Mini 1035 - Devil's Town - GAME OVER

[PranaDevil]

Gofarman has been prodded

[edmund.angles]

Zodiark13 posting a video is slightly scummy. I liked it, but it could serve to distract from the game.

I agree with Zodiark13 that Dr. Pepper's last three bullets were some pretty weak tea.

But Blaze has only posted a vote so far, so I'd like to put some pressure to do so:

Unvote vote Blaze

[Dr Pepper]

Things Zordiak is Wrong about

• Blaze's vote is textbook OMGUS regardless of supposed randomness
  
• edmund's plan is NOT valid, it sets up an excuse for lazy scum hunting
  
• LynchMe's question is not generating relevant discussion

[Blaze]

Things Zordiak is Wrong about

• Blaze's vote is textbook OMGUS regardless of supposed randomness
  
• edmund's plan is NOT valid, it sets up an excuse for lazy scum hunting
  
• LynchMe's question is not generating relevant discussion

I voted for you because you pretty much voted for me...in your first post. I should have said why but I thought it was obvious. My bad to everyone else.

[LimMePls]

Things Zordiak is Wrong about

• Blaze's vote is textbook OMGUS regardless of supposed randomness
  
• edmund's plan is NOT valid, it sets up an excuse for lazy scum hunting
  
• LynchMe's question is not generating relevant discussion

I voted for you because you pretty much voted for me...in your first post. I should have said why but I thought it was obvious. My bad to everyone else.

Ok, I'm on board.

Vote: Blaze

[Nexus]

Things Zordiak is Wrong about

• Blaze's vote is textbook OMGUS regardless of supposed randomness
  
• edmund's plan is NOT valid, it sets up an excuse for lazy scum hunting
  
• LynchMe's question is not generating relevant discussion

I voted for you because you pretty much voted for me...in your first post. I should have said why but I thought it was obvious. My bad to everyone else.

It was a random vote. During the RVS. You OMGUS'ed him. Not really a good thing :/ I'm not happy with that. So yeah.

unvote

VOTE: blaze

[Nexus]

Shit. didn't realise that'd put him at L-1. Don't want a quickhammer.

unvote

FoS: Blaze

[podium123456]

You guys are crazy if you think that is a scum tell.

Unvote
VOTE: Dr. Pepper

OMGUS isn't really that big of a deal, people act like it's a major scum tell -- it isn't. The fact that it was during the RVS makes it much much less of a big deal.

Edmunds plan isn't that weird, and it implies nothing about how hard he will scum hunt.

There is nothing 'interesting' (implying scummy) about LMP's question. It is a common RQS question... why in the world would you find that 'interesting'?

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Also, I don't like how Lynchmepls and nexus piled on the Blaze wagon solely off of that RVS vote.

[Nexus]

I voted for you because you pretty much voted for me...in your first post. I should have said why but I thought it was obvious. My bad to everyone else.

It wasn't really a RVS if he says he did it for an actual reason...That's why I went on the wagon; I saw it as an actual vote, rather than a random vote.

To be fair, once I realised it was L-1, I wanted to at least give him a chance to explain himself, so got off it before he got quicklynched. If I was scum, I'd have left it on there, tbh.

[LimMePls]

Also, I don't like how Lynchmepls and nexus piled on the Blaze wagon solely off of that RVS vote.

Am I misunderstanding something? Is Blaze trying to say he just RandOMGUS'ed? I thought he was being serious.

[Untrod Tripod]

You guys are crazy if you think that is a scum tell.
OMGUS isn't really that big of a deal, people act like it's a major scum tell -- it isn't. The fact that it was during the RVS makes it much much less of a big deal.

Also, I don't like how Lynchmepls and nexus piled on the Blaze wagon solely off of that RVS vote.

QFT. I'm not going to put a vote on anyone for it, but I agree that calling an RVS OMGUS vote scummy is...um...foolish

[Dr Pepper]

Responses

• Blze's OMGUS vote
  • It was never a random vote
    
  • It is still textbook OMGUS
    
  • Still has made no contribution
• Edmund's "plan"
  • Lurkers get replaced, scum get lynched
    
  • May be used to distance from future a lynch
• podium123456
  • (found interesting) =/= (found scummy)
    
  • It does not imply scuminess either
    
  • Interesting things should be discussed
    
  • LMP's question generates no relevant discussion
    
  • It only lets people parrot obvious answers

[podium123456]

(found interesting) =/= (found scummy)

Perhaps you should distinguish, as you lumped it in with another activity that you later classified as scummy. Why criticize him for going the RQS route? His question is about as good as you can get for a RQS question. What is a RQS question that you believe would generate 'relevant' discussion?

Edmunds plan does not set up an excuse for lazy scumhunting... that was a misrepresentation.

