Sushi Mafia! Game Over

[AK]

@Qanqan
I just googled Kohada and found this:

"Kohada
It is almost impossible to talk about "Edomae Sushi" (Tokyo-style sushi) without this fish.
It is not an expensive fish for sushi but perfectly marinated Kohada is called "Yokozuna of Edomae-Sushi" (King of Tokyo-style sushi) thus many sushi lovers in Tokyo says the value of sushi restaurant can be evaluated by the preparation of this fish. Kohada is in the herring family and the name of this fish changes as the fish grows just like yellowtail change the name as the size gets larger. For yellowtail, the price goes up as it grows but for Kohada it is the opposite. The smallest fish ("Shinko") is the most expensive because as it gets larger, Kohada can get very bony and hard to eat as sushi. This fish name changes from "Shinko", "Kohada", "Nagazumi" then "Konoshiro". When "shinko" is in season in early spring, it usually sells at the market price of around 1kg for 25000yen - which is about $125/pound! "

[Qanqan]

That site doesn't acutally say that that fish is used for sushi, and it's quite likely they are flat out talking out of their asses, hyping up their restaurant, to make them sound more fancy. Also, I heard Edomae sushi is an 1800's style of sushi (since 'Edo' has been called 'Tokyo' for quite a few years).

[hp [leaves]]

Way to derail the thread...

[DrippingGoofball]

I won't consider unvoting AK until I see his evaluation of the players in the game. It's clear from Santos that the mafia has safeclaims.

[zwetschenwasser]

The Mafia has safeclaims???

[hp [leaves]]

I believe my role is that of an 'actor', according to MafiaWiki. Otherwise, no, I am not third party( if you are thinking I win when I get to have the deciding vote, no I don't) and I win with the town.

Also, I was given the okay to claim 'Kami'

if that makes any difference if I have any case left to prove my innocence. I kind of got a jacked role

[zwetschenwasser]

Ooh... Interesting...

[Jebus]

I am for the extension though I want to hear from Jebus. Why do you want a mass claim so early?

It's not too early into this game, and it'd be a nameclaim that I meant. This merely because it seems we're almost all vanilla, and so that anything that doesn't necessarily fit might stick out.

I didn't exactly recall that Santos said he had a fakeclaim, so meh. Though then again, I've played in plenty of games elsewhere where to scumgroups had the same fakeclaims :/

Sigh. Vote: AK We kill raider tomorrow.

Why raider?

...For the very scummy and opportunistic mass-claim suggestion, and voting for his admitted "number two" suspect (me).

I get the claiming bit, but why is voting for the number two suspect scummy?


Also, contrary to DGB, I'll go by the precautionary principle and not hop on the AK wagon till I see how he goes about answering our questions and his general analysis, or lack of.


Sorry for my quick disappearance, general workload for life-stuff is to blame.

[AK]

Heres my toughts of the remaining players after having read the game through.
I've marked everyone with colours symbolizing how scummy i find them.

Red = obvscum

Brown = likely scum

Orange = In between

Green = townish

Cyan = unplacable

1. Seraphim

After reading the thread I haven't found anything screaming neither townie nor scum, can't say much about him.

6. ortolan

Mostly gut feeling from his posts, atleast I've forgotten anything concrete I might've had against him..

7. DrippingGoofball

Bandwagoner!
DGB has made it her "trademark" to start the bandwagon of the day, ending with the death of a townie. This would be a null tell if she was presenting her own ideas, but she's merely pointing out posts from the previous day, with a wrong accusation made by a dead townie. Atm I haven't got the time to go back and quote these posts, but surely if you think about it you can see how she's just repeating the thoughts of dead people leading lynch after lynch.

This is about the most scummiest thing to do, getting townies lynched while still being able to say: "I didn't start the wagon, I just pointed out a few posts by confirmed townies."

Vote: DrippingGoofball

8. raider8169

Can't say if he's scum or townie.

9. Minineko (replacing alvinz95)

Lurker/inactive - can't say anything about him/her..

10. zwetschenwasser (replacing Counselwolf)

Active, but not in a very constructively way. Spamtard of the highest degree
Can't decide if I find him scummy or townish.

11. Sentata (replacing Badguy)

I've already stated my case against him, look at one of my latest posts.

12. hp [leaves]

Cant really decide if he's acting mainly pro-town or not. Another in-between, predominantly townish though..

14. Azhrei

As a result of the "Tally-case", I find Azhrei quite scummy, nothing he has posted in the game so far has made me think otherwise, so the way Talitha played leads me to him being scum.

15. Riceballtail

Not quite overactive, no scum or town tells.

16. Narsis (replacing Sipylus)

See above.

18. Slicey

This is my top-townie. He's been working for the town all the way through, I think he's very likely to turn out pro-town.

21. Jebus

The accusations of Jebus have been voiced in the thread lately by other people, I can only second those.

22. Qanqan (replacing Hybris)

Seems townish to me, haven't got anything concrete to point out his townieness, mostly gut feeling from reading the thread.

23. WhereIsTony (Farkshinsoup(replacing Septia))

This was where my last vote was placed, but reading further made me think of him as a more likely townie, so he's down to in-between.

