726 - Mind Screw Gaiden, Game Over

[Tarhalindur]

Problem of the hour #1:

I see. So Tar, your information is similar to mine? I suspect you may be who I am lookin for. I will origin claim if you do, but I would request that you go first.

@Kinetic: I don't like that idea too much. I would prefer a straight origin massclaim. I will, of course, stop it once I have the information that I need.

I propose Tar to start, because I think we may not need any more than his claim.

Also, I will be V/LA for a bit. Ill still be around, but not all that much.

Something is rotten in the house of Denmark...

The possible scenarios here:

1) Kairyuu was given information about a different player than I was
2) Kairyuu and I were given information about the same player (or Mod...)
3) Kairyuu is searching for me and I am searching for someone else (doubt it, this scenario seems fishy)
4) I was given information about Kairyuu (read: Kairyuu is MOD-CONFIRMED non-town), Kairyuu was given information about someone else.
5) Kairyuu is looking for me,I am looking for Kairyuu, Kairyuu is MOD-CONFIRMED non-town (from Half-Life) and looking for me for reasons uncertain.
6) Nat has crossed a line as Moderator even I try not to cross without warning (i.e, my role-based information is lying or I'm somehow not town when that's the alignment I was told at game start)

Side note: Something's fishy here. Does anybody with a better knowledge of Half-Life than I have know what exactly results from a certain "resonance cascade" in Half-Life 2? It might be relevant here.

Problem of the hour #2:

I suppose I wouldn't be entirely against a name claim, though I doubt it'll accomplish anything. Any name could be either town or scum

(plus there are safeclaims)

and the few roles that have name information likely don't have enough information or it is misleading/incomplete to break the set up.

Wait, how exactly do you know that there are safeclaims? That looks like one hell of a slip to me...

[populartajo]

I agree entirely with Tar here, except from the Half-Life part. Where does it come from?

Unvote Vote : veerus.

[veerus]

Problem of the hour #2:

I suppose I wouldn't be entirely against a name claim, though I doubt it'll accomplish anything. Any name could be either town or scum

(plus there are safeclaims)

and the few roles that have name information likely don't have enough information or it is misleading/incomplete to break the set up.

Wait, how exactly do you know that there are safeclaims? That looks like one hell of a slip to me...

How is it a slip? It's an assumption based on history. All previous MS games included a safeclaim for scum. I see no reason to expect anything different here.

Tar, your #4 & #5 are interesting because I also know that someone from Half-Life is a mod-confirmed non-town. That's why I said I wouldn't be against a name claim and also why I think scum are likely provided a safe name claim ala previous MS games.

Also,

fos: populartajo

for voting me without much reasoning (except using someone else's who didn't even vote me in the first place). In fact, looking at tajo's posts in isolation shows that since the game started, he contributed absolutely NOTHING to the discussion.

[Natirasha]

"I've been workin' on the railroad. All a live-long day."

[quote="The Fifth Vote Count(AKA the "You Hit the Nail On The Head" Vote Count"]Vote Count
Natirasha(3): Kairyuu, MafiaSSK, forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(1): veerus
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(0):
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(2): Kinetic, Vi
populartajo(0):
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(2): Tarhalindur, populartajo
Vi (0):
Battle Mage(0):

FoS Count
Natirasha(2): hp [leaves], forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(0):
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(1): Kinetic
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(0):
populartajo(1): veerus
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(0):
Vi (0):
fluffy bunnies(1): Tarhalindur
Floofy bunnies(1): MafiaSSK
lol I am arguing with myself(1): Vi[/quote]

[veerus]

Why is Battle Mage still in the vote counts? Copy/paste for the lose? :p

[populartajo]

/facepalm.
Thats exactly how you tell scum not to claim their real names.
Veerus, have you played MindScrew games before?

[populartajo]

Also, fos: populartajo for voting me without much reasoning (except using someone else's who didn't even vote me in the first place). In fact, looking at tajo's posts in isolation shows that since the game started, he contributed absolutely NOTHING to the discussion.

Holidays, etc.

[forbiddanlight]

Why is Battle Mage still in the vote counts? Copy/paste for the lose? :p

Hey, voting BM should ALWAYS be an option.

Wait, how exactly do you know that there are safeclaims? That looks like one hell of a slip to me...

Seriously? No, seriously tar? You should know better. I'm pretty sure Nat was trying to stay faithful to your modding practice.

4) I was given information about Kairyuu (read: Kairyuu is MOD-CONFIRMED non-town), Kairyuu was given information about someone else.
5) Kairyuu is looking for me,I am looking for Kairyuu, Kairyuu is MOD-CONFIRMED non-town (from Half-Life) and looking for me for reasons uncertain.

What did I miss that involves these conclusions?

Well, all of them, but especially stuff that mod confirms non town.

And yes, I got the "someone from Half Life is non town" as well.

I see. So Tar, your information is similar to mine? I suspect you may be who I am lookin for. I will origin claim if you do, but I would request that you go first.

Why is this being planned?

[Natirasha]

"Draw-Go is a style of Magic the Gathering deck that involves heavy use of counterspells, draw spells, and removal spells to keep the opponent's threats under control while they attempt to draw their win condition, generally a black or white fatty of some sort."

