MKM II GAME OVER

[Sajin]

The vote change penalty penalized the information town had more then it penalized scum imo.

The immunity removal penalized town SEVERELY.

[populartajo]

I blame this loss to the incredible amount of village idiots this town had.

Good job, Kast. I had you pegged as scum since you were very wishy washy regarding my obv towniness and looker obv scumminess. I couldnt make a proper against you though.

Also RBT survived more than he should have. So well played there.

Nice to play with all of you.

Also ortolan fails. A lot. /justkidding, this wasnt prob your best, pal.

Thx Law for an interesting setup. Day 1 was lots of fun trying to break the game. Thx Kmd and Zazie for reviving this game.

[Kast]

@Sajin-
I think multiple town players lying about their votes hurt the town much more than any loss of information from those votes changing.

If any townies took the time to analyze the votes, D2 gave them a strong chance to definitively catch us lying about our votecounts.

[ortolan]

did you lie about your votecounts? lul. I tried to check the info myself but I dunno if I was too apathetic or just took some of the information you gave for granted (some of it you openly acknowledged was supposition anyhow).

Kast: you lied about your votes?

Did K7 lie about his votecount? Why did he do this?

Mod: was the inclusion of information about items of non-existent factions purely intended for WIFOM purposes?

I thought the scum/Shy Guy roles were really cool.

K7 when you give us nothing to go on re: your alignment and deliberately post to avoid being replaced for lurking (when you're still not actually contributing anything) just comes across as scummy. I believe I've seen you lurk to endgame before as scum (Explosiva I think), and wasn't going to let it happen again.

[Riceballtail]

Role a player should get when he comes into the game by a 1-up shroom:
If Mario bought the 1-up shroom, a Toad joins the game, if Luigi bought it a Shy Guy joins the game, and if a Toad bought it one of Bowser’s minions joins the game, depending on the day, with the order as in the draft above. For example, if Toad bought the 1-up shroom on Night 4, and uses it the same night or later, then a Red Koopa joins the game. (1: Goomba, 2: Paragoomba, 3: Green Koopa, 4: Red Koopa, etc.)

[Kast]

@Ortolan-
Votecounts were authentic. However, RBT and I didn't know how many votes we actually had on D2. It was secret from us as a punishment. I thought my vote was 1 but it was actually -1.

K7 lied and claimed to have 0 votes when he actually had 1 vote.

[ortolan]

Um why the hell did he do that?

[ZazieR]

If K7 claimed to have had 0 votes on D5, he was telling the truth. Ace targeted him N4.

[ZazieR]

Those penalties really hurt town in the end. Millar and Looker should have been modkilled instead IMHO.

This. I hope Lawrencelot will explain why he chose to do these punishments, instead of mod-kills.

[ortolan]

Actually if I do say so myself I didn't screw up too badly

my wagon entrapped Shadow Knight and I knew Empking was innocent

it's just that K7 and millar's anti-town play (seemingly deliberately being as scummy as possible and breaking role PM quoting rule) wasn't enough to balance the free lynch we got of ThAdmiral

and Kast proved too good again. Plus although I think based on the opening PM the reasoning that there were probably more factions in the game (ergo we were screwed) was fair, plus Kast's extensive work justifying himself made him look town

[qwints]

I was SO pissed that I got killed N1 after successfully outguessing Tajo's Town Test (TM). I just guessed based on the item values from MKM I.

[killa seven]

Actually if I do say so myself I didn't screw up too badly

my wagon entrapped Shadow Knight and I knew Empking was innocent

it's just that K7 and millar's anti-town play (seemingly deliberately being as scummy as possible and breaking role PM quoting rule) wasn't enough to balance the free lynch we got of ThAdmiral

and Kast proved too good again. Plus although I think based on the opening PM the reasoning that there were probably more factions in the game (ergo we were screwed) was fair, plus Kast's extensive work justifying himself made him look town

When the fuck did i quote my role pm?

And i made a mistake saying i had no votes on the previous days before day five, i didn't mean to type that i was a little drunk but once it was submitted i figured if i went back on that statement people would look to much into it, i didn't like my role this game at all.

[Kast]

@K7-
Once you were lynched, you could have let the town know the truth instead of taking that information to the grave with you. It's usually better to admit a mistake than to lie and try keeping it secret.

[killa seven]

@K7-
Once you were lynched, you could have let the town know the truth instead of taking that information to the grave with you. It's usually better to admit a mistake than to lie and try keeping it secret.

the thread was locked by the time i saw my lynch.. i think.

[semioldguy]

Even just knowing about the penalties taking effect would have made a difference, as there were several things I would have shared had I known I didn't have immunities from what I perceived to be a majority of the scum-kill methods.

It was said that a punishment would be inflicted upon millar13's faction, but it didn't say what the punishment was nor did we know which faction he was or wasn't a part of.