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Post Post #8275 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:03 am

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Time raveler has the card advantage/tempo of oblivion ring or vindicate albeit in bounce style, but randomly also Kitesail Freebooters all your opponent's countermagic too.
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Post Post #8276 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:21 am

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In post 8272, Ythan wrote:potential
kind of a funny word to use it's been absurdly good in every format it's been legal in
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Post Post #8277 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:40 am

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It would be an understatement to say I'm out of the loop on the current meta.
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Post Post #8278 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:41 am

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I was out of the loop when I did actively play lol.
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Post Post #8279 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:21 am

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I've also gotten more involved with different card games other than Magic so that might have helped my feeling towards magic.
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Post Post #8280 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:27 pm

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yeah i immediately saw the irony in Ythan saying that and also knew well enough that Ythan wasn't trying to be ironic and just was reading the oracle text for the card and hasn't played in a while.
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Post Post #8281 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:18 pm

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i've been enjoying historic brawl lately, i like that i don't know the meta

building around commanders is also a lot of fun

i play some commander but i enjoy multiplayer less
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Post Post #8282 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:36 pm

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In post 8281, Infinity 324 wrote:i've been enjoying historic brawl lately, i like that i don't know the meta
Thought this was about Smash for a second.
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Post Post #8283 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:59 pm

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my first experience playing multiplayer (not counting high school) involved people explaining to me that we were playing a 5 player mode where each person tries to kill 2 players who are like their bounty targets, and the first play to complete that task is the sole winner, and I cast a red sweeper that killed 1 of my creatures, none of my bounty player's creatures, and 5 creatures of a player who was on the verge of eliminating both of his bounty targets, and he was furious at me for playing the game wrong.

my second experience playing multiplayer I doom bladed some legendary creature that would obviously snowball, and that player had 1 white mana up, and casted silence and insisted it countered the doom blade, caring more about a consensus of two players who had played it that way before more than my dry encyclopedic explanation of the definition of casting a spell.
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Post Post #8284 (ISO) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:47 am

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yeah it's definitely dependent on the people you're playing with, even with a good playgroup it's too often kingmaker-y for me.

one deck that i've played against a couple times in historic brawl is illuna which has omniscience as the only permanent in their deck so they basically win if they resolve their commander. i'm empty handed with a ghostly pilferer in play and 5 mana open, and op casts illuna. i draw silundi vision and find a counter spell. the next time they cast their commander i responded with mystic subdual on the thing they mutated onto. that felt pretty good
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Post Post #8285 (ISO) » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:36 pm

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you're so rude
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Post Post #8286 (ISO) » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:12 am

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have just learned of alchemy so am reinstalling arena with hopes of outer limiting for next few days

guess i should not get hopes too high

but! also

there is a chance they try to continuously balance this format and update cards every two weeks so!
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Post Post #8287 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:45 am

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I def do not have time for arena :/
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Post Post #8288 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:34 am

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In post 8287, Isis wrote:I def do not have time for arena :/
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Post Post #8289 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:12 am

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In post 8286, shiki wrote:have just learned of alchemy so am reinstalling arena with hopes of outer limiting for next few days

guess i should not get hopes too high

but! also

there is a chance they try to continuously balance this format and update cards every two weeks so!
yeah i hope so

but like, i believe the best deck in standard is currently even better in alchemy

so, not off to a great start

have you drafted before? i feel like you would like draft
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Post Post #8290 (ISO) » Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:41 pm

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In post 8289, Infinity 324 wrote:yeah i hope so

but like, i believe the best deck in standard is currently even better in alchemy

so, not off to a great start

have you drafted before? i feel like you would like draft
the telling thing will be whether or not there are any changes to cards next patch

and it will take me approximately that long to grind enough wild cards to play anyway

or at least to play what i would like to (very likely birgi/vadrik {as i would like to apply my dominion brain as much as possible and! birgi is pretty much the only magic card i like})

draft is difficult for me because i need an attachment to something to keep me engaged with it and because of the nature of draft it would have to be a common which wouldn't be impossible for me to develop simply that i have not previously though i've never attempted to be a dedicated limited player due to cost among other things

though your feeling isn't far off because what appeals to me most is building or at least building for the cards i want to play

as the actual playing becomes fairly rote once i learn the format and hone deck to reasonable state

and my halflife for the game has been quite short most likely for this reason

which is why i hope for frequent adjustments here but that may not be their intention it is very hard for me to tell
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Post Post #8291 (ISO) » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:47 am

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Shiki you play dominion?
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Post Post #8292 (ISO) » Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:25 am

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life // death is such a strange card. one half is pretty much just a downside, and the other half is a strong reanimation spell that's not quite good enough to see play anywhere. it's not legal in modern (and i'm wondering if it would see play as persist 5-6 in the reanimator decks), and in legacy there are just better options. in edh the higher-powered decks have better options, and budget players are unlikely to know of its existence.
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Post Post #8293 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:27 pm

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Life seems like part of some combo that doesn't exist. Life + "each player sacrifices all no creature permanents" or mass polymorph priced at a nonmeme cmc
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Post Post #8294 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:55 pm

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"in response, I'd like to cast an overloaded electrickery"
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Post Post #8295 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:56 pm

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In post 8294, Infinity 324 wrote:in response
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Post Post #8296 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:59 pm

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I'm responding to the mass polymorph thing in this case
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Post Post #8297 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:15 pm

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I know I just generally interpret "in response" with an instant to mean above on the stack.
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Post Post #8298 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:21 pm

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In post 8291, Isis wrote:Shiki you play dominion?
played would be more accurate than play, but yeah
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