UberNinja
SensFan
(L-1) -
DTMaster
,
Seacore
,
absta101
,
Arugula
,
Junpei
,
TeChNoWC
absta101
(0) -
Elmo Teh AzN
(0) -
IceGuy
(L-6) -
Elmo Teh AzN
Not Voting:
Humble Poirot
,
Thomith
UberNinja
replaces
UnofficialRulerofEveryone
. Thanks!
IceGuy
replaces
MormonCoffee
. Thank you!
Here's where things get interesting. Check out the SensFan wagon.
In post 325, snifit wrote:Votecount 1.9
roflcopter
(0) -
Arugula
(0) -
TeChNoWC
(L-5) -
roflcopter
,
IceGuy
Thomith
(0) -
Junpei
(0) -
Seacore
(L-6) -
SensFan
UberNinja
(0) -
DTMaster
(0) -
Humble Poirot
(0) -
SensFan
(L-1) -
DTMaster
,
Seacore
,
absta101
,
Arugula
,
Junpei
,
TeChNoWC
absta101
(0) -
Elmo Teh AzN
(0) -
IceGuy
(L-6) -
Elmo Teh AzN
Not Voting:
Humble Poirot
,
Thomith
,
UberNinja
In post 378, snifit wrote:Votecount 1.9
roflcopter
(0) -
Arugula
(0) -
TeChNoWC
(L-5) -
roflcopter
,
IceGuy
Thomith
(0) -
Junpei
(0) -
Seacore
(L-6) -
SensFan
UberNinja
(0) -
DTMaster
(0) -
Humble Poirot
(0) -
SensFan
(L-1) -
Seacore
,
absta101
,
Arugula
,
Junpei
,
TeChNoWC
,
UberNinja
absta101
(0) -
Elmo Teh AzN
(0) -
IceGuy
(L-6) -
Elmo Teh AzN
Not Voting:
Humble Poirot
,
Thomith
,
DTMaster
In post 423, snifit wrote:Votecount 1.10
roflcopter
(0) -
Arugula
(0) -
TeChNoWC
(L-6) -
IceGuy
Thomith
(0) -
Junpei
(0) -
Seacore
(L-6) -
SensFan
UberNinja
(0) -
DTMaster
(0) -
Humble Poirot
(0) -
SensFan
(L) -
Seacore
,
absta101
,
Arugula
,
Junpei
,
TeChNoWC
,
Humble Poirot
,
roflcopter
absta101
(L-6) -
UberNinja
Elmo Teh AzN
(0) -
IceGuy
(L-6) -
Elmo Teh AzN
Not Voting:
Thomith
,
DTMaster
And here is where I am at 100% suspension of disbelief. I am incredulous.
HOW THE FUCK DID THIS WAGON STAY
EXCEPT ARUGULA?
Yeah, SensFan deserved it. But still. Shit, I just can't believe that this was an all-town wagon.
And I wasn't even on this wagon, so there'll be NO bitching that I colored myself green, either.
In post 426, snifit wrote:Votecount 2.1
Not Voting:
roflcopter
,
Arugula
,
TeChNoWC
,
Thomith
,
Junpei
,
Seacore
,
UberNinja
,
DTMaster
,
Humble Poirot
,
absta101
,
ElmoTehAzN
,
IceGuy
In post 475, snifit wrote:Votecount 2.2
Seacore
roflcopter
UberNinja
,
ElmoTehAzN
,
IceGuy
,
Arugula
Junpei
Not Voting:
TeChNoWC
,
Thomith
,
DTMaster
,
Humble Poirot
,
absta101
Vote not counted as it is ambiguous who you intended to vote for.
In post 506, snifit wrote:Votecount 2.3
Thomith
Seacore
ElmoTehAzN
UberNinja
,
IceGuy
Junpei
,
roflcopter
,
Arugula
Not Voting:
TeChNoWC
,
DTMaster
,
Humble Poirot
,
absta101
In post 556, snifit wrote:Votecount 2.4
Thomith
Seacore
ElmoTehAzN
UberNinja
,
IceGuy
Junpei
,
roflcopter
,
Arugula
,
Humble Poirot
,
absta101
Not Voting:
TeChNoWC
,
DTMaster
In post 576, snifit wrote:Votecount 2.5
UberNinja
,
IceGuy
,
ElmoTehAzN
,
Thomith
L-1
) -
Junpei
,
roflcopter
,
Arugula
,
Humble Poirot
,
absta101
,
Seacore
Not Voting:
TeChNoWC
,
DTMaster
In post 587, snifit wrote:Votecount 2.6
UberNinja
,
IceGuy
,
ElmoTehAzN
,
Thomith
L
) -
Junpei
,
roflcopter
,
Arugula
,
Humble Poirot
,
absta101
,
Seacore
,
TeChNoWC
Not Voting:
DTMaster
I also find it extremely hard to believe that there was a 100% town wagon on scum. No bussers? WTF.
