elvis_knits wrote:I think it's funny how two people voted the stupid option. I wonder which two?
I think its obvious.
People, you have to learn that its a cool thing to admit you are wrong instead of keeping pushing it.
I was the first to vote for it, actually. Considering this poll lacks a "being evaluated by physical appearance in the first place" option, the feminist part of me decided to go with the first option. Honestly? I don't care if people think I'm unattractive. That's their opinion. It also means that if they choose to interact with me thereafter, they are more likely to see my qualities as a person. I someone calls me beautiful, after checking them over for obvious signs of head trauma and brain damage for such a blatant falsehood, I would proceed to feel uncomfortable. Because that is not what should matter about me. Now I feel tempted to go burn a bra or a vacuum cleaner or something...except I hate bra shopping and I really need to vacuum now.
Also, why is "virgin" an insult? I shall not start ranting about how society makes way too big a deal out of virginity, since I already did that back in the thread about the girl who was selling hers. For the record, I don't consider virgin an insult, but I consider it insulting that people actually judge women (and men) on this factor. I speak as a celibate 20something-year-old.
I still don't see how telling someone they're beautiful could be demeaning. It doesn't mean that you don't have other qualities that the person appreciates, or even deems more important. Telling someone they're pretty after you see a picture of them is not the same thing as saying "wow you are pretty, but so stupid! lol you are just a pretty face."
Talk nerdy to me.
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elvis_knits wrote:I still don't see how telling someone they're beautiful could be demeaning. It doesn't mean that you don't have other qualities that the person appreciates, or even deems more important. Telling someone they're pretty after you see a picture of them is not the same thing as saying "wow you are pretty, but so stupid! lol you are just a pretty face."
I answered as a personal opinion. You didn't leave any other options open, so I went with the closest to my opinion of "who cares if women are pretty"
I'd think being told you're unattractive is far worse than being told you're beautiful. Because unattractive =/= ugly. Unattractive is closer to unlikable. And you can be physically attractive and intelligent. The two most physically attractive people I know are in several honors classes with me.
JDodge wrote:
Shea was pointing out the creepiness of tajo and others while stating his own opinion as to why their behaviour is creepy.
It's really not, you know. If someone posts a picture of themselves on a forum, in a thread like that, they generally expect some kind of comment on it. Saying that someone looks good in a context like that is not creepy at all.
I agree.
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Didn't read the thread, just the first page. I lean towards being lied to as being more demeaning than being told the truth. I don't want someone claiming I'm beautiful when I'm average at best. At least if I'm told I'm unattractive, I know that should attractiveness ever become a goal, I have work to do. I'd rather be underconfident than overconfident.
"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I'd rather believe that "I'm OK". We all have deficits, whether they are physical or otherwise. You don't need to point mine out, thanks, and if you do (or make veiled reference to it) you're a jerk.
If I posted a pic, I'd expect/hope for some kind of nice comment regardless of how I compare to Anjelina or whoever your magazine cover of choice happens to be. We're not models inc. We're a group of friends and aquaintances who play games together.
Those who voted the first option - you've never told your Mom she looks nice?
I'd rather believe that "I'm OK". We all have deficits, whether they are physical or otherwise. You don't need to point mine out, thanks, and if you do (or make veiled reference to it) you're a jerk.
If I posted a pic, I'd expect/hope for some kind of nice comment regardless of how I compare to Anjelina or whoever your magazine cover of choice happens to be. We're not models inc. We're a group of friends and aquaintances who play games together.
Those who voted the first option - you've never told your Mom she looks nice?
I have, but that's because it was true. I prefer honesty. And when I post pics, I expect it. I feel I'm smart enough to be able to sort out who's just being antagonistic and who's actually giving constructive criticism.
"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
-StrangerCoug
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JDodge wrote:Xofelf is obvious if you look at the pictures.
And what, exactly, is that supposed to mean?
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I feel I'm smart enough to be able to sort out who's just being antagonistic and who's actually giving constructive criticism.
Might just be me, but I don't feel that ANYONE is qualified to give me "constructive criticism" about my looks, except me. Or maybe a really close friend.
And realistically... the vast majority of people aren't pointing our flaws in someone's appearance because they genuinely care about helping that person better themself.
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I feel I'm smart enough to be able to sort out who's just being antagonistic and who's actually giving constructive criticism.
Might just be me, but I don't feel that ANYONE is qualified to give me "constructive criticism" about my looks, except me. Or maybe a really close friend.
Maybe so. My personality is one that finds everyone has something worth saying. Whether I heed it or not is my choice. But I do understand your approach. It's just a fundamental difference in how things are seen.
"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
-StrangerCoug
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Talitha wrote:
Those who voted the first option - you've never told your Mom she looks nice?
Not that I can recall. My mom and I don't see eye to eye on aesthetics.
When I was a kid, my great Aunt would pay us a quarter every time we said "Aunt Hannah is beauuutiful." My brother would make a couple bucks every time we'd visit them.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
