Mini 915 - Murder in Murder Free Village (Over)

[charter]

Nice, good job Kmd and Haschel. Great job modding, Hero.

Boy is jbernier going to be pissed when he gets back.

[Herodotus]

Roles:

Kmd4390, charter

You are a

Mafia Goon

, along with XXXXX (Goon) and Haschel Cedricson (Vanilla-Cop.) You can talk with them here, but ONLY during the confirmation period or during night phases.
Any one of you can make a kill each night.
You win when your mafia group makes up half of the town and at least one of you is alive.

Haschel Cedricson

You are a

Mafia Vanilla Cop

. You have a keen sense of smell, and given a night to work, you can detect the scent of vanilla through walls.
Each night, you may target one person. At the beginning of the next day, I will tell you whether that person appears to be a Vanilla Townie.
You are a member of the mafia, along with Kmd4390 and charter, who are both Mafia Goons. You can talk with them here, but ONLY during the confirmation period or during night phases.
Any one of you can make a kill each night. You can't both kill and use your vanilla-cop ability on the same night.
You win when your mafia group makes up half of the town and at least one of you is alive.

Nicodemus

You are a

Hider

.
Each night, you have the option of choosing a player to hide with. This ability cannot be stopped by roleblocking, etc.
If you hide with a player who is anti-town and able to make night kills, you will die. If you hide with a player who is killed that night, you will die. Your death cannot be prevented in either of these cases. But, you will be immune to any kill attempts made against you that night.
You win when at least one town sided player is alive, and all anti-town players are dead.

Nobody Special

You are a

Townie Neighbor

.
You and Lastsurvivor live next door to each other. And your houses are close together, which means you can talk with each other at night. Also, you happen to carry cell phones, and know each other's number, which means you can talk with each other during the day.
You may use the quicktopic here for your communication. Please don't use PM's or any other means to daytalk/nighttalk. Linking to the QT, posting a screenshot of it, or similar, is absolutely forbidden.
You win when at least one town sided player is alive, and all anti-town players are dead.

Lastsurvivor

You are a

Town-Sided Neighbor

.
You and Nobody Special live next door to each other. And your houses are close together, which means you can talk with each other at night. Also, you happen to carry cell phones, and know each other's number, which means you can talk with each other during the day.
You may use the quicktopic here for your communication. Please don't use PM's or any other means to daytalk/nighttalk. Linking to the QT, posting a screenshot of it, or similar, is absolutely forbidden.
You win when at least one town sided player is alive, and all anti-town players are dead.

Darkstrike_11->horrordude0215

You are a

Town Doctor

.
In medical school, you learned how to keep people alive when the things that go bump in the night attack. Each night, you may target one player to be protected from all attempts to kill them. You cannot self-protect.
You win when at least one town sided player is alive, and all anti-town players are dead.

Radical Hijinx->kyle99

You are a

1-shot Vigilante

. Once during any night phase, you may target one player to be killed. If the kill is prevented, that does not enable you to try again.
You win when at least one town sided player is alive, and all anti-town players are dead.

Flareonage->jbernier93, DeeJayCee->vikingfan, My Milked Eek, danakillsu

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.
You win when at least one town sided player is alive, and all anti-town players are dead.

[Herodotus]

Here is the information about actions, as well as some notes from me:

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Day 1 Lynch: Nobody Special
Night 1 Actions:
kyle99: kill danakillsu
horrordude0215: protect charter
Nicodemus: hide with danakillsu
charter: kill Nicodemus
Haschel Cedricson: investigate kyle99

Results:
danakillsu and Nicodemus die.
Haschel receives "kyle99 does not appear to be a Vanilla Townie."

Comments:
The scumteam played well on day 1. Nicodemus's day game was great for his role. A hider drawing the Mafia's kill attempt is excellent for the town. It's a shame that he didn't pick up any information from hiding. However, he did talk about finding Kmd townish, so it's possible that the town will guess that he hid with him.

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Day 2 Lynch: Lastsurvivor
Night 2 Actions:
horrordude0215: protect charter
Haschel Cedricson: investigate jbernier93
KMD4390: kill horrordude0215

Results:
horrordude0215 dies.
Haschel receives "jbernier93 appears to be a Vanilla Townie."

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Day 3 lynch: jbernier93

Comments:
Kmd: A cop claim? I'm surprised you expect people to believe I'd do that.
Cop + Doc + Hider + 1-shot vig in a mini?

Hmm... maybe if the cop was naive...

