Newbie 816 - Game over!

dramonic · Post Post #50 (ISO) » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:32 pm

well, I suppose it depends a lot on the activity level :S

Adel · Post Post #51 (ISO) » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:43 pm

yeah, so why are you voting for EB?

Cirdua · Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:04 am

Vel-Rahn Koon wrote:
Official Vote Count

ElectricBadger - 2 (dramonic, lailai)
Cirdua - 2 (Steve Kulko, tfrench)

lailai - 2 (havingfitz, ElectricBadger)

Why is Lailai in black? Me and EB got the same amount of votes against us.

I've got a question. Why are the days so long? I'd think 7 RL days would be more than enough time.

Read some games on this site, also not everybody can post all the time, some people here have jobs, girlfriends, etc. which prevents them from being online all the time. So if we only have one week to post a lot of people wouldn't be able to actively contribute to the game. A three-week deadline is actually rather short, and when someone reaches a majority the Day will immediatly go into Night phase.

dramonic · Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:10 am

Adel wrote:yeah, so why are you voting for EB?

RVS?

Vel-Rahn Koon · Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:31 am

Official Vote Count

pancakes - 1 (Adel)
ElectricBadger - 2 (dramonic, lailai)
Cirdua - 2 (Steve Kulko, tfrench)

lailai - 2 (havingfitz, ElectricBadger)

havingfitz - 1 (pancakes)
dramonic - 1 (Cirdua)

Not Voting - 0 ()

5 to Lynch.

Deadline

is the end of Tuesday, August 11 (Eastern, GMT - 4).

Vel-Rahn Koon · Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:41 am

Steve Kulko wrote:I've got a question. Why are the days so long? I'd think 7 RL days would be more than enough time.

dramonic wrote:not at all Steve. If the days were only 7 RL day long we'd always end up with NLs

Adel wrote:
Steve Kulko wrote:I've got a question. Why are the days so long? I'd think 7 RL days would be more than enough time.
actually, I agree. If we all post several times a day, we should be able to generate an informed (as informed as day 1s ever are) decision within a week or so.

dramonic wrote:
well, I suppose it depends a lot on the activity level :S

And that's why the days are so long. Newbie games are plagued with the need to replace people, because a lot of people who come here don't know if they're going to like the game or not, or like the way we play the game. So we're constantly replacing people in Newbie games.

By the time you find out someone has flaked, about 5 RL days have gone by, and you actually wind up statistically favoring the scum team because you can't get enough info to make informed decisions.

If no one ever flaked, or if the games were larger, I would agree - with good activity levels and very little replacing, you can get all the info you need to make an informed decision in a week or so. But the extreme flaking issue in the majority of Newbie games makes having a shorter "Day" a waste of time.

Cirdua · Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:57 am

Vel-Rahn Koon wrote:Official Vote Count
ElectricBadger - 2 (dramonic, lailai)
Cirdua - 2 (Steve Kulko, tfrench)
lailai - 2 (havingfitz, ElectricBadger)

@ Mod:

Why did you bold Lailai? he's only at L-3, just like me and Badger.

So I can track who was the first to reach that vote count so that I know who the lynch is in case of a tie.

Adel · Post Post #57 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:38 am

lailai was the first to get two votes, right?

Vel-Rahn Koon wrote:[*]At deadline, ½ the original number of votes will be required for a lynch. In the case of a tie, the person who first received the required number of votes will be lynched. If this number is not met, a No Lynch will occur.
There will be no reduced number of votes in LyLo.

ElectricBadger · Post Post #58 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:18 am

Are we worried that the votes won't change until the 11th?

Adel · Post Post #59 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:22 am

unvote, vote: ElectricBadger

dramonic wrote:
Adel wrote:yeah, so why are you voting for EB?
RVS?

are you happy with him being at lynch -2 then?

lailai · Post Post #60 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:51 pm

Ouch! I'm gonna get lynched!
Really, mafiascum is so different. a Epicmafia game ends in ~10 minutes and this lasts for weeks? :S

dramonic · Post Post #61 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:36 pm

unvote; vote: Adel

No. You are an IC, you should know better than to put someone at l-2 in a game where the newbies can EASILY quicklynch.

lailai · Post Post #62 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:29 pm

unvote, vote Cirdua

because i fell like it.

Cirdua · Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:09 pm

Adel wrote:
unvote, vote: ElectricBadger

dramonic wrote:
Adel wrote:yeah, so why are you voting for EB?
RVS?
are you happy with him being at lynch -2 then?

