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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:54 am

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Probably shoulda answered nevermind's Q's in the same post but oh well.
nevermind wrote:What do you think is the best way to start off an F11 (the setup we're playing)?
RVS

If RVS:
How would you decide when to end RVS?
Really after about a page of it then I'd be getting down to it

What if no one reacts to anything?
Well then it could be hard to grab some scumtells and lynch before deadline

What would you say is the maximum number of votes a person can have?
Depends on the number alive and who wants to vote after he/she/it is lynched

How would one vote "randomly"?
By using random.org's random number generator

random number generator, frivolous reasons, patterns, etc.
By using random.org's random number generator or just to mess around about their name, or place on the list
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:07 am

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Vote Count:
Ups (1): Civil Scum
Spadille (1): Yoenit
Civil Scum (1): nevermind
silverbullet999 (1): neil1113
neil1113 (1): Ups
Yoenit (0): No one
Vinicius Chaim (0): No one
nevermind (0): No one
Razgriz (0): No one

Not voting (4): Vincius Chaim, Razgriz, Spadille, silverbullet999

With 9 alive it is 5 to lynch.

Deadline Vote Count:
Ups (1): Civil Scum
Spadille (1): Yoenit
Civil Scum (1): nevermind
silverbullet999 (1): neil1113
neil1113 (1): Ups
Yoenit (0): No one
Vinicius Chaim (0): No one
nevermind (0): No one
Razgriz (0): No one

Not voting (4): Vincius Chaim, Razgriz, Spadille, silverbullet999

With 0 not having posted within the last 48 hours, 0 currently requesting replacement, and 0 who have requested to not have their vote counted for deadline purposes; 9 votes would be counted if deadline was now, and therefore it would take 5 votes to lynch. Deadline: September 30th@8:00 AM EDT/GMT-4 (12:00 PM GMT). A countdown to deadline can be found here
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:41 am

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nevermind wrote:What do you think is the best way to start off an F11 (the setup we're playing)?
RVS seems to work fine

If RVS:
How would you decide when to end RVS?
It will end naturally, if only because there has to be a lynch candidate by the deadline.

What if no one reacts to anything?
Lynch somebody at random eventually

What would you say is the maximum number of votes a person can have?
during RVS: 1-2, after that it becomes suspicious very quickly

How would one vote "randomly"?
you answer your own question already, RNG, systems, bullshit reasons all combined
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:45 am

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Just to clarify, if we get 5 votes on one person at any point, he will be lynched right? Even if the deadline is still 2 weeks away, or are the votes only counted at the deadline?
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:17 am

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DAMN IT

I missed rvs... and I love rvs...

(Thought I would be pmed when the game started heh...)

I've just skimmed everything so far.

As soon as a person reached five they get lynched

Neil you're an interesting sort

and as for the questions

How would you decide when to end RVS? Never ever!
What if no one reacts to anything?What would you say is the maximum number of votes a person can have? 3
How would one vote "randomly"? For fun reasons! (ala I would have voted civil scum... be cause his name has scum in it.)
random number generator, frivolous reasons, patterns, etc.
... People were right it seems....
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:31 am

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I'm an interesting sort? Thanks... I think.

Anyways, it didn't seem to count before when I did it so I'll try again. Oh and also, I apologize to everyone who that seemed hard to read. I left out a /quote and it ruined the whole thing, and I can't edit it to fix it. :(

UNVOTE: silverbullet999

Tag in the mentioned post fixed.

(For the record, it would have counted if I had seen it)
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:32 am

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Yoenit wrote:Just to clarify, if we get 5 votes on one person at any point, he will be lynched right? Even if the deadline is still 2 weeks away, or are the votes only counted at the deadline?
Unless this site has
very
different rules they are lynched as soon as majority is reached.(And of course the mod gets on and reveals teh role)

This is correct.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:37 am

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@Yoenit, Vinicius Chaim, and Razgriz:

Thoughts on the game so far, any preliminary suspects?

