Micro 611: House of Cards Season 1 [GAME OVER]

[shannon]

OK what just happened? Did scum forget a NK or something?

[SirCakez]

They attacked me likely
Expe you have 48 hours to convince me your quickhammer on Ceph was from town before I vote your ass out

[Expedience]

Sry for making the wrong choice Cakez idfk what you want

I think it has to be chilledtea.

[shannon]

Aren't we meant to not vote anyone if there's four of us, because getting it wrong means scum win? Or is this different because of how it has happened? (If anyone would like to step in to their IC shoes and explain the finer points of this to me, please do).

[Expedience]

If we NL then cakez will just die probably. We already know that he's town so I don't see how that would help us.

[chilledtea]

Expede, what changed your mind on shannon to such an extent that I am scum and she is not?

[Expedience]

Realizing that shannon was probably town and that I was clearing you stupidly.

Who do you think is scum?

[chilledtea]

It's between you and shannon, probably you I think.

I find it interesting that scum choose to hit cakez. Either that or they forgot to hit anyone.

[shannon]

Is there any way of telling whether it was forgetfulness or whether they hit Cakez? Because that could help us decide what to do today I think.

If indeed scum did hit Cakez then you're right, it's very interesting. I'm not sure in what way yet, I am still trying to reconcile it all in my head. I really wish we knew whether Cakez was hit or whether it was forgetfulness. If Cakez was hit, that suggests someone will hit him again tomorrow night (else why bother), leaving Expe, you, and me, in 3P lylo. I can't immediately tell which one of you thought that this combo would benefit you. I can see that ScumCT could switch votes to TownExpe with me for the win, or that ScumExpe could get CT to vote me.

Expe if you're town (which I still seriously doubt) it's probably a good idea to start replying to Cakez's, 951.

[Expedience]

They attacked me likely
Expe you have 48 hours to convince me your quickhammer on Ceph was from town before I vote your ass out

Dear Sir Cakez,

If I'm scum then what is my trajectory, where is my scum role pm?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

If I was scum then I would have half as many posts probably and I would be even more disengaged. Like, I'm clearly incapable of feigning my indecision and development of my reads this convincingly. If I was scum then I would just be tunneling one person half-heartedly with short periods of fake enthusiasm which take an emotional toll on me.

You gave an extra vote to an impatient child and I'm not sure what you expected. I wanted Cephrir to be scum so the game ended, but he was town.

Now I will go on to highlight the awkward interactions between chilledtea and copper using the power of hindsight.

Yours in ;-;,
Expedience

[SirCakez]

It's not the Ceph vote that concerns so much as how you did it out of nowhere when some pressure started to come on to you and when I was trying to push Chilled through
Now I have to decide between you and Chilled which is :/

[Expedience]

@Chilled
Why are you so much less engaged in this game compared to the newbie I replaced into?

This is actually a very good question.

There are several reasons for this :

1) Before the site went down, my internet had issues. Because of which I couldn't post for a day and half.

2) Then the site went down.

3) Regardless of these reasons, I find myself more and more apathetic on day 1 for some reason that I don't know myself. The game I played with anti is one of the only one I know that I played enthusiastically from the start. And even there I was bored during rvs and a bit after that.

In that newbie game you replaced into, I replaced into on day 2.

Anyway, I will try to put more effort into this.

Overly eager (especially bolded section) to interact with copper and it generally feels like copper goes out of his way to question chilledtea. Copper has resolved to distance from chilledtea from a very early stage and switches to a full bus after chilledtea accidentally quickhammers.

Shos's reaction doesn't feel like scum reaction.

Copper feels town. Exp is null-ish.

I want to see anti respond to exp.

Nah don't think anti has given up. Might have taken a small break from this game.

Copper what do you think regarding shos's reaction to L-1?

Continuing to scumhunt a claimed townread as if to keep up the back-and-forth.

He chose copper out of all possible players to ask a relatively meanignless question. If he actually meant to townintend to "get copper's viewpoint to improve his own", that's actually even worse because the question is useless.

Copper, the reason why other people interfering hurts is it puts me on the defensive instead of attacking and I lose my focus. I didn't expect that response from shos and max.

Anyways, I think we should lynch anna because anna is the only compromise I agree with. When I said I think exp is the best lynch, I was thinking more along the lines of if anna is town exp could be scum. I wanted to see how he would react to it, he is town reading me as well.

Anna sheeping me was bad btw and I think I've already said as much. I would have liked some more input from antihero though. Oh well.

