Mini 971: Princess bride - They all lived .......

[Jack]

Okay, this has officially turned into a distraction.
Let's get back to the point.
Jack: What are your good reasons for lynching Sensfan?

I'll tell you when he gets enough votes. One of them has to do with not being upfront about it, sorry.

[animorpherv1]

FOS: DDD

I found all the scum. Sens, DDD and Parama.

Wrong. It's ekiM, Mac, and Animorph.

If I'm right, I posess the right to quicklynch you in every game from now on.

Also, Mac = Jack are town.

[SensFan]

Okay, this has officially turned into a distraction.
Let's get back to the point.
Jack: What are your good reasons for lynching Sensfan?

I'll tell you when he gets enough votes. One of them has to do with not being upfront about it, sorry.

How many votes do I need?

Unvote, Vote: Sens

[MacavityLock]

Towniest self-vote I ever saw.

Kmd, I'm have no problem with your current ekiM read.

[Jack]

2 more votes.

[Jack]

Towniest self-vote I ever saw.

Not in the slightest. Townie seeming self votes tend to come from newish VI's who meltdown.

[farside22]

Grandpa: She doesn't get eaten by the eels at this time
The Grandson: What?
Grandpa: The eel doesn't get her. I'm explaining to you because you look nervous.
The Grandson: I wasn't nervous. Maybe I was a little bit "concerned" but that's not the same thing.

vote count:

bv310 (1) wolframnhart
Parama (2), Steam Powered Shovel, ekiM
Jack (1) Parama
SensFan (5) bv310, curiouskarmadog, animorpherv1, Jack, SensFan
ekiM (1) Kmd4390
Shovel (1) MacavityLock

Not voting:

Debonair Danny DiPietro

Deadline is May 26th, 2:10pm PST
With 12 alive it will take 7 to lynch

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

2 more votes.

Two more votes is lynch, so you'll tell us the reasons for lynching Sens after we've already lynched him. Yeah, that's probably not going to work for me so much.

[Jack]

Are you implying that you would be ok with 1 more vote? Since you specifically object to 2 more votes but say nothing about 1 more vote.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Are you implying that you would be ok with 1 more vote? Since you specifically object to 2 more votes but say nothing about 1 more vote.

Since there is a functional difference of dead (2 votes) versus not dead (1 vote), yes.

[Jack]

The chance of a quickhammer does not concern you then.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

The chance of a quickhammer does not concern you then.

If you weren't voting for Sens already I might worry about it from you because of the position you've staked out, but no I don't think anyone would be aggressive/dumb enough to quickhammer.

[Jack]

Jeez, state an opinion on Sens already.

[ekiM]

Never seen a miller claim before. I feel like ML would want to discuss making a fake claim with his team first, and there wasn't much time before the game started. So I'm inclined to believe him.

I don't agree with Sensfan's vote on ML, but I don't see why it's scummy. Some people do like to lynch millers D1. This is where meta would be useful, to know how Sens has reacted to miller claims before.

No idea if Jack is serious about wanting a quicklynch. Actually, no idea what Jack is doing at all. That's his MO. Not going to quicklynch someone on someone else just asking, though.

So, Parama. He asks people to vote him at the start so he can OMGUS. That's removing information about whom he chooses to go after. "Let's not worry about the miller claim, we should scumhunt" then... doesn't scumhunt. And spams a page arguing about meta. Fine with this vote.

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

Never seen a miller claim before. I feel like ML would want to discuss making a fake claim with his team first, and there wasn't much time before the game started. So I'm inclined to believe him.

Why would he need a team to be scum?

I'm fine with the millerclaim.

Jack, you're useless.

Still like my Paramavote. Wolframnhart, with me!

[ekiM]

There's not necessarily just one scum faction but it's a reasonable assumption until we see evidence to the contrary. Also, if he's lone scum then he's putting his whole game on the line assuming this isn't the kind of town that likes lynching claimed millers.