@Spadille:

The two questions of mine you answered were actually targeted at neil, but I see how it could have been ambigious. Thanks for answering anyway.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:53 am

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Oh you quoted Spadille in the post, I didn't know they were targeted at me! Otherwise I'd have answered them. Sorry! Now when you said something about "unanswered" questions, it makes sense. I don't know if you still want me to answer them but here goes...

1)What do you think of RVS in general?
I think if the concept is to get people to talk, it's a good one. Though if we have 5 votes going 5 different ways, I'd much rather narrow it down to one or two people and see what we can get from that. Otherwise it'd be hard to have 4 people question 5 others (which I believe is what the vote count was at, at the time that you asked me this.)

2)Why haven't you voted yet?
At the time, I didn't vote because I was just trying to "call" people out so to speak, to get them talking. My last vote, truly didn't have much of a reason. I figured it'd help bring silver out to talk. Though as I stated earlier, I don't really like forcing people into a defensive mode to speak, but I figure that is the goal of the game in a way?

Again, I didn't realize you were asking me these questions, otherwise I'd have answered them earlier.
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Spoiler: My Record for Mafiascum.net
#1. 5-2 Scum
#2. 3-6 Town
#3. 0-1 3rd Party
Archaebob
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When I read up, I was just amazed by neil. Awesome reads.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:55 am

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I understand the confusion, it's really no problem.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:06 am

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Ups wrote:@Yoenit, Vinicius Chaim, and Razgriz:

Thoughts on the game so far, any preliminary suspects?
so man, I posted in the second page, I have a FoS in Neil, cause, IMO, it's not a good idea to make townies lynch the IC so soon, unless you're scum...
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:09 am

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Vinicius Chaim wrote:
Ups wrote:@Yoenit, Vinicius Chaim, and Razgriz:

Thoughts on the game so far, any preliminary suspects?
so man, I posted in the second page, I have a FoS in Neil, cause, IMO, it's not a good idea to make townies lynch the IC so soon, unless you're scum...
Ah but you're wrong. I had no intention on "lynching" him, at least not yet? I said I had my eye on him. BIG difference.
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Spoiler: My Record for Mafiascum.net
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#3. 0-1 3rd Party
Archaebob
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Hats off to Neil for some incredible town play.

Me=Weird
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When I read up, I was just amazed by neil. Awesome reads.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:14 am

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I meant that you were trying to make us think like he was scum, so I thought you're trying to lynch him, but, like I said, it's just a FoS
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:29 am

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I understand. I didn't mean to portray him as scum, I just meant that people shouldn't trust him to be town JUST because he's the IC. Granted, the rules stated that as well but I figured I'd double enforce that. :)
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Spoiler: My Record for Mafiascum.net
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#3. 0-1 3rd Party
Archaebob
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Hats off to Neil for some incredible town play.

Me=Weird
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When I read up, I was just amazed by neil. Awesome reads.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:36 am

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just a question Ups, why are you asking as about our suspicious? are you worried?
(just asking)
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:36 am

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correction: asking US*
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:40 am

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i will reread in about 1 hour, and try to comprehend what's going on, and maybe make an analysis.
definitely won't be able to reread now, way too tired
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:39 pm

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I'm gonna ask that those without avatars... get one

It makes life easier seeing a unique picture with your post.
... People were right it seems....
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:54 pm

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Ups wrote:@Yoenit, Vinicius Chaim, and Razgriz:

Thoughts on the game so far, any preliminary suspects
I'm gonna re-read these 60 or so posts and make an anylasis
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:53 pm

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Yes the long color coded analysis is here. Color codes below:

Blue
-Town read
Lightlike sky blue
-Slight town read
Black
-Neutral read
Orange red
-Slight scum
Red
-Scum


Yoenit
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Hasn't posted much, not really contributing, although that sometimes is common from noobs. Had some decent answers to Q's asked at him which is why I'm leaning for the Neutral read on him

