Mini 1618: Profia (Game Over)

[bruin228]

Thanks for the answer.

Yeah, it's either Beli or you, I'm just trying to figure out which.

[bruin228]

Thanks for the answer.

Yeah, it's either Beli or

you

Madonna, I'm just trying to figure out which.

[SleepyKrew]

Hey Lynx during the self-vote argument, you called out Tosh for wasting time and space discussing theory, but didn't call out acroyon for the same. Why not?

[SleepyKrew]

even I know five players do not fit into two slots

This was regarding you having 5 scumreads
Why only two slots? Hmmmmmmm

[SleepyKrew]

This is a Mini Normal, and I assume that means we have two mafia, maybe three if we are lucky.

Why do you think two is the usual?

[Madonna]

@bruin, 876: That is one hell of a correction.

@SleepyKrew, 878 & 879: This is my third game here; I was approximating by the number of players. I do not know what is usual/unusual.

If we are going to pretend Madonna knows what is up by theorizing two scum slots initially and by Day 4 be working under a three scum slot assumption (and saying that is fishy), the reason for the change of heart could be because others pushed that idea (768 & 779) and so if that is what I have to work with to work with town, so be it.

[SleepyKrew]

If a 9p Newbie has 2 scum, wouldn't you expect a 13p Mini to have 3? Assuming there were still 2 scum is odd.

[Madonna]

@Belisarius, 867: This is meta stuff in 867 to which I do not subscribe because other games' outcomes do not affect this game. Tactics, maybe, but unless you are pointing out a specific play and where this game's players are doing the analogue to said specific play, this is all bullshit, especially concern about who is responsible for losing. I am sure the dead thread has plenty of nominations for who sucks here, but all of this is for the after-party, not today.

@Belisarius, 868: Later you can claim you are absolved of all guilt since you handed off responsibility for your vote, wow. This, to me, is the equivalent to handing your job to think over to a RNG.

[Madonna]

@Lynx, 872: Despite Belisarius saying his vote was yours, I do not think you can vote on his behalf, so it is essentially an empty gesture unless he shows up to follow your suit. I mean, we will see come a vote count, but this could be a ploy for a No Lynch if he does not show up and we are a vote short somewhere.

[Madonna]

@SleepyKrew, 881: No, SleepyKrew. Again, I do not know what is familiar anywhere here since I am unfamiliar.

What I do know is that looking for a third man after getting the first two is easier than scrambling for three when there are only two; this was the main reason for my initial estimate. If you start too low, you only need to go up. Start high, and your perspective is ruined from the beginning.

Also, this:

Greetings, townsmen and townswomen! I am your humble moderator for this edition of a Mini Normal Mafia Game. Please familiarize yourself with my rules ahead of time, 'spoilered' below. I will, however, highlight a few things:

1. This game has NOT been approved for balance. Please join at your own risk.

To me, this could mean a million things, and it could apply to roles, number of/in factions, whatever.

[SleepyKrew]

Probably just one partner in a 10 player game with a possible SK.

But it's a 13 player game
Sigh
Right now I'm leaning voting Lynx

[SleepyKrew]

Are you saying that seeing the game might not be balanced supported your two Mafia theory?

[SleepyKrew]

Oh also Madonna, why did Lynx being a Neighborizer make you unvote him?

[SleepyKrew]

As for who we should pursue today, those 5 are decent. I'd remove Lynx and Belisarius for now though. Lynx claimed Neighborizer and Belisarius backed that up. If they were both scum, that'd be suicide. I'd also take Belisarius off the list for now for getting town to go after lurkers and at least doing something.

Top 3 for me would be evil, acryon, and Toshibite.

This doesn't give a reason to remove Lynx by himself

[SleepyKrew]

I thought about it. I'm in.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: dragonspawn

Was this explained? I'll find out!

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: Lynx
A no lynch isn't really the worst thing in the world if it's 3v1v1

[Madonna]

Are you saying that seeing the game might not be balanced supported your two Mafia theory?

Yes, but also that it is far more sensible to look for two scum before you start counting on a third.

Yes, I unvoted Lynx because of his Neighborizer claim. It has caused me great distress.

I do not think "it" was explained.

[SleepyKrew]

UNVOTE:
Why would the game not being balanced make you think two Maf, if you thought two was the usual?
Plus you're "look for two before three" argument is just dumb.
You didn't explain why Lynx's claim made you unvote.

[Madonna]

Two is/was safe, not usual/unusual. I prefer to think safely, not extravagantly.

Your arguments are dumb.

I accepted that a Neighborizer could be town.

[SleepyKrew]

That doesn't explain the unvote. Could be isn't likely isn't is.

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: Madonna
So looks like a NL it is

[Belisarius]

@Lynx, 872: Despite Belisarius saying his vote was yours, I do not think you can vote on his behalf

No, he can't, but I can.

This wasn't asked for, but it was implied and I *do* think a NL is a pretty bad idea.

VOTE: bruin

I thought about it. I'm in.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: dragonspawn

Was this explained? I'll find out!

Did it need explaining? Did you read my 715?

Madonna talked me into changing from Toshibite to dragonspawn.

[SleepyKrew]

Madonna talked me into changing from Toshibite to dragonspawn.

That's not really clear from "I thought about it", but whatever.

[SleepyKrew]

I saw that, Tierce

[SleepyKrew]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: bruin