On the other hand, looking at the absta counterwagon, Elmo (and myself) don't look so great either, since that was before Junpei had noticed the Seacore crumb, and there was not much reason to bus your buddy at that point; absta101 could just as easily have been lynched as IceGuy imo.
Going back up to 506/556, Elmo gets a slight bit of town cred for changing wagons to me... but then he switches back to the absta101 wagon with me before the day is over, instead of bussing IceGuy (if he's scum it'd be bussing, if he's town it wouldn't be. obviously). And Arugula does get town points for being on the IceGuy wagon at a point where IceGuy wasn't the only lynch possibility (if he'd have been on the DTMaster wagon, that'd be useless, because DTMaster's lynch was a foregone conclusion after Junpei noticing Seacore's crumbs). So that brings them back to decently even, at least in terms of pure VC analysis.
All of this is making my head hurt. I can't tell which of them it is, but I'm still leaning Arugula based on posts. I'll probably have to ISO scum again, and then also ISO both Elmo and Arugula again.
In post 591, snifit wrote:Votecount 3.1
Not Voting:
roflcopter
,
Arugula
,
Thomith
,
Junpei
,
UberNinja
,
DTMaster
,
Humble Poirot
,
Elmo Teh AzN
In post 634, snifit wrote:Votecount 3.2
Elmo Teh AzN
Junpei
,
Arugula
,
Thomith
Not Voting:
roflcopter
,
UberNinja
,
DTMaster
,
Humble Poirot
Hello, what have we here? Arugula is on the DTMaster wagon, but Elmo is NOT? Like I just said above, Arugula gets no points for being on the wagon, but why the hell is Elmo still voting me at this point? Gonna go check, h/o...
Hmmm... Elmo's reasons for voting me above DTMaster don't sound real at all. Also, it looks like Thomith is onto something with his constant accusations of Elmo being the final scum. Hmmm... this is throwing a wrench into my Arugula scum read. And this whole situation is all fucked up. The summary for this post is going to be a fuckin doozy, let me tell you.
In post 687, snifit wrote:Votecount 3.3
Elmo Teh AzN
L
) -
Junpei
,
Arugula
,
Thomith
,
roflcopter
,
DTMaster
Not Voting:
UberNinja
,
Humble Poirot
In post 690, snifit wrote:Votecount 4.1
Not Voting:
roflcopter
,
Arugula
,
Thomith
,
UberNinja
,
Humble Poirot
,
Elmo Teh AzN
In post 706, snifit wrote:Votecount 4.1
roflcopter
Thomith
,
UberNinja
Not Voting:
Arugula
,
Humble Poirot
,
Elmo Teh AzN
UberNinja
has declared V/LA until the 20th.
In post 727, snifit wrote:Votecount 4.2
L
) -
roflcopter
,
Arugula
,
Elmo Teh AzN
,
UberNinja
Thomith
Not Voting:
Humble Poirot
UberNinja
has declared V/LA until the 20th.
Damn. I can't tell much from here. Gonna go read each one's reasons for their votes on Thomith.
As for me, my vote looks scummy as fuck obviously, but it's the losing play as scum because of how much suspicion it throws on me. To be honest I only threw it because a) I was on V/LA and didn't give a fuck (and didn't realize the game was so close to over because I wasn't paying attention), and b) I wanted to be left alive longer, which looking scummy allows me to do, because it helps me avoid the night kill.
Either way, I'm glad Humble Poirot was killed, because I can't read him for shit. I'll have to check who besides me he suspected, because he seemed to be one of the main proponents for my lynch today and that doesn't make sense to NK him if you're looking for someone who's a good idea to kill. If anything, you should kill off roflcopter because he's FUCKING CONFIRMED TOWN.
