Mini 954 ~ Mafia at the 11th Hour (Game Over!)

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

DDD told me in super obvious code that he is lazy scum looking for easy lynch.

And I would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for meddling Tony and his damned dog.

[Percy]

Tony told me in super secret code that he wants to be run up to L-1 so he can find out what his secret power is and I think we should oblige him.

Why do you think there is merit in voting him on these grounds?

[Porkens]

Let's give tony his power:

unvote, Vote: TonyMontana

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Tony told me in super secret code that he wants to be run up to L-1 so he can find out what his secret power is and I think we should oblige him.

Why do you think there is merit in voting him on these grounds?

Because it's better than sitting around and waiting for someone to do something scummy. I'm all ears if you've got an actual argument you want to push, but inaction at this juncture is unacceptable.

[TonyMontana]

Let's give tony his power:

unvote, Vote: TonyMontana

Almost tempted to put myself at L-1. -.-

Btw, there's no set rule that says you get abilities at L-1. The rules even say you could get your ability after dying.

Also, maybe I'd have to use it instantly.

Also, if i get a permanent ability, maybe i don't wanna be the only known powerrole going into night.

What I'm trying to say, maybe we should find scum.

[dramonic]

Maybe we've no reason to believe you're town?

[TonyMontana]

Maybe "we" should join my wagon then?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

What I'm trying to say, maybe we should find scum.

I don't see anyone stopping you from doing just that...

[TonyMontana]

Already found one. See vote.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Already found one. See vote.

Well I'm convinced. Do you also have a newsletter I could subscribe to in order to be kept abreast of all your informative opinions?

[VP Baltar]

As for response to dram/VP, I'm gonna pretend the question being "Tony - was that inquiry into the seriousness of d3x's question serious?" to which i say "No"

Oh, it wasn't? What was the point of that post then?

Maybe we've no reason to believe you're town?

What's your read on Tony at the moment?

[Pomegranate]

Already found one. See vote.

Except I found it first.

[dramonic]

Maybe "we" should join my wagon then?

Maybe we've no reason to believe you're scum either?

null-read.

[Porkens]

am I already voting for dramonic?

unvote; Vote: Dramonic

only way to be sure.

[Seraphim]

@Seraphim: did you switch votes because Percy posted? Was your Percy vote, and now Tony vote, made because they were lurking? Do you think lurking is scummy?

I am personally of the opinion that lurking is a nulltell. I did in fact switch votes because Percy posted, yes. My vote was because they hadn't entered the game. The votes were not serious and were because my attempt to seriously start the game failed and I felt I needed to do something.

That being said, I don't see scum anywhere except for maybe Porkens who wants to run Tony to L-1 to try and unlock his ability.

On that note:

Unvote
Vote: Porkens

[Porkens]

why is that scummy?

[Seraphim]

I have no idea. Trying to out his power to kill him later or something?

It's not much of a conviction to be sure but I don't see any scum right now and I might as well question someone.

[Jahudo]

Seraphim, did you notice Porkens had changed his vote before you posted a few minutes after him?

Porkens wasn't under pressure to switch his vote, and in fact had an opportunity to try and pressure dramonic onto the wagon, but chose to switch. So I don't see his voting as opportunistic.

@dramonic: is your vote on Nikanor serious?

@Pom: is your vote on DDD serious?

[dramonic]

its a serious vote.

[Pomegranate]

@Pom: is your vote on DDD serious?

Not really. I think my gut says that he's scum, but I'm pretty sure that it's mostly his avatar.

I don't like dramonic saying

Maybe we've no reason to believe you're town?

since it's mainly a random BW. Then, when asked about it by Tony, he replied

Maybe we've no reason to believe you're scum either?

null-read.

I mainly don't like this because generally, one views everyone as town, then suspects as scum, not everyone as scum, and those who redeem themselves as town. The way that dramonic says that 'we have no reason to believe you (Tony) is town, it feels like he's trying to subtly push the wagon. And the smiley makes me feel that he's trying to lighten the mood, so people will take his previous post

Unvote; Vote: dramonic

.

But maybe this is just me being particular about things.

[Vi]

Vote Count V:

- Power Grab

TonyMontana (L-4) ~ Debonair Danny DiPietro, Jahudo,

Seraphim,

VP Baltar,

Porkens

Nikanor (L-5) ~ dramonic, d3x
dramonic (L-5) ~

Porkens

, Porkens, Pomegranate
Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-6) ~

Pomegranate,

TonyMontana
Jahudo (L-6) ~ Maemuki
Percy (L-6) ~ Nikanor
VP Baltar (L-6) ~ Percy
Porkens (L-6) ~ Seraphim

d3x (L-7) ~

TonyMontana

Minimum (L-7)

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(66%)

[dramonic]

This isn't court, people don't start on a specific end of the spectrum and work their way accross.
I find it silly I'm gaining votes for that pair of comment. 'Twas just intended in good humour :p

[Nikanor]

@Nik- Is that a serious Vote?

Yes. What Percy did is exactly what I have a tendency toward doing as scum: posting "Oh, I'll catch up!" and then not actually catching up until I get prodded again. If you want, I could give about five or six examples where I do this as scum.

Seraphim is scum, though. See?

If you did, in fact, actually roll dice, why did you not use the dice tags in order to prove that you, in fact, roll dice?

See Seraphim throw dirt on DDD.

Unvote
Vote: TonyMontana

See Seraphim bandwagon without reasoning.

That being said, I don't see scum anywhere except for maybe Porkens who wants to run Tony to L-1 to try and unlock his ability.

I have no idea. Trying to out his power to kill him later or something?

See Seraphim not know why he's voting for someone.

Unvote. Vote: Seraphim.

DDD is pushing the Tony wagon pretty hard, but I don't see any reason for why he's doing it. Possible distancing? (And yes, I do realize that by the end of the game I'm probably going to have DDD down as distancing from every player in the game. I'm okay with that.)

This isn't court, people don't start on a specific end of the spectrum and work their way accross.

Thiiiiis. So much of this. Pom's vote is fail.

[Percy]

I like this post and this wagon:

Unvote, Vote: Porkens

I think DDD's "vote for TM, maybe he'll get abilities!" took all the pressure out of the wagon, and Porkens jumped on for no other reason than the one DDD proposed. I think it was a scummy move (and a poor reason to put anyone at L-1).

I mainly don't like this because generally, one views everyone as town, then suspects as scum, not everyone as scum, and those who redeem themselves as town.

Going to have to disagree with you here. Everyone else has a better chance of being scum than I do, so I try to see everyone as scum unless I have been given reason not to. Guilty until proven innocent.
(Which is to say, I kinda agree with you about dramonic, but for different reasons; however, this gets too close to playstyle criticism for it to be a good scumtell for me.)

[Nikanor]

@Mod: Prod Maemuki, please.

Done. ~Vi