Mafia 112: Ridiculous Drama! (Game Over, town win!)


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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:18 am

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Votecount 1: Anger Streak!



SIR CYANIDE (6): Farside, DTMaster, Shadow Dancer, Chronopie, Blue, JacobSavage
Leafsnail (2): Fate, Konowa
FeFiFoFum (1): Shattered Viewpoint
Shattered Viewpoint (1): FeFiFoFum
Farside (1): SIR CYANIDE

Not Voting (10): Richard Massive, the1fifi, mehplusrawr, Shrinehme, Leafsnail, NavyCherub, Henry Hathaway, Jag Johan, Julano


With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:24 am

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This Sir Cyanide bandwagon does look like a paradigmatic juncture for the mafia to quicklynch an expedient exemplary, but I concur that we should dispose of him notwithstanding.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:27 am

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Blue wrote:This Sir Cyanide bandwagon does look like a paradigmatic juncture for the mafia to quicklynch an expedient exemplary, but I concur that we should dispose of him notwithstanding.
Do you possess a polysyllabic posting restriction, good sir?


And,
unvote



I would not be uncomfortable with a Sir Cyanide lynch.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:01 am

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Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
Blue wrote:This Sir Cyanide bandwagon does look like a paradigmatic juncture for the mafia to quicklynch an expedient exemplary, but I concur that we should dispose of him notwithstanding.
Do you possess a polysyllabic posting restriction, good sir?
No, I'm just in a perpetual love affair with the English diction; there is a plethora of words so it would be a compunction to restrict myself to hackneyed ones.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:05 am

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Leafsnail wrote:
DTMaster wrote:@Leaf
Do you have a problem with the 4 votes?
Not in particular, but it seems unnecessary. The point of RVS is to get responses from people, and piling a load of votes on the same person doesn't help with that.

Piling votes on a player does get information. How could it not?

farside wrote:How many large games have you played? I ask because I see many times bw random votes day 1 many a time and I see no reason for this response.
One, I believe. As I say, in my opinion, the basic idea of the RVS is to get everyone down to the thread and talking, and all voting the same person (without even attempting to get any info from it) doesn't achieve that.
It depends on the game and reason's I have seen both bw votes on a player to get talks going and I see RQS. Where people ask random questions to players to get things going. I don't see where one is less informative and I don't see 4 votes when it takes 11 as serious (well except those of us that inn'ed for a quick lynch of SIR) But on a serious note I don't see the issue.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:06 am

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Blue wrote:
Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
Blue wrote:This Sir Cyanide bandwagon does look like a paradigmatic juncture for the mafia to quicklynch an expedient exemplary, but I concur that we should dispose of him notwithstanding.
Do you possess a polysyllabic posting restriction, good sir?
No, I'm just in a perpetual love affair with the English diction; there is a plethora of words so it would be a compunction to restrict myself to hackneyed ones.
I love you.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:11 am

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Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
Blue wrote:
Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
Blue wrote:This Sir Cyanide bandwagon does look like a paradigmatic juncture for the mafia to quicklynch an expedient exemplary, but I concur that we should dispose of him notwithstanding.
Do you possess a polysyllabic posting restriction, good sir?
No, I'm just in a perpetual love affair with the English diction; there is a plethora of words so it would be a compunction to restrict myself to hackneyed ones.
I love you.
Good, I pray you do not lynch me then when my bell tolls.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:19 am

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Probably should've noticed this earlier! /confirm
I think I'm back. Mafiascum just became 20% cooler in 10 seconds flat.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:26 am

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Oh, Blue, love has no effect on my Mafia game. But I'll always love you!

(Alternate comedy answer: Ask not for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. But only if you're scum.)


I'll stop now.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:30 am

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Would now be an appropriate time to start singing "For Whom the Bells Toll?"
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I don't have an opinion, everything is great.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:52 am

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No. Besides, I already said I'd stop. It won't help if
you
start.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:57 am

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@Blue: Where is this agreement?
@Leafsnail: Six votes is hardly "everyone voting him [Sir Cyanide]". Do you find anything scummy about any of the votes?
@Shattered: Why the unvote?
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:22 am

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@Farside - it's just the way I'm used to playing, I guess. Two RVs on someone aren't really very different from one RV.

@Konawa - I suppose I missed "of you" after the "all" in that sentence, but I would've thought context made it obvious I wasn't saying everyone was voting him. I'd like to know why you made up this quote, however.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:29 am

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I did not make any quote up.
Leafsnail, post 49 wrote:One, I believe. As I say, in my opinion, the basic idea of the RVS is to get everyone down to the thread and talking,
and all voting the same person
(without even attempting to get any info from it) doesn't achieve that.
You saying the above is equivalent, in my mind, to what I paraphrased [everyone voting him]. Do you find anyone scummy for any of their votes?
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:42 am

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It is not equivalent. In my post it referred to the four people who had voted SIR CYANIDE, while in your "paraphrasing" it referred to the twenty people who are playing this game.

As for scumminess - not particularly. It isn't like the scum's going to try overly hard get an 11 to lynch bandwagon rolling from the very start of the day (and the third and fourht votes were truly random, anyway). I regarded it more as just pointless play.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:50 am

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Leafsnail wrote:Not in particular, but it seems unnecessary. The point of RVS is to get responses from people, and piling a load of votes on the same person doesn't help with that.
Um. If you think that this BW isn't helping, why are you just critising about the wagon and not doing anything to actively scum hunt "in the correct way". You aren't doing a good job at leading by example here if you think this method is wrong.