Which is another thing I'm 100% WTF about. If that's some sort of role shenanigans where the scum have a 1-shot Publish ability or w/e where they're allowed to give the mod something to write in a post, and they chose to make him write that roflcopter was an Innocent Child, then I'm going to be fucking pissed that I actually put effort into this game. And I'm
never
going to play another snifit game.
Anyway, that last part is pure conjecture, so let's wrap this up...
In post 730, snifit wrote:Votecount 5.1
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting:
roflcopter
,
Arugula
,
UberNinja
,
Elmo Teh AzN
UberNinja
has declared V/LA until the 20th.
Alright, here's what we
know
.
1. First and foremost, Roflcopter is a confirmed town Innocent Child. That leaves me, Elmo, and Arugula. I know I'm town, so in my eyes, that leaves Elmo and Arugula.
2. Arugula was on the SensFan wagon, the IceGuy wagon, the DTMaster wagon, and the Thomith wagon. In other words, ALL of the wagons that made lynches.
3. Elmo Teh AzN was off the SensFan wagon, off the IceGuy wagon, off the DTMaster wagon, and on the Thomith wagon. Only one of the wagons that made lynches.
4. Scum made a point to kill derptown absta101 on Night 2. Why? I have no idea. Maybe it was just a really derpy kill.
5. Scum killed off Humble Poirot last night instead of killing CONFIRMED TOWN ROFLCOPTER. Even more than the N2 absta101 kill, that's either deliberately engineered to rub town's faces in shit, OR it's another derpkill.
1. We saw what looked like a derpkill N2, and what looked like another one on N4. The Junpei N3 one was pretty expected, so that doesn't count. The only other possibility is that scum knew town was hopelessly lost after being all town on SensFan's wagon (this sentence supposes Elmo-scum over Arugula-scum) and decided they could just play with us, like a cat with a mouse, batting it back and forth like a tennis ball, before it eats it. The mouse, not the tennis ball. So I'm confused whether it truly was derpkills, or whether it was just really fucking cheeky scum.
2. Elmo was off both scum lynches, and Arugula was on both. My logic tells me that this means Elmo is scum, but my heart and my gut tells me that this means Arugula is scum. I want to know what roflcopter thinks of this, and I also want Elmo to explain why he was on neither scum wagon, ESPECIALLY after the seemingly incontrovertible evidence provided by Junpei as to why DTMaster was scum, based on Seacore's breadcrumbs.
3. I am considering whether it would be better to no-lynch at this point, or if that would be useless. If it appears I'm going to be the lynch for today, and believe me, I don't blame you guys for wanting it, based on my play thus far (though I would say it's too stupid/scummy to be scum, honestly), then I think a no-lynch is better. Here's why: With the night kill (assuming it's compulsive/compulsory/whatever), that'd leaves 3 alive instead of 4, and that's just a better chance to hit scum by anyone's measure.
Pros: There's a smaller number of townies, and if Roflcopter is not killed, the game becomes broken for town.
Cons: Roflcopter is probably just gonna die, leaving me/us right back here, choosing between Elmo and Arugula.
Weighing that around in my head, I realize that it's probably pretty fuckin' useless to no-lynch. Whereas if roflcopter was not confirmed town I would 100% be insistent upon no-lynching at this point.
4. So that means the best course of action is for me to convince roflcopter somehow that I'm not the remaining scum, and just lynch to kill the final scum. Which I'm fine with. At the start of this day, I had no idea who to suspect. Roflcopter was among my list of suspects, along with even a few dead people (yes, I really hadn't been paying attention). After that, I began to suspect Arugula a lot, mostly because of the posts made at the end of Day 4, and because it seemed like Elmo wasn't town because of posts I'd read from the scum. I thought roflcopter was stupid for saying he wouldn't lynch Arugula.
Now though, after having read the game, done the VCA, and thought my position through, I'm undecided. Since roflcopter has been paying much more attention to the game than I have throughout it's duration, normally in this situation I would simply defer to his judgement at this point, EXCEPT:
5. The only reason to leave town-roflcopter alive in a 4p MYLO situation is if you're 100% sure he'll vote the way you want, or at least not vote for you. So I'll need to go read roflcopter and Humble Poirot, and come back again in a few minutes.