Mafia on Holy Orders (Game Over!)

[zwetschenwasser]

Friend = townish

[animorpherv1]

@Friend:

Yet you don't point it out when Furcolow says everyone who accuses him is scum? I smell hypocrisy.

[Furcolow]

Friend = townish

agree zwetch
zwetch=townish?

[Friend]

Furcolow = VI

ani =/= VI

HUGE difference there. That's not exactly what Furc's doing either, by the way.

[Furcolow]

Animorpher, 17/21 posts of yours have been about me, or concerning me. Get my name outcha mouth.

[Furcolow]

Can the town really let someone tunnel to that extreme?

[Sebguer]

Mod: I'm V/LA for 2 days or so, apologies. The internet in my new apartment is absolute crap and I've just been feeling pretty craptastic.

[Furcolow]

deja vu

[animorpherv1]

Freidn, when I called Furc scum, jhe called me scum. When vezo caleld him scum, Furc called vezo scum (for four posts that add no value to the game), and then, when Socio called him scum, he decided that SocioPath is sucm.

Tell me it's not the same thing.

[zwetschenwasser]

inability to quote = zwet anger
furcolow < sane
furcolow < cleared
ani < cleared <> bus fur/ani possible

[animorpherv1]

I can't qute catch this post Restriction.

[Furcolow]

he has to make logical points and end up at a conclusion
he also has to use ergo to finalize his points when he is voting
i am saddened to think that he does not find me to be town, because i am not scum

[Furcolow]

zwetch, who are your top 3 suspects?

[animorpherv1]

in order, preferrably.

[Wraith]

@ani: He can only post in complete sentences once every 20 posts. I believe his post style is his own invention.

@Friend: I don't think Beefster is town, I'm just not convinced he's scum. Yet.

[AGar]

What fence? I say Beefster's come along, said what basically amounts to nothing about Furcolow and Friend and then thrown out some pointless battery-powered deadline speculation, when it's explained in the first post. And now here he goes again with post restrictions. He says that he thinks at least one of Furcolow and Friend are scum, but votes for me, and what is 'at least I've tried' supposed to mean? Do scum not try? So no, I'm not voting for the sake of voting, I'm voting because I think Beefster's scum.

You came in, said "That looks like posting for the sake of posting" and voted. Your vote looked like voting for the sake of voting. You had no real reasoning behind it. I'm posting for the sake of posting right now. Everyone posts for the sake of posting in this game, because no one has a gun to our head saying "post or die." Your logic was spectacularly awful and you're now coming up with reasons (which suck, btw).

Scum don't try? Man, I've been doing it wrong in all of my games. But you're not trying. So are you admitting to be scum?

I feel scum.
How can you vote after 4 votes in random?
I voted furcolow. I provided 114 for scum meta.
Wraith and Agar are probably scums.

unvote vote Agar

- I can vote whenever I damn well please. There is no time-table for random voting. None. There is no "There must be X random votes before real votes can be placed clause" and the only people who benefit from extended RVS are scum.

- You voted for Furcolow, and THEN, after calling it a random vote mind you, provided shitty meta from a game where he replaced in and then out before a flip. Your "meta" was he played bad and then replaced out as he was about to be lynched. Funny, I remember playing 2 days with his replacement.

- Got any WIFOM with your OMGUS?

Geez, 8 pages. I am disliking ani's push for furclowe on policy. Seems forced to me.

unvote, vote animorpherv1

8 pages and that's all you've got? Are you intent on playing the game, or will you do us a favor and request replacement? RTFT, play, or get lynched.

What's the scum motivation for defending Beefster?

Either they're scumbuddies or he's distancing himself from a possible mislynch to gain "town cred" if Beefster indeed is town.

Or... he doesn't think it's a good lynch? Why does every time someone opposes a lynch have to be scum-driven? Should all townies mindlessly bandwagon based off of what one or two people say?

Furc and Ani need to get the fuck over whatever is bugging them, because they're drowning out the thread with useless bullshit. "OMG IT'S UR FAULT WE LOST PAST GAME XXX!" "NO, AND IT WAS TOTALLY UR FAULT WE MISLYNCHED IN LYLO IN PAST GAME YYYY!!!!"

