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Post Post #8425 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 2:55 am

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yume is an alt too

altception o_o
i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess

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Post Post #8426 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 2:57 am

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shiqf was getting lynched whether you bussed or not

i was not letting jj die
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Post Post #8427 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 3:09 am

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channged my avi for memes
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Post Post #8428 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 3:17 am

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Yume alt infestation!
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Post Post #8429 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 3:19 am

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Inky, Blinky, Chinky, Tommy, Timmy, Charlie and Granny for 2018.......
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Post Post #8430 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 3:25 am

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tommy is already taken

he was a scum partner of mine in one game
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Post Post #8431 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 3:26 am

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tommy was my fave
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Post Post #8432 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 3:27 am

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In post 8426, Transcend wrote:shiqf was getting lynched whether you bussed or not

i was not letting jj die
if he came back and posted, which he did, people don't like to lynch newbies. play that up. use it for a sympathy lynch elsewhere. he might've been lynched d2 or d3 but def not d1
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Post Post #8433 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 3:31 am

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jj can i scumread titus?
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Post Post #8434 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 3:50 am

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Well done town and props to JJ, fucking obv-towned it from day one.

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Post Post #8435 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 4:02 am

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Bella you're great too <3
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Post Post #8436 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 4:09 am

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In post 8402, Cheetory6 wrote:About time you grew a backbone.
woah man

you need to take a timeout to think about ur unecessary hostility here
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Post Post #8437 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 4:10 am

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In post 8398, Aelita wrote:Nebby is love. Nebby is life. Nebby is the King.
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Post Post #8438 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 4:45 am

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This game sort of had to be swingy.
The variance between having town active / scum passive in bonds vs town passive / scum active in bonds is massive.
On top of that scum were intentionally given some very strong investigative roles so it wouldn't be difficult to convince town to go passive if they somewhat townread you.

It's notable that scum did not have a roleblocker except potentially one mass roleblock besides for Yume's role: but even that was meant to be deceptive because it triggers at the middle of the night rather than end of night, which could easily be setup specced as being a normal role rather than an active role and start a goose chase.

I designed the game to make it as easy as possible for scum to get townread and dominate the night actions and quickly figure out which slots do what and make the correct nightkills and shut down town's night actions without actually giving them a lot of hard power. On the flipside, if scum are generally scumread on their play they're not going to be doing anything and that will make it very hard for them. The way the game played out, Shiqf died instantly, Dunnstral was leashed, Aelita wasn't allowed to use her ability, and EddieByte never went active. So I'm sure the endgame felt incredibly oppressive and it was considering Random/Alisae's role pms were intentionally written to get them to TR each other and Firebringer's note was meant to clear them both and bringing them both to endgame was horribly dangerous but I don't think that was due to game balance as much as it was due to scum failing the acid test of getting townread and never really having the chance to eliminate the masons.

Both breaking strategies were foreseen from the outset but given the gap between properly utilizing them and not using any of them I think it was perfectly fair to have town have several super powerful combinations if they trust all the pieces in the puzzle: and both were breakable. Alisae being shot disabled Random, Transcend has to be kept alive to cash in on Titus's checks or it has to rely on a scum reporting the results. There was also one other profoundly powerful breaking strategy but it was based off of correct interpretation of Firebringer's results which were intentionally impossible to decipher at a level that you would plan around that.
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Post Post #8439 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 5:01 am

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In post 8369, jjh927 wrote:And yeah, as far as bonds were concerned, Eddiebyte has my sympathy, Dunn got hard-leashed, shiqf was bussed and Aelita was passive except for the 1 night where she did what Titus told her to. Scum pretty much had no night actions they really owned.
I think Dunn would have gotten lynched if I hadn't leashed him. So I think that helped. Just why not shoot me? It frees Dunn?
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Post Post #8440 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 5:05 am

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Because we needed you to shield me from suspicion, I think?
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Post Post #8441 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 5:07 am

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Slash underscore o underscore slash
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Post Post #8442 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 5:12 am

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In post 8436, Gammagooey wrote:woah man

you need to take a timeout to think about ur unecessary hostility here
It was necessary.
Firebringer was reporting me.
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Post Post #8443 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 5:45 am

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In post 8440, Aelita wrote:Because we needed you to shield me from suspicion, I think?
titus was leashing dunn which stalled his bus, could discredit her postflip, and was townreading me or at least willing to work with
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Post Post #8444 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 7:28 am

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In post 8433, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:jj can i scumread titus?
would not recommend
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Post Post #8445 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 9:11 am

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vec we have a 100% win record together as town right?
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Post Post #8446 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 10:19 am

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I still don't understand the point about me asking to scumread Titus but something about it has to go on my sig lmao
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Post Post #8447 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 10:22 am

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i dont understand it either tbh
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Post Post #8448 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 11:05 am

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great we won

no thanks to me

gg i guess
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Post Post #8449 (ISO) » Mon May 22, 2017 11:40 am

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In post 8445, Randomnamechange wrote:vec we have a 100% win record together as town right?
i think you were in deathnote, no?

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