Mini 1034 - Castlevania Mafia (Game Over)

[zwetschenwasser]

I don't understand what you mean, though. Don't we all come from castlevania?

[zwetschenwasser]

All I know is that I'm Jonathan Morris and my role, which I will not claim just yet.

[UncertainKitten]

There are a lot of castlevania games. I've seen a lot of "HEY! YOU SHOULD CLAIM YOUR ORIGIN" plays in theme games a lot. I decided to pre empt them by asking about the general thoughts so I could get some theory information as well as slight intent. Also it got things moving a little.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: so, essentially, what I'm asking is do you think claiming game of origin is a good idea, and why or why not?

[zwetschenwasser]

bad b/c speculation allowance for scum

[UncertainKitten]

Well, it seems a majority are against origin claim. This is a good thing.

My own arguments against it would be that it's only town benefit is trapping people in their claims from the start. I fully believe the mod would provide fakeclaims in a theme like this. It doesn't benefit the scum a whole lot either, but generally so early on, the less public info the better. Later on in the game D1 is a good day to look back at for people who have information they shouldn't.

Between his experience and his response, I have determined Dekes is likely town unless it's demonstrated that scum do actually have fakeclaims. Other responses were mostly neutral to slightly townie. I'll hit each one tomorrow when I'm a little less tired, since there were some I wanted to ask more about.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: DON'T actually have fakeclaims. Not do.

[zwetschenwasser]

I'm all for lynching coach travis for his reaction to my fakeclaim.

[tanstalas]

I'm town. and I'm not a lyncher. and coach travis's reaction means bandwagoning scum.

Unvote; Vote: Coach Travis

This is the best tell I have so far for a real vote

Unvote
Vote: Coach Travis

[zwetschenwasser]

and his bussing partner right here^

[tanstalas]

and his bussing partner right here^

Believe what you want to believe. However your comment makes me wary of you now

[zwetschenwasser]

^OMGUS

Unvote; Vote: tanstalas

[UncertainKitten]

/me sighs

Let us play the "How does that benefit scum" game :O!

Question: How does jumping on the Travis wagon benefit scum?
Question: How does the claim of being wary of you benefit scum?

[zwetschenwasser]

irrelevancies

[UncertainKitten]

Oh? It's irrelevant to catch scum doing what benefits scum? Sounds a lot like you aren't hunting scum but easy targets. And that DOES benefit scum ^-^.

/me bares her teeth as she grins at zwet

I hope you wouldn't be trying to benefit scum, would you?

[zwetschenwasser]

irrelevant

[VasudeVa]

I think I've seen this before from zwet. Hey zwet, were you in Twilight Mafia where you claimed Edward D1? (If you must know, I read that game because it was lulz).

Anyway, zwet's gambit makes sense however it does not necessarily reflect his alignment. I don't think I've seen proof/statistics that fakeclaim gambits are more likely to come from Town/scum.

UK, I do not understand why theory knowledge would ever reflect a person's alignment. From what I'm seeing, what you're doing is more like testing people. You'll find out how good he is at mafia, but not if he's scum or not. Of course, I'm waiting on your own explanations. I also do not understand your point for Dekes. It's unprovable whether or not scum have fake claims so the 'He's Town unless scum have fakeclaims' clause is kinda silly.

Zwet, you're kinda jumping the gun here hopping from Coach to tansalas. What gives?

[Kdub]

Vote Count

LynchMePls (0)

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drmyshottyizsik (2)

- Katsuki, LynchMePls

jenniwren (0)

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UncertainKitten (1)

- McGriddle

MehPlusRawr (0)

-

Katsuki (1)

- Dekes

Dekes (0)

-

Coach Travis (2)

- jenniwren, tanstalas

zwetschenwasser (2)

- UncertainKitten, Coach Travis

McGriddle (1)

- VasudeVa

VasudeVa (0)

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tanstalas (1)

- zwetschenwasser

No Lynch (0)

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Not Voting (2)

- drmyshottyizsik, MehPlusRawr

12 votes available, 7 votes needed to lynch.

Deadline is September 16, ~ 9 am PDT.

[tanstalas]

^OMGUS

Unvote; Vote: tanstalas

No. What YOU just did was OMGUS, I just stated that I was wary of you now, and am wary of everyone since I do not know who is scum and who is mafia. Now I am starting to think you are scum as you are vote hopping.

HoS: Zewt

Yes, you are getting the whole hand, all FIVE fingers

[McGriddle]

[/Facepalm] this game is so not serious. But! I think Zwet is worth looking into. Your lulzy evil doing is very suspicious.

[UncertainKitten]

@VV: Actually, unless they DON'T have fakeclaims. Once again, read all the words. That IS actually somewhat provable depending on the quality of claim once the shit hits the fan, so to speak.

Theory can belie intent on some small level as well. It's not enough to implicate anyone, to be sure, but it's a good sorting start.

Anyway, zwet's useless and benefitting scum. Unless he somehow decides to display town intent, I'm for his lynch.
His initial gambit is not my reason for this, it's his terrible reasoning afterward for everyone he's chosen to wagon and the fact he refuses to show his work and explain WHY it makes them scummy. He's using buzzwords that have no bearing on alignment.

semi busy this morning, eye appointment and such. Will go through the answers after that.

[LimMePls]

All I know is that I'm Jonathan Morris and my role, which I will not claim just yet.

But didn't you already claim lyncher?

[LimMePls]

EBWOP: Sorry, reading comprehension for the win. I now see where you admit it was a fakeclaim.

[LimMePls]

^OMGUS

Unvote; Vote: tanstalas

No. What YOU just did was OMGUS, I just stated that I was wary of you now, and am wary of everyone since I do not know who is scum and who is mafia. Now I am starting to think you are scum as you are vote hopping.

HoS: Zewt

Yes, you are getting the whole hand, all FIVE fingers

**PING**

Sir, we have scumdar contact after the starboard bow.

Vote: tanstalas

[VasudeVa]

@UK: Have fakeclaims, don't have fake claims; I don't see the difference. In essence, I'm maintaining the point that it is essentially unprovable unless we actually catch one and until then it's just our best guess whether or not the claim is fake or not.

I do ever so slightly agree with your points on zwet being very anti-town. However, I actually think it might be Town motivated since scum generally don't want to get a big shining spotlight on them this early. Reckless and Anti-Town, yes. Scummy....we'll see.

@Zwet: I know you're da master of one liners, but can you please explain as much as you can why Coach/tansalas is scum? I really don't see the points you have explained thus far. Nothing big has happened yet, and those vote hops you deem scummy are not necessarily bad due to the fact that those vote hops are null as hell(unless I'm missing something you saw, that is.).

@LMP: Reasons r nice.