Lastly I'll add a bit of setup speculation:
I don't think that there's two mafias with each some sort of restriction, I'm more likely to think that we have a bus driver or something like that, could be named the Sushi Train-role or something That would explain the killing of Sirdanilot.

[Slicey]

zwet is so obviously town it hurts.

Also, you kinda contradicted yourself in your comments on DGB and Az. >_> You say that DGB is scummy by making cases out of posts from people that are confirmed town. Then you say the case on Az is pretty good because of posts from someone who is confirmed town. Because of this contradiction, PB's scumminess and overall the last post of yours didn't really say anything other than you think DGB is scum,

Vote: AK

I'm on the fence with DGB. I doubt she's ever been this wrong before about who is and isn't scum. Is she intentionally getting it wrong? I'm not sure. That's why I'm on the fence.

[AK]

@Slicey
I've been asked to comment on EVERYONE, and so I did. And there is a significant difference: I just voice my suspicion of Azhrei, I do not try to get a bandwagon started against him, also isn't the suspicion of a cop worth a bit more that those from a mere townie?

It is fine that you find Zwet townish, I don't know what to make of him. I've just read about 20 pages of posts, I'm bound to have forgotten several of the posts throughout the game, he might be acting very townish in one of these, but for what i remember he's placed as in-between.

[Jebus]

Go into detail on the DGB case, I'd like to see this one.

Holding off on a vote for now, I'm somewhat interested in what you've got to say.

[AK]

@Jebus
It's gonna be tomorrow. In Denmark it's getting pretty late (GMT +1), and I've still got some maths homework to do, so I'm pretty much out for tonight..

[shaft.ed]

Vote Count:

AK

(6) Slicey, raider8169, Qanqan, Narsis, DrippingGoofball, zwetschenwasser

Jebus

(4) hp [leaves], Setanta, Seraphim, ortolan

zwetschenwasser

(1) Riceballtail

ortolan

(1) Jebus

DrippingGoofball

(1) AK

Note Voting:

WhereIsTony, Azhrei, minineko

With 16 alive it's 9 to lynch.

[Slicey]

Just carefully read zwet's posts and you'll see he's clearly a townie. And you really didn't go into any detail, except kinda for DGB.

[DrippingGoofball]

No one adds votes on AK until his homework is done.

[zwetschenwasser]

AK's post just whacked at my scumdar, largely because of his "gut feeling" explanation of his Ort suspicions. It's too late in the game to be relying on purely gut for cases. However, I'm somewhat inclined to believe his claim, although it probably could go either way. I'm keeping my vote on him.

[raider8169]

I'm 14, DGB, but I start going a little nuts the closer it gets to midnight. Raider, if it gets people to believe AK and unvote him, then I will wait to lynch you tomorrow. Qangan, I claimed Wasabi, btw. Now let's get back to Jebus...

Unvote; Vote: Jebus

AK's post just whacked at my scumdar, largely because of his "gut feeling" explanation of his Ort suspicions. It's too late in the game to be relying on purely gut for cases. However, I'm somewhat inclined to believe his claim, although it probably could go either way. I'm keeping my vote on him.

Are you forgetting what you are posting in this game. Your vote is for Jebus yet you just said you are keeping your voting on AK.

[Slicey]

I also disagree with his read on Qanqan, who really hasn't done anything this game so far. And I believe Narsis has posted enough to form an opinion on.

[zwetschenwasser]

Yes, but apparently Shaft doesn't want to recognize my unvotes.

[shaft.ed]

Vote Count:

AK

(5) Slicey, raider8169, Qanqan, Narsis, DrippingGoofball

Jebus

(5) hp [leaves], Setanta, Seraphim, ortolan, zwetschenwasser

zwetschenwasser

(1) Riceballtail

ortolan

(1) Jebus

DrippingGoofball

(1) AK

Note Voting:

WhereIsTony, Azhrei, minineko

With 16 alive it's 9 to lynch.

Man editing powers would be nice

[Qanqan]

Just carefully read zwet's posts and you'll see he's clearly a townie. And you really didn't go into any detail, except kinda for DGB.

Everyone is saying Zwet is town. but i still don't see it...

[Riceballtail]

Everyone is saying Zwet is town. but i still don't see it...

QFT

[Azhrei]

Just carefully read zwet's posts and you'll see he's clearly a townie. And you really didn't go into any detail, except kinda for DGB.

Everyone is saying Zwet is town. but i still don't see it...

Neither do I...


I'm unsure what to think of AK's response, as he does contradict himself as Slicey pointed out, but there's something a little odd about it. However he does make a very good point on DGB, and it's something I myself have been thinking about recently as well.

However, none of that on its own really puts in a mind to vote for him, its just not conclusive. However, the post of Sirdan's defending PB that I brought up earlier is something that is quite clear. Sirdan was defending PB, and he was trying to hide it. And that is something that I can't let go by. Now that we have his response, I'm happy to vote for him.

Vote: AK

[AK]

Azhrei that vote looks like you want me gone before I can say more, and with you as one of my suspects it could be a scum tell..

To all, please bear in mind that my comments on everybody was based on pure memorization after one read of the thread. Also do bear in mind that I've been in this game for just 5 days, while most of you have been playing this game for almost 2 months..

I've just got to spend a little time on a few other mafia games that I've been neglecting a bit the last few days before I'm gonna go back and explain the DGB case more and answer your questions.