Mini 1569: The Golden Cookie Heist! -End-

[Kalimar]

Vote Count 3.5

HearTheLightning (2): Elyse, bjc


Not Voting:

HearTheLightning, geraintm, Slandaar, sthar8, My Milked Eek

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With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-06-09 05:12:48)

[sthar8]

Well sthar continues to be exactly as rude as usual. On a completely out of game note it is perfectly respectable for someone to want to sub out after a five day interim where they are unable to view the thread. It's a huge momentum killer. Sorry about the inconvenience, wake.

Perfectly fine for them to want to. But when you sign up for a game, that's a commitment to the mod and the other players. Replacing out because "I don't feeeel like it" or "it's inconvenient" is a huge "fuck you" to all those people, and an especially large insult to someone like Eek, who was forced to replace for a legitimate reason.

Wake has repeatedly impressed upon me his willingness to let his arrogance and selfishness negatively impact others. He gets no sympathy here.

Sthar's continued attitude concerning OOG content is only proving to be that this demeanor is just how he is, so my read on him is continually shifting townward.

Expected proficiency is one of my favorite scumhunting methods and I get cranky when it can't be accurately applied. Similarly, apathetic and lazy town piss me off. Hopefully we can play sometime where you can see my jolly happy side. I'd suggest a game where I'm in the Lying Cat hydra; Jingle tends to temper me quite effectively.

All that aside, this quote is a MASSIVE red flag. There are very few reasons for anyone but bj to townread me right now, and given the end of day circumstances yesterday I should be pretty high on

somebody's

list. Can you explain your process here a little more?

Having just had 2 scum go down in quick succession, I can see the last scum getting dispirited and wanting to leave the game. That is why I could make a meta case for voting your slot.

no.

Spoiler:

eek i missed you. welcome back <3

I feel good about elyse and eek right now. I'd also rather lynch HTL than ger, especially given SM's iso.

Slaan, can you elaborate on why you think SM's play clears you? Not saying I disagree, I just want to see your process.

[bjc]

can we vote htl

[sthar8]

Sure.

VOTE: HTL

[bjc]

One more god please make it happen.

[sthar8]

L-1, claim time.

[HearTheLightning]

Odd-Day Role Cop

N1 I found Slainte to be vanilla

[bjc]

So do we kill it? Y/n?

[bjc]

I don't believe you. Why would you be all sacrificial and willing to be lynched as a PR?

[Elyse]

What is your exact role in your PM

[bjc]

Y'all know I'm shooting Ger tonight if HtL flips town in all likelihood.

[geraintm]

Bjc, you think it is likely he'll be town, but you are happy to lynch him.

What is your plan tomorrow when both me and HTL turn up town.

I want all of you who are happy to lynch HTl and then let bjc shoot me explain to me exactly what you are going to do tomorrow when you are down two townies.

Also, as I am effectively at L-1 because of bjc's stated intent to shoot me, I am claiming too.
I am vanilla town.

[sthar8]

HTL crumbs? Any reason I should believe you?

[HearTheLightning]

I don't believe you. Why would you be all sacrificial and willing to be lynched as a PR?

Yet again- I haven't been, but it has been made very clear to me that both myself and Ger are dying in this D/N phase. I have had far too many personal issues over these last two in-game days to be able to provide well structured reasons as to why I am town, so it is simply easier for me to posture the town in such a way that the lynch/NK are done in the way which benefits town most.

What is your exact role in your PM

Town Odd-Night Role Cop, as I nearly said paraphrasing.

HTL crumbs? Any reason I should believe you?

I don't drop crumbs. It's incredibly easy for a scum player to posture themselves in expectation of claiming as one or even several roles, and hiding "hints" in numerous posts- they prove next to nothing. I find that upon review of my posts that I should be found to be a player who played very much so a "control" game where I was more preoccupied with appearing midrange-ish as a not super-town, but not incredibly scummy. Unfortunately, the only gameplay that I can link my behavior to is the Slainte check N1. The fact that upon the later days of D1, I began including SM in my lynchable selection should in itself provide a small amount of verification. My reasoning was that he seemed to be playing like either a mafia role blocker or doctor. In my opinion a lot of his analysis looked slightly PR oriented. I was, however, wrong, and having found him vanilla, I found it easier to believe him to be vanilla town than vanilla scum. That's also why I dropped my suspicion of him D2.

Otherwise, I find myself to have played a relatively decent game. I was incredibly lazy D2 and D3, but I think I have ample excuse for it, which is neither her nor there in terms of relevance to this specific game. That being said, I'm also vaguely martyring myself because I have at most one more check, and it runs vanilla on goons, so I don't even consider myself much of a "PR" at this point.

[Slandaar]

Will get round to this in a bit

[My Milked Eek]

This makes no sense. Why didn't you claim from as soon it was clear you wouldn't make it to d4?

[HearTheLightning]

Early claiming generally is viewed incredibly negatively.

[Elyse]

If anyone else is a PR, claim.

Otherwise I would rather not lynch HTL today.

UNVOTE: HTL
VOTE: Slandaar

[My Milked Eek]

You're supposedly an odd night cop. On the day before an odd night you're up for lynch/nightkill and you don't say anything until 1-2 days before deadline. Screw "generally accepted play", you wasted our time.

[bjc]

Lawd figure this crap out I wanna win the game.

[sthar8]

I don't drop crumbs. It's incredibly easy for a scum player to posture themselves in expectation of claiming as one or even several roles, and hiding "hints" in numerous posts- they prove next to nothing.

This can be technically referred to as "actually just wrong," especially given that you're claiming a weak investigative. You seriously have a result that you didn't claim, and didn't even hint at it in case of your death? This whole thing smells like a pungent mix of bullshit and convenience claims.

However, I'm willing to accept that you might just be a VI since we can solve this.

UNVOTE:

My role means that I cannot die tonight. Target me, then in your first post of the day tell us all my role name and rider. That will at least confirm your ability, which goes a long way toward helping your cause.

Nobody else should claim their rolename today.

I think I'm ok with {slaan, ger} as our deaths tonight. I'll vote as soon as the town agrees to my PR plan above.

[bjc]

Sounds great, let's get this crap moving.

[geraintm]

I like that sthar has a plan for tomorrow. It is what I asked when HTl got so close to being lynched.

vote slandaar

[Slandaar]

Alright I will read this now.

Ger why are you voting me?

[bjc]

vote: slandaar

moddafocker you are at L-1, do something or die.