UNVOTE: Expedience

VOTE : annadog40

This in context is jumpy and you can clearly see the preflip knowledge he is setting up to frame me with Anna (and he opens with a vote on me tomorrow).

Logic doesn't make sense either, he's just waffling.

I remember acknowledging this but wanting to ignore it earlier because I just couldn't townread anyone.

This is a very specific question and I am not sure about this, but it was probably because of me looking at possible associations - I went back and looked at mod's latest post and realized that two more people voted anna when she was L-2, and thought she got lynched.

One possibility is that your buddy told you you had hammered and that was a panic reaction post, I can't escape the feeling it was made in preparation of an Anna town flip.

I see thought that some of you don't agree with me on chilled, if we don't reach a consensus the way to go is Anna, maybe I'm just overestimating my fake hammer brainchild.

That is a very strange suspicion, that's all I will say. Not much I can do to rid you of that paranoia other than say that it is a very strict set of circumstance that you are assuming without much proof.

He can't think of anything to say, and since there's no real motive to think up a good answer because they both already know each other's alignments, he just gives this extremely weird & concilatory response and nobody really notices.

305 is a blatant scumpost and you can see that it's forced as fuck.

[SirCakez]

and this kind of stuff concerns me too
Why not push this yesterday when I was pushing quite hard to lynch CT?

[Expedience]

Because I thought he was town ;-;

[SirCakez]

[chilledtea]

Copper was scum reading shos when I asked him what he thought of shos reaction to L-1. That's the reason.

[Firebringer]

Vote Count 4.1

Not Voting: Chilledtea, Shannon, SirCakez, Expedience

With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Day Ends: (expired on 2016-07-23 22:00:00)

[shannon]

I don't want to get in the way of Cakez' questioning so I've just popped in to say that I am reading and I'll respond if anyone's asking me stuff. I'm still FOSing Expe at this point just for the record.

[SirCakez]

Expe weren't you pushing Shannon as scum yesterday?

[Expedience]

Expe weren't you pushing Shannon as scum yesterday?

Yes, I was.

I think she lied about her read because she wanted to remain consistent. I don't see scum motivation for it ultimately, and her response to my probing was indignant and town. My feelings of town on chilledtea have faded through his lack of presence and intent to solve the game. It's a trait that I've noticed in myself too as scum, I basically lose focus and stop trying to look town in the endgame because I just want it to be over. That's part of why I hammered Cephrir, 942 pushed me

over the edge

.

You can also consider how it makes no sense for me to call chilledtea town yesterday if I was scum, since most other people didn't really think he was town. I could've taken much easier paths to a win here if I was scum.

I also specifically remember thinking at one stage yesterday (while I was thinking that one of shannon or Cephrir were scum) that if I lynched Cephrir and he flipped town then if shannon was scum she would kill chilledtea, because she wasn't considering the possibility that scum would attack you. If only I can find that post. So the lack of NK points to chilledtea as well. I'm not going to pretend that that influenced my opinion though, because I think I had it worked out after Cephrir's flip (I read your post saying to lynch me tomorrow and I was all like "fuk its ct").

[Expedience]

If I am NKed please look at Expe closely tomorrow.


VOTE: Chilled Tea

Yeah, this. And I'm sure it happened before, she made the assumption that one of the VTs would die.

[shannon]

You're right, I did assume that one of us would be NKed. I don't get why scum would bring us to MYLO? (Did anyone else think that was likely?)

If we are wrong about Cakez having been hit, does that have any implication if we don't kill today? It just means it's 3P tomorrow and Cakez is one of the three, right? There's no advantage to scum if this is a fake out?

[SirCakez]

No lynching today is a bad idea, likely I'll just die.

It does make sense for you to call chilled town yesterday as scum, it's called saving a mislynch for MyLo (._. )
No scum would have attacked CT last night.....

[Expedience]

And I could've done that without making myself look inconsistent and terrible?

ofc because why would he kill himself

[Expedience]

You're right, I did assume that one of us would be NKed. I don't get why scum would bring us to MYLO? (Did anyone else think that was likely?)

If we are wrong about Cakez having been hit, does that have any implication if we don't kill today? It just means it's 3P tomorrow and Cakez is one of the three, right? There's no advantage to scum if this is a fake out?

It's 1-shot bulletproof, he was presumably hit once so the next time he'll die.

This is optimal play for scum in situations like this because it leaves an extra suspect for the scum to hide within.

You can expect that chilledtea knows enough what he's doing to attack SirCakez over one of the VTs.