/in-vitational Game 8 - Nito City (over) after 1015

[Incognito]

Vote Count #1 of Day 1

ChannelDelibird (1) <-~ Zajnet
Locke Lamora (1) <-~ farside22
Porochaz (1) <-~ Charlie
Sotty7 (2) <-~ Locke Lamora, Zachrulez
Charlie (1) <-~ ChannelDelibird
MagnaofIllusion (1) <-~ imkingdavid
Zachrulez (1) <-~ Sotty7
Zajnet (2) <-~ MagnaofIllusion, Porochaz
imkingdavid (1) <-~ Jack
Jack (1) <-~ Sando

12 living; 7 will do it.

Deadline:

Monday, August 16th at 12 A.M. EST

[Jack]

See? I am in no way rolefishing, yet you see how easy it is to turn my words around and make it seem like I am? It's such an easy accusation to make, it's made for scum, especially early game.

UNVOTE, VOTE:SANDO

NOT SO FAST SCUM

Do you deny that putting pressure on someone who is protesting that they are being rolefished is a form of rolefishing (intentional or not)? Because who most often protests at being rolefished? Town pr's. What leads to claims from town pr's? Votes, wagons, acting like they are scummy for balking at being rolefished. That's like a big sign saying "EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHY YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE BEING ROLEFISHED" AKA "ROLE CLAIM PLEASE".

tHE bs scum theory "oh scum love to make easy accusations on page one, anyone doing that is scum duh duh" is just icing on the cake.

[Porochaz]

This is a ridiculous argument, Im not even sure Jack is being serious but

vote Jack

anyway, I do not see any rolefishing.

[imkingdavid]

I do not see any rolefishing.

^this.

[Sotty7]

Jack, are you being serious?

[Jack]

Are you guys blind? Why aren't you voting sando?

[Sotty7]

Unvote, Vote: Jack

[Jack]

Unvote, Vote: Jack

Good call, and after a claim is forced out of me your going to be like *innocent* "well it was just an

rvs vote

you know" *innocent*

fos:Sotty

cat got your tongue aka scum can't think of anything to say

[Porochaz]

You aren't really reacting to votes very well, are you?

[Sotty7]

It's not an RVS vote, why would you think that? I clearly asked you a serious question about being serious. You seriously replied and I seriously voted.

...Seriously.

[Sotty7]

If you want to point out exactly how IKD was rolefishing I'm willing to listen, but right now you are either:

A) Seriously making a mountain out of a molehill, which is scummy and earns my vote.

or

B) Playing some kind of early gambit to draw votes.

[Jack]

If you want to point out exactly how IKD was rolefishing I'm willing to listen, but right now you are either:

Can't you see how that's a terrible idea? Jesus, with one hand, then the other.

[imkingdavid]

I don't understand Jack at this point. I don't see what he talking about as far as rolefishing (and when he is asked about it, he says "Are you blind?" instead of answering the question). I am almost wanting to think that he being obscure on purpose... but it all just seems odd to me.

Good call, and after a claim is forced out of me your going to be like *innocent* "well it was just an rvs vote you know" *innocent*

I don't see how anyone could interpret Sotty7's vote against you as an RVS vote, given the circumstances surrounding it, so this appeal to emotion is highly suspect.
And why are you even worried about claiming already? You only have... 2 votes on you, unless I'm missing something.

[farside22]

Don't rolefish.

Vote: Jack

First to accuse of rolefishing is scum.

And yes I'm serious, rolefishing is one of those accusations that is incredibly easy and safe to make as scum because it is seen as one of the most anti-town thing you can do and it is very easy to make a fairly innocuous statement look like rolefishing.

You obviously never played with Jack. I dubbed him the person to always do something scummy for reaction purposes. It's why I like playing with him. He gets the game going that way.

[farside22]

So far I have Jack and Imkingdavid as town. The jury is out on Porochaz but gut reaction is not favorable.
Sotty will you have me hitting my head on the table this game or do you really think Jack is scum?
Actually I really want to vote Porochaz. I don't like his reaction or reason's for voting for Jack. He's asking Jack if he is serious and then lays on an easy bw vote that looks crappy.

Unvote:
vote: Porochaz

[Porochaz]

Meh its only a getting us out of the RVS vote, Im latching onto something. Whether he is joking or not, there is no rolefishing there,

[Jack]

I don't see how anyone could interpret Sotty7's vote against you as an RVS vote, given the circumstances surrounding it, so this appeal to emotion is highly suspect.

Of course it wasn't, that was my point. She was going to pretend it was.

[Porochaz]

You want to play with me, then you tell me my vote is crappy... You realise you have hurt me with your language... to portray you will be getting a sad face at the end of your username every time I need to post it until I forget to portray how I am hurting inside, farside:(

[farside22]

You want to play with me, then you tell me my vote is crappy... You realise you have hurt me with your language... to portray you will be getting a sad face at the end of your username every time I need to post it until I forget to portray how I am hurting inside, farside:(

Hey I call a spade a spade. You should know that about me by now.
What did you think of imking and sotty in the exchange and what they had to say?

[Porochaz]

Imkingdavid is fine, he seems confused at first then he makes a good point in his latest post.

Sotty doesn't have a good post thus far. Particularly the first 3, a vote with no explanation, a seriously gimmicky serious post and a stupid question.

[Charlie]

I'm interested to see the effect of increased pressure on Sando to see how he responds.

UNVOTE: Porochaz
VOTE: Sando

[farside22]

I'm interested to see the effect of increased pressure on Sando to see how he responds.

UNVOTE: Porochaz
VOTE: Sando

Do you know something about Sando and how he will react? What info will it give you. either way?

@Poro: I have seen Jack do some pretty well less then stellar moments for reaction. I don't see what he stated that deserved a vote. Usually I read you as a pretty intelligent person when analysis a player and their motives that's why I question your vote more on Jack then anyone right at this moment.

[ChannelDelibird]

Jack looks pretty much exactly like he did in (I believe) the only previous game I've played with him, where he was town.

Keeping my vote on Charlie, saying "this vote is to increase pressure" ensures that you add exactly no pressure.

[Charlie]

Do you know something about Sando and how he will react? What info will it give you. either way?

No, it is an argument between Jack and Sando. I'm taking one side and seeing how it goes and nothing else.

Jack looks pretty much exactly like he did in (I believe) the only previous game I've played with him, where he was town.

Keeping my vote on Charlie, saying "this vote is to increase pressure" ensures that you add exactly no pressure.

This is true but when a wagon forms quickly and largely enough, then reactions are gained. These are analyzed to form conclusions.

[Sotty7]

I don't think there is any role fishing so I think my vote is a good one. Do I think it is Jack being Jack, sure. Right now I don't have a better place for my vote.