Nobody gives a damn, and if you're really that upset about it and don't want the other player to live on, REPLACE OUT. No one is forcing anyone to play this game, and Ani's constant tunneling and ignoring the rest of the game because he made a bad decision in LYLO against Furc for apparent bad play is getting really old, really quick. How about this Ani, we policy lynch you instead so you can't make bad decisions in LYLO?

Start actually playing the game and quit the tunneling on Furcolow and taking everything someone else says about him and using it to build your "case" on him, then reverting to call it a policy lynch.

[Friend]

Or... he doesn't think it's a good lynch? Why does every time someone opposes a lynch have to be scum-driven? Should all townies mindlessly bandwagon based off of what one or two people say?

I was going to make an EBWOP to this effect, but I didn't feel like it. Plum asked me for the SCUM MOTIVATION behind defending Beefster. So, I was assuming that Socrates was scum in that response, which I'm not saying is true.

@Ani:

Furcolow = VI

ani =/= VI

HUGE difference there.

He's also not just saying "here's scum: x, y, z," with those players happening to be the ones who suspected him. He's using reasons, however poor as they may be (and they are quite poor) to "prove" why players x, y, and z are scum.

[animorpherv1]

Ok, yeah, I guess I should give reasons.

mothrax - For basically confessiong to not reading the thread and posting a vote on me.

You - for supporting the Furcolow wagon for "pressure", yet apparently not being on it.

Furcolow - I've stated this before, haven't I?

[Vi]

Vote Count II

~ A game of logic

Beefster (L-4) ~ Locke Lamora, Friend, Iecerint, zwetschenwasser, Furcolow

animorpherv1 (L-6) ~ Wraith, Fate, mothrax
Furcolow (L-7) ~ animorpherv1,

AGar, vezokpiraka,

Sebguer
Friend (L-7) ~ Socrates, Plum
Locke Lamora (L-8) ~

Furcolow,

Beefster
Iecerint (L-8) ~ SocioPath
Sebguer (L-8) ~ pacman
vezokpiraka (L-8) ~ AGar
AGar (L-8) ~ vezokpiraka

Wraith (L-9) ~

zwetschenwasser

zwetschenwasser (L-9) ~

mothrax

Not Voting:

Fate, zwetschenwasser, Beefster

-The smell of smoke surrounds mothrax as of Post 184...

--With 17 alive, it will take 9 to lynch.

Battery power:

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[Friend]

Ani, read the fucking thread or shut up, please. I've explained my position on the Furc wagon many times and that's not my stance on it ATM. You're sheeping, skimming, tunneling, suggesting policy lynches...it's all scummy to me.

vote: animorpherv1

Beefster is still suspicious.

[Friend]

Geez, 8 pages. I am disliking ani's push for furclowe on policy. Seems forced to me.

unvote, vote animorpherv1

By the way, this gave mothrax smoke. Any connections to ani's?

[AGar]

Quick speculation: Smoke suggests contribution that Vi does not determine to be genuine, leading to a battery power-down. Policy lynches provide nothing for the game, nor did Mothrax in 184.

Ani, convenient of you to continue on with your policy lynch, only in this most recent post, it's now because Furc is scum.

[animorpherv1]

why in every game am I surrounded by idiots?

[Socrates]

OK, so, @ Soc, your bit about BS doesn't make much sense to me. I'm going to summarize it as I read it so that I can show me where I am wrong:

There are 2 ways scum can seem scummy:

A) By accident
B) On purpose

You agreed with me when I said BS wasn't intentionally a crap player, so the question is whether he is scummy by accident. But it isn't an accident because he does it (?????).

So...are you basically saying "BS is VI"?

Also, I think we talked past one another on the first part -- I thought you were asking whether I thought BS was a player like Furco who deliberately plays with a scummy style.

I can see where you're coming from in the paragraph about Friend, though.

Saying "so and so is a VI" is an oversimplification of my argument. I don't feel like continuing this discussion much further, so I will just restate this as simply as possible.

I don't believe there has been sufficient justification that Beefster wouldn't do what he is doing if he was town, nor do I believe there is any significant scum benefit to his play.

Last time we had this argument you were scum voting for a townie. :/

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I would bet very strong money that the smoke and light stuff comes from our two mystery players.

[Friend]

I think you're probably right, I didn't even think about that. Those players are...sottyrulez and who? Maybe the smoke is scummy reads and the light is town reads from the players? Just a thought, it's probably not good to speculate anyways.