Mini 1023 - City Watch Mafia - Game Over!

[TheButtonmen]

Greetings Plum, Budja and Thor good to see you all agian.

Vote: FakeGod

The "Wait for me!" VOTE COUNT

jimfinn (2): Tasky, Plum
Plum (1): VasudeVa
Thor665 (1): KHG
VasudeVa (1): jimfinn
Tasky (1): Budja
FakeGod (1): TheButtonmen

Not Voting (5): Chronopie, Narsis, FakeGod, Mysterio, Thor665

With 12 alive, 7 votes are needed to lynch.

[Thor665]

Obligatory greeting post.

Vote: jimfinn

I'll make up the reason of voting him because he doesn't read Mr. Pratchett's novels.
In reality I just want an early bandwagon and now we've got a three vote one, go, go, wagon of win.

[Chronopie]

Hai to Budja, Plum, VV, and Fakegod.

VOTE: jimfinn for a lack of caps in his username. (fyi:

F

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G

od and

T

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B

uttonmen would also have fit the non-consecutive caps vote reason.)

[jimfinn]

Wait what? I have four votes? This seems suspicious, so I'll

unvote vote:Thor

for being the third vote on a wagon. Major scumtell.

[Plum]

That seems like such a canned scumtell that I am immediately satisfied with my RVS skillz.

[Chronopie]

jimfinn's generic wiki-scumtell is noted.

[jimfinn]

Wait, reading the wiki for scumtells is bad? How are you supposed to learn to scumhunt?

[Plum]

He

is

pretty new. However.

Jim, in your own words, why do you consider a player being third on a wagon a scumtell?

[FakeGod]

Will join wagons for food.

Vote: jimfinn

"Ice cream."

[TheButtonmen]

That seems like such a canned scumtell that I am immediately satisfied with my RVS skillz.

Truly they be some mad skillz.

I however am content with my RVS vote and may I add that the FakeGod wagon is spacious, luxurious and serves complimentary breakfasts?

[Plum]

Dang that is a good offer. If I'm hungry come breakfast time I might look into it.

[TheButtonmen]

Hurray!

Also would anyone here care to share if they are an alt and/or hydra?

[jimfinn]

I would say that scum wants to increase the number of people on a wagon in order to create pressure on a player, in the hopes that they make an exploitable mistake, yet when that player flips town, they will note be blamed for the lynch. With seven to lynch, 3rd vote is not to blame, but starts the ball rolling (same could be said of 4th, I suppose). One or two votes in RVS is not suspicious, but the third and fourth votes are (at least to my understanding).

[Plum]

Yeah, but don't Townies also want to create pressure on players to try to figure out if they're scum or not, especially when there's no other information to analyze?

[TheButtonmen]

What do you think of Thor explicitly stating he voted you to get the ball rolling?

[jimfinn]

Generally, wouldn't town want more discussion before starting a quick wagon, especially in a 12-player game (as opposed to 7 or 9)?

[TheButtonmen]

Yeah, but don't Townies also want to create pressure on players to try to figure out if they're scum or not, especially when there's no other information to analyze?

Leading question is leading.

[jimfinn]

EBWOPDTCOT: I would say that to get the ball rolling would be a reasonable thing for scum or town to say, and is thus a null-tell.

[FakeGod]

@Button: your avi is terrifying.

Random Trivia

: I never miss with Random Lynches, but

if and only if

the town follows me blindly

without

reason or logic.

Preview: I would think in a smaller game (7 or 9) you would want more discussion since it's easier to accidentally lynch someone (due to smaller number of people required to lynch).

[jimfinn]

@TBM: What does #41 mean? Sorry, confused by it.

[jimfinn]

@Fake: Alert players wouldn't accidentally lynch, and a wagon is much easier in a smaller game to shift as necessary.

[TheButtonmen]

Leading question into seeming change of opinion makes me all sad.

I would say that scum wants to increase the number of people on a wagon in order to create pressure on a player, in the hopes that they make an exploitable mistake, yet when that player flips town, they will note be blamed for the lynch. With seven to lynch, 3rd vote is not to blame, but starts the ball rolling (same could be said of 4th, I suppose).

EBWOPDTCOT: I would say that to get the ball rolling would be a reasonable thing for scum or town to say, and is thus a null-tell.

Please explain how Thor being the third vote is major scum tell yet getting the ball rolling is a null tell.

[jimfinn]

The vote itself is the tell - because it has an inherent blamelessness should town lynch wrong. The reason for the vote would be a good way for scum to act town, or for town to act town. Basically, the vote itself is the scumtell, the reason provided is a null-tell

[Plum]

Yeah, but don't Townies also want to create pressure on players to try to figure out if they're scum or not, especially when there's no other information to analyze?

Leading question is leading.

Newb Town is makes me want to tear my hair out. Let this run its course a bit; I think I can still analyze it despite leading question.

EDIT - Jim. Which vote in this game has been the most suspect and why?

SECOND EDIT: Jim, please start making with the sense.

[Thor665]

EBWOPDTCOT: I would say that to get the ball rolling would be a reasonable thing for scum or town to say, and is thus a null-tell.

Edit by way of purple dinosaur that can't ogle teenagers? You're a sick, sick man and need to be lynched in order to protect the Guild of Seamstresses.

I am fascinated by the concept that all 3rd votes are scummy - should make it much easier to scumhunt in the future.

As long as you're on the Wiki check out OMGUS next.

@Plum - I am really sad now, I'm already in a lot of Newbie games and now I have to try to translate newb tells in this one too. If you're trying to ed-ju-ma-cate the lad why art thou still voting him?