Mini 746: Speed Dating - I've Had The Time Of My Life (Over)

[molestargazer]

And molestargazer, your name could be rearranged into molester...

Yep.
Anyone fancy leaving with me tonight?

Yeah, it does. I didn't realise that when I first used it a good 5/6 years ago now. Too late now.

[BSG]

"At table 1 we have BSG. She is a rock hard feminist and hates it when a guy sees himself as better than a girl. Her greatest love are penguins, but perhaps you can change this. The good part is that she does never anything wrong as she is controlled by a penguin. So you might say nice things about penguins, or your love story might end very soon. But all in all, she's a great girl to spend your time with.

Although a bit late, a Happy Valentinesday to all of you.
It's also great to see some players again .

So first of, what confuses you about the wincon Zwet?
And I just love ( ), Molestar's defence of Zwet in post 47. Add that you are trying to play both sides of Zwet - Caboose and that you point something out which has no meaning yet, deserves you a

Vote Molestargazer

[molestargazer]

So first of, what confuses you about the wincon Zwet?
And I just love ( ), Molestar's defence of Zwet in post 47. Add that you are trying to play both sides of Zwet - Caboose and that you point something out which has no meaning yet, deserves you a

Vote Molestargazer

I think the penguin that controls you might've glitched.

Could you please quote and explain what's scummy about my defence of zwet? I think that someone being confused about their role PM doesn't necessarily mean they're scum.

Why not play both sides? I'm saying I see their points of view, but I don't think it means zwet is scummy yet.

I'm pointing out what I see. No more. I don't see how that's scummy.

[zwetschenwasser]

Aha! I understand now! BSG, explain yourself.

[Kmd4390]

knowing that they will lose if they are lynched but wanting to help the town anyway.

I think you need to read the win condition again.

[zwetschenwasser]

KMD said: "Molest said"

Are we going to give him a hard time about this all game long?

[Caboose]

knowing that they will lose if they are lynched but wanting to help the town anyway.

I think you need to read the win condition again.

I think

you

need to read the win condition again.

FoS: Kmd

[Kmd4390]

Are we going to give him a hard time about this all game long?

Yes.

[Kmd4390]

knowing that they will lose if they are lynched but wanting to help the town anyway.

I think you need to read the win condition again.

I think

you

need to read the win condition again.

FoS: Kmd

I read it again. Still says the same thing.

[Caboose]

Then you should know that if a townie leaves with a scum, then the townie will lose.

[Kmd4390]

Then you should know that if a townie leaves with a scum, then the townie will lose.

Are you getting this from your role PM?

Unvote, Vote Caboose

In the OP, it says don't leave with married people.

Hint: I don't see that in my Role PM.

Asking Mod via PM if my paraphrasing of it is ok.

[Max]

Can I just reassure you that analysing people's win conditions will not aid the town, or the anti-town.

[Caboose]

Then you should know that if a townie leaves with a scum, then the townie will lose.

Are you getting this from your role PM?

Unvote, Vote Caboose

In the OP, it says don't leave with married people.

Hint: I don't see that in my Role PM.

Asking Mod via PM if my paraphrasing of it is ok.

Exactly.
What's with the vote?

[Kmd4390]

Asking Mod via PM if my paraphrasing of it is ok.

I win when all of the scum are out.

Then you should know that if a townie leaves with a scum, then the townie will lose.

Are you getting this from your role PM?

Unvote, Vote Caboose

In the OP, it says don't leave with married people.

Hint: I don't see that in my Role PM.

Asking Mod via PM if my paraphrasing of it is ok.

Exactly.
What's with the vote?

Exactly? You are saying that town loses by leaving with scum. I do NOT see that in my Role PM at all.

[Caboose]

Asking Mod via PM if my paraphrasing of it is ok.

I win when all of the scum are out.

Then you should know that if a townie leaves with a scum, then the townie will lose.

Are you getting this from your role PM?