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

It would also help him avoid the nightkill though.

Not to mention that as a SK you wouldn't be letting your partners down if you screwed up.

[curiouskarmadog]

I believe the Miller claim, that being said I have seen Kubai Khan (sp?) do the exact same thing as scum....so by claiming Miller, most likely menas ML wont see the end of game. But that was just the luck of the draw, claiming miller was the right move (if he really is a miller). ML is not the lynch today....however, that isnt a pass for the whole game (but you should know that).

Sens is useless...I have never been in a game with him that he was anything but. Was hoping that his time away from mafiascum his playstyle had changed. But no...lurky (in other games)....gets replaced out of games only to sign up for new ones...and now a self vote.

all that aside, do i think Sensscum would self vote? Yeah...i think he would. Just as much as I think he would as town.

I am fine with my vote right now.....

[Parama]

So, Parama. He asks people to vote him at the start so he can OMGUS. That's removing information about whom he chooses to go after. "Let's not worry about the miller claim, we should scumhunt" then... doesn't scumhunt. And spams a page arguing about meta. Fine with this vote.

Oh dear god.
Asking for votes so I can OMGUS = RVS FFS.
And yes, ignoring miller claims for now is a good idea. Look how distracting they are.
And I didn't want to spam a page arguing about meta but since nobody agrees with me, it happened.
Find real reasons to vote please, instead of trying to hold onto an RVS vote.

[SensFan]

ckd, I did lurk in 1 game since I got back, and was not replaced in it.

Unvote, Vote: Jack

First you say you had reasons that needed more votes on me, now you claim you just want a lynch on no reason.

[curiouskarmadog]

ckd, I did lurk in 1 game since I got back, and was not replaced in it.

why would you lie about this? Me thinks you are trying to goad me into talking about an ongoing game with similiar sitautions....my vote stays, there is no protown reason for you to a.) lie or b.) try to goad me.

[curiouskarmadog]

also Sens, why are you avoiding your "policy lynch" of claimed millers?

[curiouskarmadog]

ckd, I did lurk in 1 game since I got back, and was not replaced in it.

why would you lie about this? Me thinks you are trying to goad me into talking about an ongoing game with similiar sitautions....my vote stays, there is no protown reason for you to a.) lie or b.) try to goad me.

edit: are you saying you have not been replaced in any game since you have been back?

[Kmd4390]

Kmd, I'm have no problem with your current ekiM read.

Do you see ekiM as scum? Why is Shovel scummier?

I'm inclined to believe him.

people like you make me want to fakeclaim miller one game...

I don't agree with Sensfan's vote on ML, but I don't see why it's scummy. Some people do like to lynch millers D1. This is where meta would be useful, to know how Sens has reacted to miller claims before.

No idea if Jack is serious about wanting a quicklynch. Actually, no idea what Jack is doing at all. That's his MO. Not going to quicklynch someone on someone else just asking, though.

These stances seem to give you an out either way. Basically you are saying Sens is wrong, not necessarily scum, but meta could help get that read. And pretty much IIOA on Jack. Oh, he's doing something. Not sure what. Not gonna say he's town or scum.

The only real read you give is on Parama, and it's pretty much crap. He random voted the wrong way then commented a few times on something that he feels strongly enough about that it is in his sig? That's why he's scum? You can do better than this.

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Hmm. New theory. Mac is town, Steam is scum. Too bad the game that makes me think this is ongoing.

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Will people stop talking about the miller claim? There's no "he's town because of the claim" or "he's scum because of the claim". It is right to claim because now he doesn't waste a potential cop's investigation and he doesn't look bad claiming miller after a guilty result, but our read on him needs to come from his play, not his miller claim.

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In other news, Sens might be scum. Meta.

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So the scum team is ekiM, Shovel, and Sens.

[Parama]

Wait why the hell didn't I

unvote, vote: ekiM

in my previous post?
*derp*