And yes it is textbook OMGUS. But OMGUS isn't really a scumtell, ESPECIALLY when it occurs during the RVS. IMO, i guess. Apparantly you have assumed that blaze literally thought you were scum because of your random vote... which is a heck of a jump. Common sense tells me he didn't intend it as a 'he's scum and should be lynched' type of vote. I guess blaze will have to specifically state what his intentions were... but regardless... i am suspicious of how quick you seriously voted over that.

[PranaDevil]

blaze has been prodded

[Dr Pepper]

Perhaps you should distinguish, as you lumped it in with another activity that you later classified as scummy.

• Have not classified anything as scummy
  
• Stop putting words in my mouth
  
• My stance has been pretty clear

What is a RQS question that you believe would generate 'relevant' discussion?

• What is your type of play style?
  
• Are some tells too scummy to be scum?
  
• How many games have you played?
  
• Others that have player specific answers

Apparantly you have assumed that blaze literally thought you were scum because of your random vote... which is a heck of a jump. Common sense tells me he didn't intend it as a 'he's scum and should be lynched' type of vote.

• Blaze is not scum hunting
  
• Voting with a poor reason
  
• Trying to get me off his case

I guess blaze will have to specifically state what his intentions were...

I voted for you because you pretty much voted for me...in your first post. I should have said why but I thought it was obvious. My bad to everyone else.

[LimMePls]

I have to agree with Dr. Pepper here, Blaze's post looked like he was saying his vote was not random.

[podium123456]

Perhaps you should distinguish, as you lumped it in with another activity that you later classified as scummy.

• Have not classified anything as scummy

This implies that you dont consider textbook OMGUS to be scummy. Is that correct?

What is a RQS question that you believe would generate 'relevant' discussion?

• What is your type of play style?
  
• Are some tells too scummy to be scum?
  
• How many games have you played?
  
• Others that have player specific answers

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These are no more relevant/difficult than edmunds question.

[*]Voting with a poor reason

RVS

[*]Trying to get me off his case

Misrepresentation... where did he try to get you off his case?

I guess blaze will have to specifically state what his intentions were...

I voted for you because you pretty much voted for me...in your first post. I should have said why but I thought it was obvious. My bad to everyone else.

Really? You think that isn't obvious? ... I was referring to his intentions -- whether or not it was a lighthearted rvs vote, or a serious 'he's scum' vote. Common sense tells me it was a lighthearted RVS vote, and therefore, your reaction to seriously use that as a reason to vote blaze was suspicious. But blaze will have to confirm that.

[Dr Pepper]

@podium123456:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

UNVOTE: Blaze
VOTE: podium123456

[edmund.angles]

@Dr. Pepper:
Why do you avoid the word scummy? It's certainly not true that you have not

implied

that somthing was scummy. An example:

Edmund's "plan"

* Lurkers get replaced, scum get lynched
* May be used to distance from future a lynch

about Nexus: I didn't like his "callousness with human life". Two votes came in pretty closely spaced and he didn't bother to count the total before voting.

about LynchMePis and Nexus: I find it scummy that they put so much weight on a random vote.

unvote vote Nexus

[LimMePls]

I say again, according to Blaze's post, it sounded like he was saying it wasn't random. When exactly did he make it clear it was RVS? If he intended it to be an RVS OMGUS vote, then why not say something to that effect?

[Dr Pepper]

This implies that you dont consider textbook OMGUS to be scummy. Is that correct?

Why do you avoid the word scummy? It's certainly not true that you have not implied that something was scummy.

• I consider them anti-town
  
• I would like to discuss them
  
• or call podium on his lying

[podium123456]

Oh jeez... a huge lie i have made... you voted someone and i made the huge and disingenuous leap to assume you thought they were scummy, when you actually only thought they were anti-town. a million apologies!!

Besides that minor infraction, i haven't lied anywhere.

I find it hypocritical that with your vote on me, you essentially do the same thing you accused blaze of... if not worse. I am scumhunting, and you omgus me for it... that's as anti-town as anything he did.

Also, a video that says 'wrong' isn't a valid rebuttal technique.

[podium123456]

If he intended it to be an RVS OMGUS vote, then why not say something to that effect?

Probably because he assumed everyone would realize that.

[Dr Pepper]

Things podium has lied about

• Blaze's vote being random and light-hearted
  • giving Blaze the benefit of the doubt
    
  • while condemning me with assumptions
• My reasons for voting Blaze
  • His OMGUS vote
    
  • and for pressure to contribute
    
  • hard since he's being defended for no reason
• Me calling any player scummy
  
• The severity of his slips

[Zodiark13]

I'm suddenly finding it very suspicous that Dr P. was the only one that considered Blaze's vote to be OMGUS, and for him to attempt to pursuade everyone it was, only for Blaze to come out and say it was. Also;

Things Zordiak is Wrong about

Congratulations! You've just won the 'Person who Thinks My Name is Zordiak' award. Good job, noob.