Mini 915 - Murder in Murder Free Village (Over)

[Lastsurvivor]

Well, it's just a random vote with a little bit of justification. You're not exactly acting out of your meta either, so I don't really suspect you atm. But, like I said, there's less than a page of posts now.

[Haschel Cedricson]

I just looked through your posts and we have never posted in the same thread as each other

I never claimed we had. Quite the contrary, actually.

Anyhoo, question for danakillsu: Would you care to tell us why My Milked Eek voted for DeeJayCee?

[Haschel Cedricson]

EBWOP: Lastsurvivor, you say that there has been less than a page of posts, yet at the time you posted there was EXACTLY a page of posts. Why are you trying to downplay the activity level in this game?

Unvote, vote: LastSurvivor.

[Haschel Cedricson]

EBWOP: Just kidding.

Unvote, Vote; Flareonage

.

[Flareonage]

EBWOP: Just kidding.

Unvote, Vote; Flareonage

.

you win this round.... I am completely confused

[Herodotus]

Page 2 Vote Count:

DeeJayCee (4):

Flareonage, Nicodemus, My Milked Eek, charter

Haschel Cedricson (3):

DeeJayCee, Nobody Special, danakillsu

Flareonage (3):

Kmd4390, Lastsurvivor, Haschel Cedricson

Nobody Special (1):

Darkstrike_11

Nicodemus (1):

Radical Hijinx

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting (0):

With

12

players, it takes

7

to lynch or

6

to choose not to lynch.
Deadline is 6:00 AM UTC, Monday, Feb 15.

[Kmd4390]

I'll admit that both of those points are slightly odd, but why do you find them scummy KMD? Any particular reason?

The first, I pretty much explained already. The second ties into something that I've found very reliable lately. My "Page One Nervousness" Tell. First, the "didn't notice it was open" thing. That almost sounds like a "sorry for lurking" post, except that it's the very first post of the game. Why make that kind of comment when you're the first to post? Sounds like scum overexplaining. Next, the second sentence tells us "I'm about to jokevote". It's the first post of the game. What else would he be doing? More overexplaining. Sometimes newer scum get paranoid and make mistakes like this. It's what I've looked for in my past few games and it's been pretty damn accurate. I'll post links when the games end if you'd like.

I like KMD's reasoning.

Vote: Flareonage

Hmm. I find this interesting because it looks like you are jumping on the first thing to come up. Maybe trying to spring up an early wagon to start discussion. Maybe trying to go under the radar with an easy vote. It may depend on Flare's flip. If he's scum, I don't think I see you as a buddy, so that would make you likely town. If he's town, it could still go either way. Guess I'm gonna call this a slight town tell, and bump it to null if Flare flips town.

I don't like KMD's reasons.

Elaborate please.

It could always use some more votes...

I don't like KMD's reasons.

It's the best we got.

<I'm not reposting that image, so pretend it's here-Kmd>

This looks like an "I'm getting looked at, but it's early so won't be taken too seriously, maybe I can just shrug it off" defense.

I really don't see the point of attacking someone based on a random vote.

Oh, there's definitely a point. I've found it to be pretty effective lately.

[charter]

Lol

unvote, vote Kmd

Your nervousness tell and overexplaining tell are really stretching. In fact, all your reasons are really stretching. It seems like those are just nervous tells, I don't see why that makes him scum. Some people thrive being scum (though I don't know if Flare does, and I doubt you do either).

I'm sad that Deejay hasn't posted when he's got a few votes, but I'll live.

[DeeJayCee]

Heh, sorry guys i realized i got school on Thursday and i haven't started organizing anything.

Well considering i don't want to die in the first round for just being at the top of the players list, and i do agree with KMD when he pointed out some "unusual" um, points, regarding Flareonage's posts. I guess if i want to survive i should vote for him as well.

Unvote, Vote:Flareonage

[My Milked Eek]

Anyhoo, question for danakillsu: Would you care to tell us why My Milked Eek voted for DeeJayCee?

Why would you ask him? Ask me!

The first, I pretty much explained already. The second ties into something that I've found very reliable lately. My "Page One Nervousness" Tell. First, the "didn't notice it was open" thing. That almost sounds like a "sorry for lurking" post, except that it's the very first post of the game. Why make that kind of comment when you're the first to post? Sounds like scum overexplaining. Next, the second sentence tells us "I'm about to jokevote". It's the first post of the game. What else would he be doing? More overexplaining. Sometimes newer scum get paranoid and make mistakes like this. It's what I've looked for in my past few games and it's been pretty damn accurate. I'll post links when the games end if you'd like.

