MKM II GAME OVER

[Shadow Knight]

There have been times I've floated an idea that was odd to say the least just to see what other people's reactions are to it. I don't believe a mass claim would help the town at this time, but just bringing the idea up wasn't scummy.

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-populartajo (4): Gorrad, AceMarksman, qwints, ortolan
-Empking (1): Shinnen_no_Me
-zwetschenwasser (3): populartajo, pacman281292, Empking
-Shinnen_no_Me (1): Riceballtail
-Dubya (1): Shadow Knight
-AceMarksman (2): caf19, zwetschenwasser

Not voting (5): killa seven, Surye, Moratorium, Dubya, Cream147

With 17 alive it takes 9 real votes to lynch.

[AceMarksman]

Massclaim proposition is scummy=WIFOM case and tunnel visioning by Ace

Unvote; Vote: AceMarksman

1) Massclaim? Have you checked your eyes recently? I've been thouroughly against that since page one.
2)Tunnel visioning? I have stated that the case against tajo is far from insurmountable, and I am fully open to finding other things that are scummy.

[AceMarksman]

Surye- I was just wondering about the town's feelings towards a vote claim, which is very different from a role-claim, right?

[populartajo]

Ace, why are you against a massclaim?
Precisely, plz.

[populartajo]

EBWOP
*name massclaim.

[Surye]

Surye- I was just wondering about the town's feelings towards a vote claim, which is very different from a role-claim, right?

Agreed, however, votes are most likely related to roles, and if you felt that strong about tajo's suggestion as you seemed to be, your post seems odd.

[AceMarksman]

tajo: because rule 13 is very specific warning us not to, and it was a bad idea in MKMI.

Surye: Oh yeah, I didn't think that number of votes would be indicative of role importance.

[populartajo]

tajo: because rule 13 is very specific warning us not to, and it was a bad idea in MKMI.

Surye: Oh yeah, I didn't think that number of votes would be indicative of role importance.

Did you read MKMI?

[Surye]

tajo: because rule 13 is very specific warning us not to, and it was a bad idea in MKMI.

Surye: Oh yeah, I didn't think that number of votes would be indicative of role importance.

Yet you talk about MKMI? I thought even a light read over MKMI would make that very obvious, plus the fact that it's such an obviously important game mechanic.

But anyways, my vote is no claiming of any kind at this point.

[pacman281292]

Ace, why are you against a massclaim?
Precisely, plz.

Pop, that looks as if you were supporting a name massclaim.
Name massclaiming gives scum far too many hints, and even more in a Mario-themed game, as there are many "effects" known that certain roles might do. It's bad. Nothing more to discuss.

Bandwagoning pop for this was also bad. Too early.

[populartajo]

Ace, why are you against a massclaim?
Precisely, plz.

Pop, that looks as if you were supporting a name massclaim.

No, no. Thats like asking someone why do you disagree with a random event. I want to know his reasons.
Im going to ask ALL this question:

If somebody claims Mario, would you believe him, yes or not?

[pacman281292]

Ace, why are you against a massclaim?
Precisely, plz.

Pop, that looks as if you were supporting a name massclaim.

No, no. Thats like asking someone why do you disagree with a random event. I want to know his reasons.

In the way you state it, it looks like if you were for.

[populartajo]

Ace, why are you against a massclaim?
Precisely, plz.

Pop, that looks as if you were supporting a name massclaim.

No, no. Thats like asking someone why do you disagree with a random event. I want to know his reasons.

In the way you state it, it looks like if you were for.

It looks like.
Specially when Ive been saying that I dont support it since I brought it to the table.

[populartajo]

Also, answer the question...

[pacman281292]

If somebody claims Mario, would you believe him, yes or not?

Why would someone claim Mario? check the flavor more carefully...
Also, answering such would be outguessing the mod, as you are telling us to *think* if a Mario claimer is scum or not.

[AceMarksman]

Um, someone would claim mario because?

And to answer, no, I wouldn't.

[Shinnen_no_Me]

If somebody claims Mario, would you believe him, yes or not?

This question makes me think that you are not town, at all...

[AceMarksman]

Shinnen, why is that?

[Shinnen_no_Me]

Because claiming Mario is likely claiming scum. Why would anyone try to claim scum? For me, is that he doesn't know that.

[AceMarksman]

Yes, but why does that question make tajo look scummy? I agree that the question is a stupid one, but stupid=/=scummy all the time.

[zwetschenwasser]

Because claiming Mario is likely claiming scum. Why would anyone try to claim scum? For me, is that he doesn't know that.

This reeks of inside knowledge. Are you saying that you know that Bowser's army is the town and Mario's army is scum?

[AceMarksman]

Bowser's army isn't an informed minority.

Unvote, Vote:zwet

That looks like a MAJOR scumslip right there.

[zwetschenwasser]

Bowser's army isn't an informed minority.

Unvote, Vote:zwet

That looks like a MAJOR scumslip right there.

How do you know this?

[Shinnen_no_Me]

Because it made me think he didn't know that Mario is scum.

And wait, what a big slip Zwet.

Unvote, Vote: Zwet

[Shinnen_no_Me]

Unvote, Vote: Zwet

Fix'd.