Open 186; Jungle Republic (Game Over)

[saberwolf]

Unvote,Vote:Saberwolf

You certainly are threatening to self-hammer if you reference a game where you did it already in 18 posts after a wagon starts on you. If you actually consider doing it you're either scum or a huge liability for the town.

LOL, so you put me one vote closer to see if I'll do it? That's anti-town and scummy of you right there.

I already posted and quoted it, I'm not gonna gambit this game, so you guys are wasting your time. Due to a certain bet I made, I'd love it if you guys lynched me day 1, however I have every intention of playing this game, so it's your choice.

Why are you acting like you're going to be lynched already? It's only page two. My vote is not intended to support a policy lynch of any kind.

I'm almost up there in zwet status. I get quicklynched and BWed day 1 more often than there exist games.

[Budja]

I have every intention of playing this game

Good

I'm not gonna gambit this game, so you guys are wasting your time.

Good

I'd love it if you guys lynched me day 1

Bad

If you drop that attitude/mindset, I'll be happy.
Otherwise, replace out (the right thing to do, bet or no) or be lynched.

Why are you acting like you're going to be lynched already? It's only page two. My vote is not intended to support a policy lynch of any kind.

Then whats the vote for?

[saberwolf]

I can't replace out, or I lose the bet.

If you guys were to lynch me, then I cannot possibly flake out of the game, fulfilling my primary condition.

My secondary condition is to win this game as town.

You guys decide which order that happens

I forget where my vote is...

anyways: [b}unvote; vote: lynx[/b] until I hear further on why I got that vote

[saberwolf]

unvote; vote: lynx

[Lynx The Antithesis]

Citing two games where your play greatly hindered a town win should certainly not make you immune from being pressured. Trying to paint yourself as a highly volatile player does not make you impossible to read.

you can thank me for getting us out of RVS btw, as was my goa

The way you're saying this seems to insinuate that you deserve townie points for getting us out of the RVS stage. In what post is it obvious that you are trying to do this?

Then whats the vote for?

To elicit a response from him. We haven't even heard anything substantial from a majority of players. Why would a lynch now in any way be beneficial to the town?

[Budja]

@Lynx, It wouldn't. I still believe you are joining a "policy-wagon" so to say.

@Saber, swap "primary" and "secondary".

[dank]

unvote, vote Saber

Play to win or GTFO. That post has "policy lynch me" written all over it.

Are you not voting on the same "policy wagon" as we speak, because his post was begging for a policy wagon? Why's it wrong for lynx but not you?

[dank]

/do you have an issue with policy lynches? Since I notice on a clearer readthrough that you never really say you're against them, just the fact that lynx is denying thats what a saber vote is.

Oh lookey, its 3:30am.

[saberwolf]

I'm drunk

[Budja]

Who said it was wrong? I like the "policy wagon" right now.

[Lynx The Antithesis]

My vote is more for him tossing his self hammer around like it means we shouldn't wagon him because he could possibly play in a similar manner. If we all just played leniently with him because he has exhibited behavior like that before, then we wouldn't get a proper read on him.

[Memorable Raindrops]

have you guys seen open 185?

everyone jumped on me in the RVS and I self hammered by post 18...they didn't like that...

unvote, vote saberwolf

Let's see your self-hammer.

[saberwolf]

Oh goody, its saberwolf. Are you trying to tell us you only use gambits when you're town, in order to clear yourself as town?

Vote: Lynx The Antithesis

because don't call me sweet!

nah, the odd time i dont gambit, and sometimes will gambit as scum. My goal is to not have a reliable meta read if possible. I don't expect to be cleared as anything this game, especially as I announced my gambicy, which obv means I won't be gambiting this game....duh.

[saberwolf]

I'm PMing Mith, and asking his permission to self hammer...

[hewitt]

This is ridiculous and totally stupid.

[saberwolf]

Oh goody, its saberwolf. Are you trying to tell us you only use gambits when you're town, in order to clear yourself as town?

Vote: Lynx The Antithesis

because don't call me sweet!

nah, the odd time i dont gambit, and sometimes will gambit as scum. My goal is to not have a reliable meta read if possible. I don't expect to be cleared as anything this game, especially as I announced my gambicy, which obv means I won't be gambiting this game....duh.

[hewitt]

nah, the odd time i dont gambit, and sometimes will gambit as scum. My goal is to not have a reliable meta read if possible. I don't expect to be cleared as anything this game, especially as I announced my gambicy, which obv means I won't be gambiting this game....duh.

You realize this doesn't work right? By self-hammering you're playing TO your meta not playing against it. I switch up my attitude, playstyle, and overall persona each game to have an unreliable meta but this is just a ridiculously awful way of doing it saber.

[dank]

unvote, vote paradox

for not posting since p1.

I don't like the wagon growing on saber. imo, we can get a better read on him if we analyze his gameplay and his arguments during the game, not tempt him to do another one of his stupid gambits. I think putting him in a self-hammering situation when he's certainly done stupid things like that before is starting to get a little scummy.

[bigmc109]

unvote, vote:saber

I'm not gonna be able to take that kind of play. Plus it reeks of WIFOM

[ZEEnon]

Vote Count:

saberwolf:

curiouskarmadog, Budja, Lynx The Antithesis, Memorable Raindrops, bigmc109

Lynx The Antithesis:

GinzkeyPlatz. saberwolf

Memorable Raindrops:

Scott Brosius

bigmc109:

Lowell

Lowell:

Paradoxombie

Paradoxombie:

dank

Not Voting:

hewitt

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline: December 23rd, 2009 at approximately 10 p.m.

[curiouskarmadog]

whoa whoa whoa...

lets slow this down a bit and have some conversation...what is everybody's hurry?

BG did you know that your vote was putting him at -1? If so, why didnt you mention it? If so, why did you ask for a claim?

unvote.

[dank]

twas L-2, ckd

[hewitt]

In a way though it was L-1 because if one other person voted saber he was planning on self-hammering.

[dank]

In a way, L-3 is L-1, because if two other people voted saber he was planning on self hammering.

[hewitt]

That's pretty much irrelevant though. saber stated he has asked permission to self-hammer and if one more player voted for him he was going to do it. That's basically L-1 and that's all that really mattered.