Mini 559 - Cult Mafia again - Game over

[Xtoxm]

Plus, Norinel was one of the few that wanted to go after the CR yesterday rather than the mafiate.

[Battle Mage]

I think you are the CR and and Norinel is the Mafiate.

I could see either of dahen and Oman as a recruit I guess...But I think a MC will help.

...I'm starting to think dahen must be power townie...

Thats not an explanation. Thats a bunch of random opinions with no reasoning. Please. Give me something of substance to comment on.

[Xtoxm]

Um...Why are NOT the CR?

..? Lol...

[Battle Mage]

And I don't like the way you are saying people are confirmed to be stuff when their not.

I'm getting deja vu. Didnt we have this exact debate in another game?
Oh and wait...i remember now! I was right and you were wrong. You've already given your opinion of me in that game. A meta is there for a reason.

[Battle Mage]

no Mod ive met is cruel enough to give mafia a vig-style kill method.

You think i'd kill GW twice?

And be allowed to use both a additional mafia power role vig kill along with the normal kill?

No, thats why its ridiculous. I didnt say you were scum, i said your play felt scummy. But then, whats new?

BM

[Battle Mage]

Plus, Norinel was one of the few that wanted to go after the CR yesterday rather than the mafiate.

[sarcasm]yep because his only post today doesnt atall stink of trying to get rid of the mafia goon [/sarcasm]

That's actually quite important- two power roles, one mafia, and one CR only leaves one recruitable townie left. So the cult can't be bigger than two people;

still means that lynching the last mafia could be an instant lose, but it could be worse.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Um...Why are NOT the CR?

..? Lol...

Are you serious!?

[Xtoxm]

And I don't like the way you are saying people are confirmed to be stuff when their not.

I'm getting deja vu. Didnt we have this exact debate in another game?
Oh and wait...i remember now! I was right and you were wrong. You've already given your opinion of me in that game. A meta is there for a reason.

Yes, but you

were

confirmed there.

Norinel is not confirmed as CR here.

[Xtoxm]

Plus, Norinel was one of the few that wanted to go after the CR yesterday rather than the mafiate.

[sarcasm]yep because his only post today doesnt atall stink of trying to get rid of the mafia goon [/sarcasm]

That's actually quite important- two power roles, one mafia, and one CR only leaves one recruitable townie left. So the cult can't be bigger than two people;

still means that lynching the last mafia could be an instant lose, but it could be worse.

BM

No he's saying the exact opposite...

[Xtoxm]

Um...Why are NOT the CR?

..? Lol...

Are you serious!?

Well, why aren't you? What reasons are for me not to believe you are the CR, as you asked me for Norinel?

[Battle Mage]

Plus, Norinel was one of the few that wanted to go after the CR yesterday rather than the mafiate.

[sarcasm]yep because his only post today doesnt atall stink of trying to get rid of the mafia goon [/sarcasm]

That's actually quite important- two power roles, one mafia, and one CR only leaves one recruitable townie left. So the cult can't be bigger than two people;

still means that lynching the last mafia could be an instant lose, but it could be worse.

BM

No he's saying the exact opposite...

Can you not read?? 0.o

[Xtoxm]

no Mod ive met is cruel enough to give mafia a vig-style kill method.

You think i'd kill GW twice?

And be allowed to use both a additional mafia power role vig kill along with the normal kill?

No, thats why its ridiculous. I didnt say you were scum, i said your play felt scummy. But then, whats new?

BM

So if you always find me scummy, why do find it a problem here, and feel the need to bring it up?

[Battle Mage]

And I don't like the way you are saying people are confirmed to be stuff when their not.

I'm getting deja vu. Didnt we have this exact debate in another game?
Oh and wait...i remember now! I was right and you were wrong. You've already given your opinion of me in that game. A meta is there for a reason.

Yes, but you

were

confirmed there.

Norinel is not confirmed as CR here.

He's as confirmed CR here as i was confirmed innocent there. Neither case is 100%, but both are about as damn near certain as you can get. There's not a great deal of point me trying to explain this to you, but as soon as you've answered my original question, i'll re-go over the case on Norinel.

BM

[Xtoxm]

Plus, Norinel was one of the few that wanted to go after the CR yesterday rather than the mafiate.