Except that I've found them not to be scumtells, in fact the second one I've only encountered on newbtownies, which I was happy about because it gave me some easy pushing as scum.

Unvote. Vote: kmd

. It's the best we got.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Why would you ask him? Ask me!

Because I'm not interested in your answer to that question.

[My Milked Eek]

I'm not sure what the intent is behind your question, but I'll wait until after he answered.

[Darkstrike_11]

hmmm...KMD I would very much like to see some instances where that hypothesis turned out correct. It seems to me as if early nervousness could apply to any new player regardless of alignment. However if this is something you've seen a lot in other games, then go for it. Persoanlly I'm agnostic about your theory. I don't believe it, but would be prepared to believe it if I saw proof. Until then, I find your argument a bit far for a strong first page vote.

I'm not sure what to make of KMD's early hard push, but Im inclined to think it may be a town ploy. I've played once with KMD before and he pushed very hard early on in the game on various players, eventually to get me lynched, despite him being town (and me being town). Basically I'm not so worried about him making a big push early on, cos it strikes me more as town than scum at the present. However this is very subject to change.

Also I don't like the DeejayCee wagon. What is it's logical basis? (that having been said DeeJay's vote on Flareon was awful, even as random)

[Kmd4390]

Lol

unvote, vote Kmd

Your nervousness tell and overexplaining tell are really stretching. In fact, all your reasons are really stretching. It seems like those are just nervous tells, I don't see why that makes him scum. Some people thrive being scum (though I don't know if Flare does, and I doubt you do either).

It's worked recently. I spotted scum on very similar tells VERY early in the game. As in RVS. Of course I was dumb and didn't follow through with it once the game progressed a little, but my Page 1 cases were on scum in both of the games I used them (2 of the last 3 games I joined).

Not sure what you mean by "thrive being scum".

Heh, sorry guys i realized i got school on Thursday and i haven't started organizing anything.

Well considering i don't want to die in the first round for just being at the top of the players list, and i do agree with KMD when he pointed out some "unusual" um, points, regarding Flareonage's posts. I guess if i want to survive i should vote for him as well.

Unvote, Vote:Flareonage

Really? Page 2 and you feel you are in an "it's me or Flare" kind of situation?

Except that I've found them not to be scumtells, in fact the second one I've only encountered on newbtownies, which I was happy about because it gave me some easy pushing as scum.

Unvote. Vote: kmd

. It's the best we got.

I'll be posting the links as soon as I can.

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DS, remind me. How many scum was I right about in that game?

[danakillsu]

Anyhoo, question for danakillsu: Would you care to tell us why My Milked Eek voted for DeeJayCee?

That's a very shrewd question. If I say I don't know, which is true, you will say that I have just as much reason to vote for him as for you. But the fact is, you claim to have reasons for your vote unknown to the other players. My Milked Eek did not claim any reason for his first vote when he made it. That being said, I'll

unvote

because it was a completely random vote.

[Nobody Special]

I have a need to

unvote

because it's still January.

[Radical Hijinx]

While I don't think there is anything in the flare case, I don't think it was scummy to make it

Well considering i don't want to die in the first round for just being at the top of the players list, and i do agree with KMD when he pointed out some "unusual" um, points, regarding Flareonage's posts. I guess if i want to survive i should vote for him as well.

Unvote, Vote:Flareonage

If you want early nervousness though, heres your guy.

Unvote,Vote:DeeJayCee

[danakillsu]

Yep.

vote:DJC

for three reasons.
1)His vote for Flareonage for self-preservation
2)His nervousness
3)I want to see him claim

[Radical Hijinx]

Yep.

vote:DJC

for three reasons.
1)His vote for Flareonage for self-preservation
2)His nervousness
3)I want to see him claim

Youll put someone at L-2 and ask for a claim on the second page?

[danakillsu]

Why not? If that's a problem for people, I can take it back off. But I think he's the right vote.

[Lastsurvivor]

Why not? If that's a problem for people, I can take it back off. But I think he's the right vote.

He's only posted three times. How can you be so sure already?

[danakillsu]

Obviously, I mean the right vote for now. And I think it's weird that you and I are having two different conversations at the same time.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Give your response to Lastsurvivor's question in the form of three sentences of at least 10 words each.

[My Milked Eek]

3)I want to see him claim

LOL. Subtly rolefishing is what I'd call this, except it's on Page 2 with him having posted thrice (at most). There's no way he's claiming now.

[Radical Hijinx]

Its about as subtle as a half brick smashing into the back of your neck.