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[Muthaa]

The whole thing about gandalf claiming should be null (if he really claims scum 50% of the time (and he seems like he'd do that)) in my opinion.

@Phaen: I'm not really against the bandwagons in general it's just that I found that one pretty stupid (more of a personal thing I suppose).




**Hey I touched something and now everything appears a little bigger on firefox, anyone knows how to undo that? It's bugging me.

[Muthaa]

Oh never mind about the firefox thing, I just found it.

[Katsuki]

If you wern't reading, the bandwagon was to get the game going. And whaddya know, it did.

You still seemed like you were holding back though. And bandwagons generate discussion. So if you look at this way, it seemed like you were trying to delay the discussion. This is my view on the matter.

[nopointinactingup]

@Ani: Err ...
@Gandalf: Really? I've only seen you claim this once :O

Because there's a huge difference between scumhunting, and scumseeking. And it seems like Antihero's seeking out reasons for players to be scum with reasons that I really don't think make much sense.

Deriding your attacker's argument instead of pointing out why it's flawed.

Unvote.Vote:Jesse

Wagon go go go!

[JesseSheffield]

unvote; vote: JesseSheffield

my vote belongs here again. I don't like Jesse's reason for not voting. Sure, having a reason to vote is good. But, sitting there not voting and saying he isn't going to randomly vote will not cut it. I can't imagine he has NO opinion on ANY player.
@Jesse - Has anyone done anything scummy in this game so far? Who do you suspect the most?
Also I'm not familiar with the term scumseeking. I have a vague idea, but could you explain more?

It's not so much about having a reason for not voting, that's not even an issue. The point is I ONLY vote with reason, meaning I vote to lynch. There has been a ton of scummy action so far in the game but that doesn't make them scum. gandalf claiming scum was clearly a scummy thing to do but that doesn't mean gandalf is scum and at this point I don't have any reason to believe that he is. And gandalf hit the nail on the head with the definition of scumseeking.

Because there's a huge difference between scumhunting, and scumseeking. And it seems like Antihero's seeking out reasons for players to be scum with reasons that I really don't think make much sense.

Deriding your attacker's argument instead of pointing out why it's flawed.

Unvote.Vote:Jesse

Wagon go go go!

I'm pointing out why it's flawed by pointing out he's seeking out reasons for players to be scum instead of scumhunting. Where are you missing this...

[warriormode]

@Ani: Err ...
@Gandalf: Really? I've only seen you claim this once :O

Because there's a huge difference between scumhunting, and scumseeking. And it seems like Antihero's seeking out reasons for players to be scum with reasons that I really don't think make much sense.

Deriding your attacker's argument instead of pointing out why it's flawed.

Unvote.Vote:Jesse

Wagon go go go!

@nopoint- I know you've probably played with gandalf a lot, is this really the first time hes claimed scum? Or were you kidding? I can't tell.

And also- I think what you're vote and reason on Jesse is what he meant by scumseeking

[Katsuki]

Jesse, since you do not seem to feel like placing a vote, care to tell us who you think is the most scummy thus far?

[Phaen]

Yeah, you didn't answer my second question :[

"I ONLY vote with reason, meaning I vote to lynch."

You know, there ARE reasons to vote besides lynching.

[JesseSheffield]

If I had to pick out players who I think are most likely to be scum I'd say you, Phaen. Town players don't normally seek out reasons for players to be scum. That's something scum do because they can't actually pick out other players to be scum, because they're the scum.

[crywolf20084]

Vote Count: Day 1

7 to lynch; 6 to no lynch.

Katsuki: (3)

Muthaa, Scott Brosius, Antihero

Antihero: (2)

warriormode, smashbro

nopointinactingup: (2)

drmyshottyizsik, animorpherv1

JesseSheffield: (1)

Phaen, nopointinactingup

drmyshottyizsik: (1)

Gandalf

Gandalf: (1)

Katsuki

Once again, any mistakes, let me know. etc etc

Later tonight, or tomorrow morning I will be doing a prod check.

_{Edit was to appease ani w/ the spelling of his name.}

[Muthaa]

@Katsuki: Holding back on what?

@Phaen: I don't really know though I suppose they're good. Also, you're voting for jesse because of the vote thing right?

UNVOTE: Katsuki

[Katsuki]

After looking at some things...

Vote: Nopoint

Mostly fluff posts, and easy voting Jesse. As someone who does not vote, Jesse seems like a too easy target.

[nopointinactingup]

Because I want to bandwagon.
@Warrior: I'm serious. It's the first time I've seen him claim scum.
@Jesse: What doesn't make sense about Anti's reasoning?

[Katsuki]

Oh? Copying me now are we?

Well you gotta have a reason to bandwagon in the first place hmm?

[gandalf5166]

Really NP? That's strange. Because I do it all the time in RVS. I would give links, but I'm pretty sure they're all ongoing. :/ My wiki is up to date though.

[nopointinactingup]

@Kat: Copying myself thank you. I do have reasons else why would I vote.

[animorpherv1]

@mod: I'm not sure how you are trying to spell my username, bt either way, you're doing it WRONG.

[Antihero]

If I had to pick out players who I think are most likely to be scum I'd say you, Phaen. Town players don't normally seek out reasons for players to be scum. That's something scum do because they can't actually pick out other players to be scum, because they're the scum.

lolwat?

UNVOTE: Katsuki
VOTE: JesseSheffield

But Katsuki is still scum.

[crywolf20084]

@mod: I'm not sure how you are trying to spell my username, bt either way, you're doing it WRONG.

OH MY GAWD I'M ONE LETTER OFF.

[Katsuki]

If I had to pick out players who I think are most likely to be scum I'd say you, Phaen. Town players don't normally seek out reasons for players to be scum. That's something scum do because they can't actually pick out other players to be scum, because they're the scum.

lolwat?

UNVOTE: Katsuki
VOTE: JesseSheffield

But Katsuki is still scum.

wtf? Care to say how I am scum?

[JesseSheffield]

@Jesse: What doesn't make sense about Anti's reasoning?

I've never heard of a scum player not voting because it would cause cognitive dissonance. I don't think that's a valid scum-hunting technique, however, I do think that he was attempting to generate discussion so I'll give him that, it worked pretty well and I'm grateful for that. But now it seems we're on different levels.

lolwat?

VOTE: JesseSheffield

Having issues?

[Antihero]

wtf? Care to say how I am scum?

No
Hint: The reason can be found in the aweful nopoint vote.

Having issues?

Yes, especially when you call Phaen scum after she pressures you to take an opinion.

[JesseSheffield]

Yes, especially when you call Phaen scum after she pressures you to take an opinion.

So you have an issue with me answering Phaen's question? How does this make sense?

[Scott Brosius]

If I had to pick out players who I think are most likely to be scum I'd say you, Phaen.

Town players don't normally seek out reasons for players to be scum.

That's something scum do because they can't actually pick out other players to be scum, because they're the scum.

So how are we supposed to find scum? Just intuition?

[warriormode]

This game makes my head hurt. At least it isn't the most stupid.

In all seriousness, gandalf didn't claim scum, nopoint is just tyring to make it seem like that.

vote nopoint

This is his only post relevant to this game and its a pretty crappy one due to the accuracy of his point.

Unvote, Vote: animorpherv1