Again: If you find something pointless about said wagon good sir:
Leaf wrote:As for scumminess - not particularly. It isn't like the scum's going to try overly hard get an 11 to lynch bandwagon rolling from the very start of the day (and the third and fourht votes were truly random, anyway). I regarded it more as just pointless play.
I dislike how you handle this situation. I see more complaints from a 3 page RVS stage, and less questioning/discussion being generated by the player who finds this pointless. Also....
Leaf wrote:One, I believe. As I say, in my opinion, the basic idea of the RVS is to get everyone down to the thread and talking, and all voting the same person (without even attempting to get any info from it) doesn't achieve that.
Um, and we aren't discussion right now? I'm sorry: point/case taken from the fact we are discussing right now
which, by the way, began from your stance with this wagon
. :3 I rest my case.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:03 am

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I suppose I should have been clearer in post 61.
When I stated that six people is hardly everyone voting Sir Cyanide, I was more referring to the point that at the time of your post 49 there had been votes on other people besides Sir Cyanide.

Also, for how much hatred there was for Sir Cyanide in the sign-up thread, I am pretty confident that scum would find this an easy wagon to hide behind. I can not discern anything from the six voting Sir Cyanide at this point, but it just something I am keeping my eye on.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:47 am

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Leafsnail wrote: As for scumminess - not particularly. It isn't like the scum's going to try overly hard get an 11 to lynch bandwagon rolling from the very start of the day (and the third and fourht votes were truly random, anyway). I regarded it more as just pointless play.
Why the concern about a bw vote? Do you really believe that voting people at random gets response any faster? Why?
Players respond to pressure. Those pushing the wagon that was more of a joke (or in my case a personality clash) then it still promotes discussion.
So how is it pointless in comparison to RVS?
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:51 am

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[quote="dtmaster"Um, and we aren't discussion right now? I'm sorry: point/case taken from the fact we are discussing right now which, by the way, began from your stance with this wagon . :3 I rest my case.[/quote]
Fair enough. I'll bear this in mind in future.
farside wrote:Why the concern about a bw vote? Do you really believe that voting people at random gets response any faster? Why?
Well, my logic was that RVing different people would get responses from more people. Therefore I thought placing lots of them on one person would be less productive. Also... it's what I'm used to, I suppose.
farside wrote:So how is it pointless in comparison to RVS?
It gets a response from one person rather than four. Although I guess I defeated my own logic by responding to it :\.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:27 pm

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The random number generator wrote:There were 20 items in your list. Here they are, randomized with pregenerated randomization based on persistent identifer http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... postdays=0&:

1. 5. Richard Massive
2. 15. Shadow Dancer
3. 12. Leafsnail
4. 6. the1iffi
5. 16. NavyCherub
6. 13. Blue
7. 18. Henry Hathaway
8. 7. DTMaster
9. 20. Julano
10. 4. SIR CYANIDE
11. 11. Shrinehme
12. 19. Jag Johan
13. 14. Farside
14. 3. FeFiFoFum
15. 2. Chronopie
16. 9. mehplusrawr
17. 8. konowa
18. 1. Fate
19. 17. Shattered Viewpoint
20. 10. JacobSavage
I
vote: Richard Massive


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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:36 pm

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Konowa wrote:@Shattered: Why the unvote?
I had a feeling we were about to leave the Random Stage.


What? I'm prescient at times.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:34 pm

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Chronopie wrote:random dice is random. Or broken :P
It's also safe and unhelpful.
Blue wrote:I thought we agreed on mass lynching him due to his unpleasant and anti-feminist behaviour already.
When did this happen?
Blue wrote:Also, the random number generator chose him twice (1/400 chance) which is a good enough reason for me to get rid of him immediately.
No it doesn't make him more likely to be scum.

Vote: Blue

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Konowa wrote:@Shattered: Why the unvote?
I had a feeling we were about to leave the Random Stage.
Then why haven't you placed a non-random vote?
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:57 pm

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Shrinehme wrote:
Blue wrote:I thought we agreed on mass lynching him due to his unpleasant and anti-feminist behaviour already.
When did this happen?
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... &&start=25

Check out the sign up page. A great number of players reclined from the game due to Sir Cyanide. I haven't played with him yet, but I assume that he is an unkindly player, obviously with an anti-feminist record. Nobody loses if we lynch him now, in my opinion.
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Blue wrote:Also, the random number generator chose him twice (1/400 chance) which is a good enough reason for me to get rid of him immediately.
No it doesn't make him more likely to be scum.

Vote: Blue
That was a jape and not a good enough reason to vote for me.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:42 pm

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Well of course the consequences of lynching him isn't "x loses".

That's a sneaky way to neglect the fact that it will inevitably give the Town or Scum an unfair [debatable?] advantage.

Pushing a wagon for someone whom hasn't done anything particularly scummy is a good vote to me.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:57 am

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Shrinehme wrote:Pushing a wagon for someone whom hasn't done anything particularly scummy is a good vote to me.
Ah, but if I were mafia I wouldn't be half so obvious. Because then I'd anticipate receiving votes from tunnel-vision players like yourself.

In the first round, nobody generally does anything scummy anyway. I just want to get rid of a player who is likely to cause offense.
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