Malthusis replaces Spambot(who did not confirm). Prodding Stef(who did confirm).
As a sidenote, as Illumina and Vi can tell you, you MUST unvote/unFoS before you can vote again.
EDIT: As a sidenote, if anyone wants to be a TURBOPRO, I need 1 /in for my large normal.

[quote="The Sixth Vote Count(AKA the "Teferi Teachings" Vote Count)"]Vote Count
Natirasha(3): Kairyuu, MafiaSSK, forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(1): veerus
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(0):
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(1): Vi
populartajo(0):
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(2): Tarhalindur, populartajo
Vi (0):
Battle Mage(0):

FoS Count
Natirasha(2): hp [leaves], forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(0):
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(1): Kinetic
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(0):
populartajo(1): veerus
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(0):
Vi (0):
fluffy bunnies(1): Tarhalindur
Floofy bunnies(1): MafiaSSK
lol I am arguing with myself(1): Vi[/quote]

[malthusis]

Hello all, I just need a quick check on what's gone on before I post something.

[MafiaSSK]

I also got that someone from Half Life is anti-town.

[malthusis]

I think it's a good idea to origin claim (I can't really see any punisher roles or any other downside attached to origin claims), and we get a few advantages out of it.

[veerus]

Like what?

[Kairyuu]

Back. Sorta. RL is still giving me hell (senior service project).


Ok then. So it seems that quite a few people have been given info that a person/people from half-life are anti-town. And since everyone seems to be saying that in thread, the scum will very likely not claim to be from half-life, rendering a name claim/origin claim utterly useless now.

For the record, I have information that G-Man is not town. I may as well claim that now, since the scum have too much warning for the nameclaim to work at this point anyway.

[veerus]

ditto

[Vi]

I got the same note.

But I recall that Tarhalindur claimed different information, specifically regarding the modlynch. Is there any more you'd like to say about that, Tarhalindur?

[Stef]

I will be with you soon. Just got back home.

[hp [leaves]]

Just a thought... if everyone got the same note, maybe that is the role Nat is playing... Depending on Tar's information on the Nat lynch, perhaps Nat is trying to stay alive but at the same time he's leaving a hole perhaps. My note didn't say that the role from Half-Life was scum, just not town. Perhaps a Survivor?

Survivors are as bad as scum in the lategame which will arrive quick because this is a mini.

I also didn't get the note.

[MafiaSSK]

So lynch Nat?

[Tarhalindur]

I have little time, so I'll make this brief.

First, I'm pretty sure that hp [leaves] just claimed scum, so...

Vote: hp [leaves]

Second, my information is, likewise, that G-Man is in the game and not town. Given the fact that other players were informed this, there's a few obvious possibilities for what he's doing (Mafia Godfather, neutral, Moderator). My gut is telling me that G-Man might also be the game's equivalent of Chairman Mao...

Third, I should probably reveal this now, since in context it's effectively a Miller claim. I am a character from Half-Life myself - another character, one who is aligned with Mr. Crowbar... er, Gordon Freeman... in the games. Looking at the game timeline and my flavor, it's probably most accurate to say that I come from somewhere in the Half-Life 2 Episodes. I have at least two abilities (the "know G-Man is not town" ability and the "shouldn't noose the Mod" warning, to paraphrase); I may have more.

What's getting really interesting is that the flavor behind my, to paraphrase, "You really shouldn't put the Mod in the noose" information is ALSO from Half-Life. Specifically, it appears to be derived from the flavor surrounding the resonance cascade (which, after review, would be the alien-unleashing cataclysm in the first game), and is not too dissimilar to the flavor in one of the early vote counts (the one in where there were three votes on the Mod).

I'm not sure exactly what's so bad about lynching the Mod, if anything - I just know that I am explicitly warned not to do so.

Fourth, this will likely be my last post in this game for a bit. I will have absolutely no access until 01/07 at best (01/14 if worst comes to worst). I would prefer to remain in the game but will (grudgingly) understand if I must be replaced.

[veerus]

First, I'm pretty sure that hp [leaves] just claimed scum,

I thought the same thing when I read his post.

unvote; vote: hp[leaves]

Also, vote: for Tar to not be replaced.

[Natirasha]

"Rules of the Death Note #1: You must know a person's face and name for it to work."

Tarhalindur's V/LA is noted.
Prodding Illumina.

[quote="The Sixth Vote Count(AKA the "Is that a mod hint that Death Note works differently?" Vote Count)"]Vote Count
Natirasha(3): Kairyuu, MafiaSSK, forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(0):
hp [leaves](1): veerus
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(0):
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(1): Vi
populartajo(0):
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(2): Tarhalindur, populartajo
Vi (0):
Battle Mage(0):

FoS Count
Natirasha(2): hp [leaves], forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(0):
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(1): Kinetic
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(0):
populartajo(1): veerus
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(0):
Vi (0):
fluffy bunnies(1): Tarhalindur
Floofy bunnies(1): MafiaSSK
lol I am arguing with myself(1): Vi[/quote]

[Vi]

"Is that a mod hint that Death Note works differently?"

Preying on role names, not abilities...

I wonder if hp knows what he said?~

[hp [leaves]]

When/how did I claim scum?

[Vi]

When/how did I claim scum?

You didn't get the note, right?