Are you trying to skip Day 1? Are you perhaps scum trying to get a free NK?

@Lailai: So you're putting me to L-2, may I also ask why or are you planning on keeping your reasons for yourself (which is

not

a good idea)

Adel · Post Post #64 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:20 pm

dramonic wrote:
unvote; vote: Adel

No. You are an IC, you should know better than to put someone at l-2 in a game where the newbies can EASILY quicklynch.

take a look at http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... uthor=Adel to see how many posts I've made on this site since I placed him at lynch -2. No quicklynch was going to happen.

ElectricBadger · Post Post #65 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:35 pm

Unvote Lailai, Vote Adel.

I see what your play is, but a nice time to shift out of RVS, I think. How did you feel about me at L-2, Adel?

lailai · Post Post #66 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:10 pm

The reason I voted for you, is because other people are voting for you and whoever voted the same person as me voted someone else instead

ElectricBadger · Post Post #67 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:16 pm

lailai wrote:The reason I voted for you, is because other people are voting for you and whoever voted the same person as me voted someone else instead

Too confusing for me....

I think you mean, you switched just to join a bandwagon?

Do you feel it's useful to create bandwagons without a reason for them?

lailai · Post Post #68 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:23 pm

If I stay on that vote it prettymuch have no use. Guess it's because on epicmafia everybody have to vote for a person to get that person lynched..

Adel · Post Post #69 (ISO) » Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:06 am

ElectricBadger wrote:
Unvote Lailai, Vote Adel.

I see what your play is, but a nice time to shift out of RVS, I think. How did you feel about me at L-2, Adel?

I wasn't worried about it.

havingfitz · Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:28 am

Just checking in as I don't want to be too absent while I try to figure out how the game is played and what is going on. Still ok with where my vote is as no one else has done enough to make me change it.

In an effort to provide some input on the discussions...on the subject of no lynching...I agree with the point being made that a NL would be a wasted opportunity to get a mafia member out and just allow them a free shot at getting rid of non-mafia.

ElectricBadger · Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:32 am

Adel wrote:
ElectricBadger wrote:
Unvote Lailai, Vote Adel.

I see what your play is, but a nice time to shift out of RVS, I think. How did you feel about me at L-2, Adel?
I wasn't worried about it.

And what sort of a tell were you looking for? 'Cause blithe unconcern seems like as much of one as you were likely to get.

dramonic · Post Post #72 (ISO) » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:52 am

Adel wrote:
dramonic wrote:
unvote; vote: Adel

No. You are an IC, you should know better than to put someone at l-2 in a game where the newbies can EASILY quicklynch.
take a look at http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... uthor=Adel to see how many posts I've made on this site since I placed him at lynch -2. No quicklynch was going to happen.

How does that relate to anything?

also,

unvote

Too quick to be at l-1.

Adel · Post Post #73 (ISO) » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:10 am

ElectricBadger wrote:
Adel wrote:
ElectricBadger wrote:
Unvote Lailai, Vote Adel.

I see what your play is, but a nice time to shift out of RVS, I think. How did you feel about me at L-2, Adel?
I wasn't worried about it.
And what sort of a tell were you looking for?

none, I'm just getting to know the rest of you.

dramonic wrote:
Adel wrote:
dramonic wrote:
unvote; vote: Adel

No. You are an IC, you should know better than to put someone at l-2 in a game where the newbies can EASILY quicklynch.
take a look at http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... uthor=Adel to see how many posts I've made on this site since I placed him at lynch -2. No quicklynch was going to happen.
How does that relate to anything?

I was on the site and paying attention to all of the games on my watched topics list. Had there been another vote, placing him at lynch -1, I would've responded by unvoting. Then we would have a tell, or at least a "teaching" moment.

~~~

A teaching moment:
using the search function of the forum, like ttp://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.php?search_author=Adel allows you to see all posts made by a certain player, in reverse chronological order. Many games have a problem with lurkers, and many new(ish) and some lazy veteran players make the mistake of lurking in one game while posting often in the forums or in other games. Talking about on-going games is against the site rules, but mentioning (as an example) that player xxxx hasn't posted in this game for four days, but has posts elsewhere on each of those days for a total of 74 total posts since his last post in this game, is allowed by every mod I've played under.

pancakes · Post Post #74 (ISO) » Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:13 am

ill

unvote

and vote

No lynch

let's see where we stand tomorrow