Mafia 121 -- Picking Simplicity Game Over

[Nikanor]

Also, I'm kind of in a good mood today because I finally got hired at a job, four days before I would have lost my house for lack of money to pay my landlord. Expect embellished sentences and whatnot.

[UncertainKitten]

There was a question. What the hell were you talking about in that post? I knew what Glork said just fine. Yet you said I didn't, or something?

I mean, seriously, "Uh...what?" is pretty damn clear IMO. Explain yourself.

[Nikanor]

Oh.
I meant that neither of us agreed with him.

[UncertainKitten]

We didn't? I never said those weren't possibilities. I just saw more. I dun like it.

[Glork]

And why is LMP nitpicking at the most minor point in what makes Nik scummy?

Pretty sure I've already answered this for all parties involved.

GLORKS KEYS TO VICTORY:
1) Lynch LMP
2) Convince the SK to crosskill Nikanor
2b) Lynch Nikanor if the SK is an unwilling buttface
3) ???
4) Profit!

[UncertainKitten]

Can we lynch Nikanor first, assuming we take that plan of action? I'm getting more bad vibes from him than LMP. Not enough to actually VOTE, but enough so I want to inquire more and come to a decision.

[Nikanor]

Gee whiz Glork, I dunno. I don't think I agree with any of those steps.

[Haylen]

Not even profit?

[Azazel]

LynchMePls's vote on Antihero may be the scummiest thing he's done all game.

Unvote
Vote: LynchMePls

I didn't see anything inherently scummy in his one post that would warrant wagoning on him. In fact, the timing of LMP's vote is bizarre, given that my earlier vote on him was based on his lack of posting beyond the RVS, especially past a point where serious shit was occurring. I mean, it really looks like bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagoning and hoping that everyone follows along.

I'm not sold on a Nikanor/LMP pairing yet.

[mothrax]

@Azazel: and what of those who have yet to post/those others who have not posted outside of RVS? They scum too?
Friendly Reminder: RVS has no designated endpoint.

[Glork]

Gee whiz Glork, I dunno. I don't think I agree with any of those steps.

Sorry. Those are my keys to a protown victory.

You're pretty much hosed.

[Azazel]

@Azazel: and what of those who have yet to post/those others who have not posted outside of RVS? They scum too?
Friendly Reminder: RVS has no designated endpoint.

Hardly. Antihero's post came at a time where something had in fact happened. You'd have to be skimming the game to miss Jack's claim halfway down page 2. Yet Antihero ignores it and goes ahead and makes an RVS vote anyway. There is no good excuse for ignoring it. I also never claimed that antihero was scum. In fact, I even made a disclaimer in the post that I voted that I didn't think that antihero was scum persay but that voting him was better than alternatives available at the time.

RVS doesn't have a designated ending, sure. But once serious stuff starts happening, people who are ignoring it are a great place to start. Town generally need to read the game to scumhunt.

Also, why are you bringing this up now of all times? I've moved my vote.

[Jack]

Nikanor is scummy, lynchmepls is tosky.

Azazel is scummy, his lmp vote is very bad. He calls him for bandwagoning in a 20p game with the second vote? When his own vote is a bandwagon? He has problems with lmp changing his rvs vote 4 pages in? He thinks antihero is scummy but finds lmps vote for him scummy? Too much.

[Far_Cry]

Requesting replacement.

[Far_Cry]

Actually, I'll make my last post more noticeable:

Mod: I'm requesting replacement.

Noted.

[mothrax]

LynchMePls's vote on Antihero may be the scummiest thing he's done all game.

Unvote
Vote: LynchMePls

I didn't see anything inherently scummy in his one post that would warrant wagoning on him. In fact, the timing of LMP's vote is bizarre, given that my earlier vote on him was based on his lack of posting beyond the RVS, especially past a point where serious shit was occurring. I mean, it really looks like bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagoning and hoping that everyone follows along.

I'm not sold on a Nikanor/LMP pairing yet.

This quote was right before I asked that question.

Also: Some; including myself choose to take Jack's quote with a grain of salt. I just don't see your motivation.

[LimMePls]

LynchMePls's vote on Antihero may be the scummiest thing he's done all game.

Unvote
Vote: LynchMePls

I didn't see anything inherently scummy in his one post that would warrant wagoning on him. In fact, the timing of LMP's vote is bizarre, given that my earlier vote on him was based on his lack of posting beyond the RVS, especially past a point where serious shit was occurring. I mean, it really looks like bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagoning and hoping that everyone follows along.

I'm not sold on a Nikanor/LMP pairing yet.

You have to be kidding! Wow, that is hilarious. You scum buddies are funny.

LOL! Quote tags.

Vote: antihero

clearly someone isn't reading the game. I checked back and he's the only person who didn't comment in any way, shape, or form on the Jack situation so it's a good place to start.

I don't want him lynched but I think I need to see where this goes.

I had to make that random vote. In a previous game, Haylen gave me a post restriction where I could only post in barks. I needed revenge. And no, I didn't read the thread before I posted.

As for Jack, I'm with UK on that issue.

This is what we call an appeasement. You attacked him for his behavior, and he went out of his way to change his behavior based on your vote. And then there is blending with the "I'm with UK on that issue".

UNVOTE:

Glork: If you're town, do you think it was a good idea to go around telling everyone what a great idea it would be for scum to shoot Jack tonight?

Crap flinging much?

Parrot others-much?