[sarcasm]yep because his only post today doesnt atall stink of trying to get rid of the mafia goon [/sarcasm]

That's actually quite important- two power roles, one mafia, and one CR only leaves one recruitable townie left. So the cult can't be bigger than two people;

still means that lynching the last mafia could be an instant lose, but it could be worse.

BM

He's saying the last mafia lynch could be loss, which it could, thereby implying we shouldn't attepmt to lynch mafia today, not the opposite, which you are accusing him of implying.

No he's saying the exact opposite...

Can you not read?? 0.o

[Battle Mage]

no Mod ive met is cruel enough to give mafia a vig-style kill method.

You think i'd kill GW twice?

And be allowed to use both a additional mafia power role vig kill along with the normal kill?

No, thats why its ridiculous. I didnt say you were scum, i said your play felt scummy. But then, whats new?

BM

So if you always find me scummy, why do find it a problem here, and feel the need to bring it up?

Because its an annoying trait. In case you hadnt noticed, i'm not beating around the bush here. This is probably LyLo one way or another. I want everything clear.

[Xtoxm]

Right I typed something there but it's come out blanck O_o

I'll try again.

[Xtoxm]

Plus, Norinel was one of the few that wanted to go after the CR yesterday rather than the mafiate.

[sarcasm]yep because his only post today doesnt atall stink of trying to get rid of the mafia goon [/sarcasm]

That's actually quite important- two power roles, one mafia, and one CR only leaves one recruitable townie left. So the cult can't be bigger than two people;

still means that lynching the last mafia could be an instant lose, but it could be worse.

BM

No he's saying the exact opposite...

Can you not read?? 0.o

He's saying the last mafia lynch could be loss, which it could, thereby implying we shouldn't attepmt to lynch mafia today, not the opposite, which you are accusing him of implying.

[Battle Mage]

Um...Why are NOT the CR?

..? Lol...

Are you serious!?

Well, why aren't you? What reasons are for me not to believe you are the CR, as you asked me for Norinel?

Sorry kiddo, the burden of proof is with you i'm afraid. I've already given the case on Norinel. The fact you werent paying attention is not my problem. Now, you on the other hand have not given a single reason for me to be scum. As i've already said, this is probably LyLo, and as you clearly don't have a good grip on the game atm, its a good idea for you to iron out your suspicions.

BM

[Xtoxm]

And I don't like the way you are saying people are confirmed to be stuff when their not.

I'm getting deja vu. Didnt we have this exact debate in another game?
Oh and wait...i remember now! I was right and you were wrong. You've already given your opinion of me in that game. A meta is there for a reason.

Yes, but you

were

confirmed there.

Norinel is not confirmed as CR here.

He's as confirmed CR here as i was confirmed innocent there. Neither case is 100%, but both are about as damn near certain as you can get. There's not a great deal of point me trying to explain this to you, but as soon as you've answered my original question, i'll re-go over the case on Norinel.

BM

In said game you had a cop result.

Norinel has not had a cult cop come out with a guilty here.

[Battle Mage]

Plus, Norinel was one of the few that wanted to go after the CR yesterday rather than the mafiate.

[sarcasm]yep because his only post today doesnt atall stink of trying to get rid of the mafia goon [/sarcasm]

That's actually quite important- two power roles, one mafia, and one CR only leaves one recruitable townie left. So the cult can't be bigger than two people;

still means that lynching the last mafia could be an instant lose, but it could be worse.

BM

No he's saying the exact opposite...

Can you not read?? 0.o

He's saying the last mafia lynch could be loss, which it could, thereby implying we shouldn't attepmt to lynch mafia today, not the opposite, which you are accusing him of implying.

Does your brain stop reading before the end of the sentence. His primary point is that whilst killing the last mafia COULD result in a loss, it could be worse-in other words, he is emphasising the fact that a mafia lynch could still be a valid play.

BM

[Battle Mage]

And I don't like the way you are saying people are confirmed to be stuff when their not.

I'm getting deja vu. Didnt we have this exact debate in another game?
Oh and wait...i remember now! I was right and you were wrong. You've already given your opinion of me in that game. A meta is there for a reason.