Vinicius Chaim
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Posted more than yoenit hasn't contributed much(like I said before that is common in noobs) but is atleast trying. I do want to see more reasoning behind post #48:
Vinicius Chaim wrote:FoS: neil
trying to make people vote in the IC so soon doesn't seems a good strategy for me
Yes it is true that IC can be scum just as true as they could be town, but ya know that also don't mean they should be lynched just because of the 2/9 chance that they are unless A: a cop proves it, or B: they drop a huge scumtell. Overall Slight town read

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Getting a town read off of him. He is decently active and actively scumhunting and has made some good answers to the Q's out there. Also made a few good points. Not dropping any scumtells as far as I can see and is contributing to the game. Overall town read

neil1113
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Getting a
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Getting a town read. He is actively posting and contributing to the game which is of course good. Also he has some good question answers. Also he has made some good points. Not dropping any scumtells as far as I can see. Overall town read

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Would've said slight town except he hasn't really contributed much except for his questions. Also decent amount of activity. Looking forward to the analysis. Overall neutral.

silverbullet999 (SE)
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Scum read mainly because of lack of activity(Although he did say why it's just that you shoulda been checking) and lack of contribution. Don't like the answers that he gave to nevermind's Q's at all. If it was RVS all the time then that would be bad. Also don't like how he only skimmed. Agree with him on the avi thing. Overall neutral

Civil Scum (IC)
-Town read because of the fact the he is active, contributing, making good points, and making sense. Not dropping any scumtells, making some good, logical, and agreeable answers to questions asked of him.

Rank of Suspicion (Least to greatest):
Civil Scum

Ups

Spaddle

Vinicius Chaim

nevermind

Yeonit

neil1113

silverbullet999


Couple Q's for all:

1. What is your mafia expeirence (IYHO)
2. How do you feel about transition from RVS to seriousness(IE: How do you think it should be done)?
3. What do you do about people that bandwagon?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:54 pm

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EBWOP: On silver bullet meant Overall scum
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:57 pm

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Razgriz wrote:
Couple Q's for all:

1. What is your mafia expeirence (IYHO)
2. How do you feel about transition from RVS to seriousness(IE: How do you think it should be done)?
3. What do you do about people that bandwagon?
1. It's my first game
2. it should be done slowly, with jokes getting fewer and fewer...
3. sorry, what's a bandwagon?
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:00 pm

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A bandwagon (BW) is when people pile on voting for people very quickly either lynching them or putting them a L-1. In the first few days before there are 6-5 people left a bandwagon is considered 3 people suddenly voting. Then the thrid voter is accused of bandwagoning, especially when the reasoning is poor
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:02 pm

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Razgriz wrote:
Vinicius Chaim
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Posted more than yoenit hasn't contributed much(like I said before that is common in noobs) but is atleast trying. I do want to see more reasoning behind post #48:
Vinicius Chaim wrote:FoS: neil
trying to make people vote in the IC so soon doesn't seems a good strategy for me
Yes it is true that IC can be scum just as true as they could be town, but ya know that also don't mean they should be lynched just because of the 2/9 chance that they are unless A: a cop proves it, or B: they drop a huge scumtell. Overall Slight town read
well, english is not my native language(I think you've already noticed it), so I can't express myself as I'd like to, but I'll try to explain you
lynching the IC so soon in this game would be very nice for the scums, cause I see that we have at least 2 new players here(me and the guy starting with Y[sorry, forgot your name]) cause killing him would kill a valuable help to new players, maybe confusing them later on and making scums' job easier
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:04 pm

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1. What is your mafia expeirence (IYHO)
2. How do you feel about transition from RVS to seriousness(IE: How do you think it should be done)?
3. What do you do about people that bandwagon?
1. 1 newbie game here, replaced into a couple already-in-endgame large themes, some games in other forums.
2. it should be done with mutual acknowledgment but without actually stating "hey RVS is over, let's be serious" That's the cool way.
3. People that bandwagon for a legit reason are awesome.

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