Unvote, Vote Caboose

In the OP, it says don't leave with married people.

Hint: I don't see that in my Role PM.

Asking Mod via PM if my paraphrasing of it is ok.

Exactly.
What's with the vote?

Exactly? You are saying that town loses by leaving with scum. I do NOT see that in my Role PM at all.

Well, then, you either didn't get a town role PM or mole and I have some kind of survivor aspect to our roles, I'm inclined to believe it's the former.

Since Max said analyzing our win cons aren't going to help, I'll stop talking about it.

[Kmd4390]

I have a theory, but it's probably best we stop talking about it.

Unvote

[BSG]

Still waiting for your answer what was confusing about the wincon, Zwet.


Anyway, MSG (<-- Coincidence?), your defence was scummy due to this:

Also, surely if he was scum, he'd understand that the scum are the married people 'cos he's one of them?

You gave him a way out. By saying who the scum are and by saying that you were confused as well, before Zwet could respond to Caboose ('Eh???' does not count). It's allowed to defence, but do so after said player has responded, besides 'Eh???'. Besides, the mod has said that there could be more parties in this game, so the defence of yours doesn't have to be the case.

Playing both sides:
It is the tone when I read it that bothers me. You don't think it's a scum tell. If this is true, I would expect a fierce tone, but I don't get that from that part. You just state your opinion, and you give the attacker a golden star as he's having the first go at scumhunting...

Pointing out:
You've got my point. You point something out, and that's it. You point something out, which might not even be relevant. This gives the impression that you actually do something, while actually doing nothing. And that's scummy. What you pointed out, is just filling.


Hooray for Zwet's contribution ( ).

FoS Zwet

[zwetschenwasser]

BSG, I didn't get the whole town can't leave with married people thing.

[MonkeyMan576]

Would the mod pair a townie with a scum at the same table?

[Caboose]

Would the mod pair a townie with a scum at the same table?

Since the pairs are rotating, I would imagine so.

[zwetschenwasser]

I have negative clue.

[molestargazer]

For now, I'm going to ignore the Win Condition discussion - everything that needs to be said has been said, I wouldn't have been able to add to it. If someone wants me to, I will.

But now onto the main... bit.

You gave him a way out. By saying who the scum are and by saying that you were confused as well, before Zwet could respond to Caboose ('Eh???' does not count). It's allowed to defence, but do so after said player has responded, besides 'Eh???'. Besides, the mod has said that there could be more parties in this game, so the defence of yours doesn't have to be the case.

I understand your point - and indeed I'll be learning from this and allowing people to present their own defence before I butt in in future - but I was simply pointing out a potential flaw in the attacking argument.

Playing both sides:
It is the tone when I read it that bothers me. You don't think it's a scum tell. If this is true, I would expect a fierce tone, but I don't get that from that part. You just state your opinion, and you give the attacker a golden star as he's having the first go at scumhunting...

I try not to play fiercely. I don't condemn / attack people unnecessarily. I'll state a problem, and allow them to respond.
As for the 'gold star', I don't see the problem. The game needed to move on and people needed to start scumhunting, I was just acknowledging that.

Pointing out:
You've got my point. You point something out, and that's it. You point something out, which might not even be relevant.

Guilty.

However...

This gives the impression that you actually do something, while actually doing nothing. And that's scummy. What you pointed out, is just filling.

There's no evidence I can give for this, but I can assure that that was not my intention when filling. I was just typing out what I saw, and thought might be worth a mention at the time.

I have negative clue.

Don't get this. Could you explain?

[zwetschenwasser]

Would the mod pair a townie with a scum at the same table?

[MonkeyMan576]

Would the mod pair a townie with a scum at the same table?

Since the pairs are rotating, I would imagine so.

But didn't he say that if your table partner is lynched, you are lynched too? How can you be expected to defend someone who might be scum?

[zwetschenwasser]

I would also like to know this.