The Hobbit Mafia - GAME OVER

[MMCL]

I agree - it isn't fair to vote Uraj without a replacement for him. Are there any scum players left?

[Talitha]

Vote: replace Uraj

[mikehart]

effective immediately shelper shall replace Uraj45

[Yaw]

Alright, may as well make the pressure serious enough to force content.

Vote: Shelper

That's 3 of 6.

[Jaylen]

Count me in, and make it a 4 of 6.

Vote: Shelper

[willows_weep]

Oo, are we not waiting for Shelper to make a defense of some sort?
I see that its like ONLY 4 of 6 but...are we like deadlined or something?

[Jaylen]

There is no deadline that I am aware of... there is (on my part at least) a high amount of impatience

If 4 out of 6 votes encourages Shelper to make a defense in a rapid manner, then good, right?

[MMCL]

I agree... I will 5th the vote very shortly but want to hear from Shelper first.

[shelper]

No posts made and already two-thirds of the votes needed, i feel so loved.
Since it would appear we're following the strategy from yesterday i'll just go right ahead and claim.
I am roac, and an old roac at that, i can't see that much and i can't fly as well as i used to either.
I don't have much to offer the town except my bird brain, so yeah, i'm a plain townie.

As far as i can see, all the votes were based on me for uraj's voting, does anybody else have any good reason for voting me?

[MMCL]

Oh - now that is interesting.

Im not voting shelper.

[Yaw]

hm. For once, a plausible roleclaim.

Let me do the numbers.

11 players left.

5 dwarves left, including Thorin.
3 scum left.
1 hobbit left
most likely Beorn...

And that's 10. I'm leaning towards not believing it, because I can think of other minor roles I'd tend to include before Roac, and with dwarvish townies so far having the old bird as a townie as well seems a bit off. Still, I can't discount the possibility completely.

[Talitha]

I haven't read The Hobbit, so I'm relying totally on you all to tell me whether shelper is a good vote or not.

[Yaw]

I'm honestly not completely sure.

I do want to keep the sweep going, but I don't think this lynch is a bad thing in either case. Roac isn't a role that automatically has to be in this game (he was a named character, but with a bit part), so we can't confirm that way. The way I see it, we have 10 of 11 roles pretty well accounted for -- those people

have

to be in this game. So if we lynch Shelper and he's scum, wonderful. If we lynch Shelper and he's innocent, that's the mystery 11th role and we can't possibly be fooled by a scum roleclaim again. Either way, it looks pretty good. With 11 alive and 3 scum left (2-1 split), we have the leeway to recover if this is a mistake.

[Jaylen]

Oh - now that is interesting.

Im not voting shelper.

Hrm, that reply is almost as interesting as the role-claim we've all just seen.

You seem adamant, MMCL - is there anything else you can tell us short of a blanket refusal to vote?

[the silent speaker]

'A' roäc? Roäc was the bird's name. What he was 'a' was a raven. I feel bad for shelper, because there really is no way he can defend against Uraj's actions and now (if he's scum) he's well and truly scrod, but I just don't buy his claim. In a way I hope he

is

a townie because then he can replace someone else if need be, but I think he's in an awful spot through no fault of anybody but perhaps Uraj and that's that. Vote stands.

[shelper]

there really is no way he can defend against Uraj's actions

There is even a bigger no way i can defend against uraj's actions if you won't tell me what the heck they are . Apart from lurking, that is.

[Flying Dutchman]

Die, scum. You knew you couldn't claim any person, so you tried to google a suitable animal? Your nice site is the first that pops up while searching in google for "The Hobbit" + animals.............. Seems forged to me!

Confirm Vote: Shelper

[the silent speaker]

I voted based on his voting pattern -- reluctant to vote goblin jediknight when he messed up, but quick enough to vote non-goblin Argoti when

he

bungled his claim.

[Talitha]

Ugh - I was going to vote shelper but that would be the lynching vote (I think?).

Do we want to give him another chance to talk?

[Jaylen]

Your call, I guess.

I certainly see no reason for myself to remove my vote on him.

It's a good claim, but I'm not inclined to believe it, sorry Shelper

[Talitha]

vote: shelper

(Thanks for replacing - I'll put you out of your misery quickly )

[mikehart]

Vote Count

Shelper

(5)

Flying Dutchman, the silent speaker, Yaw, Jaylen, Talitha

Six

to lynch folks.

[MMCL]

OK - here's the reason I am reluctant to vote Shelper.

His roleclaimed character is specifically mentioned in my roleclaim. It's not the same character I have - but my character mentions his. What does that mean? Im not quite sure.

I'm in two minds over whether to vote him or not because of this.

I want to hear from him one last time - so I would ask that nobody votes him just yet - then I will make a decision.

[Jaylen]

hrm, in the meanwhile until we hear more,

unvote Shelper

Thanks MMCL

[shelper]

Dutchman, what kind of accusation is that? My character name appears on a website? Hell, if i google "the hobbit bilbo" and a website also comes up *mentioning* bilbo, whoever claimed him must be lying?
I gave the website because i thought some people might have read the book a long time ago, and didn't remember all of it. Sue me for trying to give the town information i thought might be helpful?

Vote: Flying Dutchman

for some of the crappiest logic i have ever seen.

Speaker: I can't explain his voting pattern though, there is only so much a replacement can do. He said he didn't vote for jediknight because he was waiting for more people to give their thoughts about him. I'm not sure how high the vote count was or how many people still needed to give their thoughts.