Yes, but you

were

confirmed there.

Norinel is not confirmed as CR here.

He's as confirmed CR here as i was confirmed innocent there. Neither case is 100%, but both are about as damn near certain as you can get. There's not a great deal of point me trying to explain this to you, but as soon as you've answered my original question, i'll re-go over the case on Norinel.

BM

In said game you had a cop result.

Norinel has not had a cult cop come out with a guilty here.

For reasons we both know, that cop result was far from conclusive. In fact, you yourself pointed this out at the time.

[Xtoxm]

Um...Why are NOT the CR?

..? Lol...

Are you serious!?

Well, why aren't you? What reasons are for me not to believe you are the CR, as you asked me for Norinel?

Sorry kiddo, the burden of proof is with you i'm afraid. I've already given the case on Norinel. The fact you werent paying attention is not my problem. Now, you on the other hand have not given a single reason for me to be scum. As i've already said, this is probably LyLo, and as you clearly don't have a good grip on the game atm, its a good idea for you to iron out your suspicions.

BM

I resent that statement. I've been very active in this game throughout, and i've made clear my current suspicions.

[Xtoxm]

Plus, Norinel was one of the few that wanted to go after the CR yesterday rather than the mafiate.

[sarcasm]yep because his only post today doesnt atall stink of trying to get rid of the mafia goon [/sarcasm]

That's actually quite important- two power roles, one mafia, and one CR only leaves one recruitable townie left. So the cult can't be bigger than two people;

still means that lynching the last mafia could be an instant lose, but it could be worse.

BM

No he's saying the exact opposite...

Can you not read?? 0.o

He's saying the last mafia lynch could be loss, which it could, thereby implying we shouldn't attepmt to lynch mafia today, not the opposite, which you are accusing him of implying.

Does your brain stop reading before the end of the sentence. His primary point is that whilst killing the last mafia COULD result in a loss, it could be worse-in other words, he is emphasising the fact that a mafia lynch could still be a valid play.

BM

The "could be worse" bit is refering to the maximum size of the Cult, which is capped at 2, currently, it is noting that we might not be completely screwed if we miss Cult today. You are twisting his words, and I don't like that.

[Battle Mage]

Um...Why are NOT the CR?

..? Lol...

Are you serious!?

Well, why aren't you? What reasons are for me not to believe you are the CR, as you asked me for Norinel?

Sorry kiddo, the burden of proof is with you i'm afraid. I've already given the case on Norinel. The fact you werent paying attention is not my problem. Now, you on the other hand have not given a single reason for me to be scum. As i've already said, this is probably LyLo, and as you clearly don't have a good grip on the game atm, its a good idea for you to iron out your suspicions.

BM

I resent that statement. I've been very active in this game throughout, and i've made clear my current suspicions.

I'm sorry if the truth hurts, but this a serious point in the game now. You're a good player, with a good nose for scum. The fact that you arent fully paying attention is really irritating me immensely.
Being active is fine, but if you're chasing shadows and not looking at everything, all the time, you miss stuff. You've made your current suspicions clear, but until you actually give some reasoning, you aren't going to persuade anybody, and most importantly, you aren't going to see how ridiculous the assuation you are making, is.

BM

[Xtoxm]

And I don't like the way you are saying people are confirmed to be stuff when their not.

I'm getting deja vu. Didnt we have this exact debate in another game?
Oh and wait...i remember now! I was right and you were wrong. You've already given your opinion of me in that game. A meta is there for a reason.

Yes, but you

were

confirmed there.

Norinel is not confirmed as CR here.

He's as confirmed CR here as i was confirmed innocent there. Neither case is 100%, but both are about as damn near certain as you can get. There's not a great deal of point me trying to explain this to you, but as soon as you've answered my original question, i'll re-go over the case on Norinel.

BM

In said game you had a cop result.

Norinel has not had a cult cop come out with a guilty here.

For reasons we both know, that cop result was far from conclusive. In fact, you yourself pointed this out at the time.

It took me a while to realise cos you never explained it for me, but you were clear in either he was telling the truth as cop and you were not mafia, or he was your buddy, who randomly claimed to bus you under absolutley no suspicion. There is no comparison between the two sitautions.