General comments:
I think that on paper, the setup looks a bit town-sided. Three effective PR's and a neighbor pair. But the PR's don't synergize very well. In fact, they can interfere with each other, as they did when Nicodemus hid with dana and kyle killed him. The doctor can't protect the hider when they're hiding, and can prevent the vig from making a sucessful shot. And if no one dies on a given night, the doctor can't be sure the person they protected is cleared, since the hider might have been targeted for the NK.
I like the vanilla cop because it reinforces the mafia's status as an informed minority.

In my opinion, the town's loss was caused primarily by low activity and not using enough in-depth analysis. However, the mafia in this game was an all-star team. For one thing, charter's distancing from Kmd would have made it tough for the town to determine that they were buddies.

Thank you to Llamafluff for reviewing. I didn't mention him earlier because he ran a setup similar to this, and I didn't want to take a chance that someone would check his modded games.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Charter and Kmd did most of the work. I was planning on continuing my fake case on dana, so when he died at night I felt like I had lost my footing. The only thing I really did to help my side afterwards was posting the Excel chart to keep suspicion on LS without making it look like I was bandwagoning.

I really have been doing homework for the last two days, so my lurking on Day 3 was not intentional. Luckily I took a break when I did.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Comments:
Kmd: A cop claim? I'm surprised you expect people to believe I'd do that.
Cop + Doc + Hider + 1-shot vig in a mini? Hmm... maybe if the cop was naive...

Oh, this.

I am still amazed that worked.

[Nicodemus]

Sigh....

I hid behind dana because I figured he would be a good mislynch target for scum, so he wouldn't be a viable kill. Too bad about vig messing my plan up. Oh, and there would have been no kill N1 and a cleared townie instead of two kills. Nice going kyle >_>.

But yeah, congrats to the scum team, you guys played really well, and lack of any town leaders (seriously, charter and kmd were BOTH scum?) really hurt us. Good game all, hopefully I'll get to play with everyone again sometime.

[My Milked Eek]

Good game. Scum played an awesome game. Even if we had lynched charter or kmd, the other would have gone to win the game.

[horrordude0215]

Congrats scum... but why did you decide to kill me?

[danakillsu]

knew Haschel was suspicious.

[danakillsu]

And kyle, you're a terrible vig.

[Nicodemus]

And kyle, you're a terrible vig.

Don't be too hard on him, you have to admit that your requests to see a player claim on P2 were at least slightly suspicious.

[danakillsu]

well, yeah sort of. but I get my games messed up by other people with power roles too often.

[jbernier93]

Boy is jbernier going to be pissed when he gets back.

Yeah that pretty much sums this up.
:/

[horrordude0215]

and at me protecting charter

[Kmd4390]

Well that went pretty well.

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I pretty much figured after the doc/hider flips that there was no cop, so I figured I'd grab my favorite fakeclaim. People will usually be pretty reluctant to lynch a claimed cop without solid evidence against them even if it doesn't seem plausible.

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Charter did a great job of "suspecting" me but managing to find "another suspect" every time.

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Hero, great job on this game. Scumbuddies, great game. Town, better luck next time.

[Kmd4390]

Oh, and Horror, there were a lot of lynch targets, so going after someone who wasn't likely to be doc-protected wouldn't hurt. Funny that we hit the doc. Also, I didn't want to kill Viking because he seemed to like my logic too much.

[Nobody Special]

Whoa.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Also, I didn't want to kill Viking because he seemed to like my logic too much.

In fact, we couldn't have done it without him.

[Nicodemus]

Do any of the scum mind posting the QT?

[Haschel Cedricson]

It's in our role PMs, but here it is again:

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/dgxvUjFVRFZLc

[charter]

Yeah, I'm surprised no one went back to vet Kmd's cop claim. I almost went and did it myself since I've seen him botch it before, but then realized that it wasn't necessary as soon as Haschel got online (though you never did make it so I could see when you were online, though that was a surgical precision quickhammer) we could win. So I just stopped posting (though I was sick that day) and then went for it after Haschel announced he'd be posting that night.

Pretty shocked that Nico did hide and it was behind dana and dana was vigged. That was like a perfect storm, but dana was a good vig target since a lot of people suspected him. Also a good hider target. Just real bad luck for the town.

[vikingfan]

Grr...just goes to show that one SHOULD look at the vote count, and Haschel and KMD were the last two on the wagon day one. I had the right logic but the wrong people.

Great job scum.

[Kmd4390]

I had the right logic but the wrong people.

Me too, but that was intentional.

[MeMe]

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