Post 57 = deflection fail

VOTE: Nikanor

What's up with this, Jack?
And why is LMP nitpicking at the most minor point in what makes Nik scummy?

Why indeed! What is the purpose of this question? It looks like filler, and it is purposely vague, as well as more parroting (others were already "attacking" me for this). If he wants to come down on the LMP-scum side, he can. If he wants to come down on the LMP-town side, he can. This question is blending with town and not taking a stance. Which is hilarious, seeing as its the same position he is taking in regards to the Jack situation.

How on earth can you say "you need to see where this goes" and then when he makes this post, you say "there was nothing wrong with that post"!? Antihero needs rope, and then you do.

[Azazel]

This quote was right before I asked that question.

Sorry. Sometimes I don't take simulposting into account.

Also: Some; including myself choose to take Jack's quote with a grain of salt. I just don't see your motivation.

...my motivations for what? I'm taking Jack's claim at its face value until I have reason to believe otherwise. When someone claims that he's one of our

two

power roles, I'm going to take that shit seriously.

LMP: all based off of one post from each player? You must have serious confidence in your scumhunting skill if you can deduce ALL THAT from one post.

I'm not going to defend Antihero's post, but I do want to point out a double-standard you've presented here.

This is what we call an appeasement. You attacked him for his behavior, and he went out of his way to change his behavior based on your vote.

Isn't that exactly what you just did here? You didn't explain your vote on antihero. I called you out for it. You went out of your way to explain your vote. Aren't you appeasing me?

Anyway.

First of all, connecting me and antihero as scumbuddies is hilarious. Tell me, if I was scum with him, would I be that egregious in demonstrating it? In fact, wouldn't it be more beneficial to continue bussing him for town cred? Or are you calling me an idiot?

Second of all, Antihero's post wasn't good but it wasn't the damning evidence needed for his lynch either. Your vote, in the context of my vote and antihero's post, looks like you're trying to get on a bandwagon early. I don't know if that's right, that's what I saw.

Finally, your post seems like you're attacking me simply because I'm voting you and because I don't think antihero is scummy anymore. So, where's the scum motivation?

[LimMePls]

You must have serious confidence in your scumhunting skill if you can deduce ALL THAT from one post.

I do have a pretty big ego, not gonna lie.

Isn't that exactly what you just did here? You didn't explain your vote on antihero. I called you out for it. You went out of your way to explain your vote. Aren't you appeasing me?

My correcting your false interpretation of my vote is not appeasing. My behavior didn't change to appease you, I simply explained the behavior you didn't understand. If you can't see the difference between what I did and what Antihero did, then I don't know what else to say.

First of all, connecting me and antihero as scumbuddies is hilarious. Tell me, if I was scum with him, would I be that egregious in demonstrating it? In fact, wouldn't it be more beneficial to continue bussing him for town cred? Or are you calling me an idiot?

1) That is pure WIFOM.
2) If the shoe fits.

Second of all, Antihero's post wasn't good but it wasn't the damning evidence needed for his lynch either. Your vote, in the context of my vote and antihero's post, looks like you're trying to get on a bandwagon early. I don't know if that's right, that's what I saw.

It was really freaking bad. REALLY bad. Especially in context of your "I don't want this to be a lynch, but I want to see where it goes" (insert super-scummy post from Antihero) (insert my vote on Antihero for super-scummy post) "His post wasn't bad". How can you with a straight face defend Antihero's post, PARTICULARLY AFTER YOURS!

Finally, your post seems like you're attacking me simply because I'm voting you and because I don't think antihero is scummy anymore. So, where's the scum motivation?

Wait, so you've gone completely to "I don't think Antihero is scum anymore"!? WOW! What on earth justifies "I want to see where this goes" to "he's not scum"? As for attacking you, yes I'm going to attack players when they make terrible attacks on me.

[Glork]

I love how LMP tries to rail on me for "disagreeing with Glork" and then uses the "you're parroting" and/or accuses everyone who disagrees with him of being scum.


MAXIMIZE THE HYPOCRISY.

[Antihero]

This is what we call an appeasement. You attacked him for his behavior, and he went out of his way to change his behavior based on your vote. And then there is blending with the "I'm with UK on that issue".

Appeasement?! It's a joke that only Haylen and I understand, I just explained it!

And yes, I do agree with UK on the Jack issue (you apparently "like it," whatever the f%$# that means). What now?

Parrot others-much?

Yes, I think it's weaksauce to say "OMG, look at Glork telling scum to kill power roles" like scum aren't thinking that already.

Why indeed! What is the purpose of this question? It looks like filler, and it is purposely vague, as well as more parroting (

others

were already "attacking" me for this). If he wants to come down on the LMP-scum side, he can. If he wants to come down on the LMP-town side, he can. This question is blending with town and not taking a stance. Which is hilarious, seeing as its the same position he is taking in regards to the Jack situation.

Who are these others?

[Jack]

Requesting replacement.

^^Not the sk

[Jack]

Just in case the SK is new, in case you don't know sk, it is the best strategy to try and kill mafia early on (as long as their flip doesn't make it look bad for you). Once the town has one scumflip they will search more effectively for buddies and lynch them instead of you.

[UncertainKitten]

Jack seems oddly obsessed with the SK. Hope you have good aim .

I have no idea what LMP is trying to say.

[Yosarian2]

Claim:

either

doctor or cop, to get that out of the way.

Ugh, that was terrible.

I have no idea what's going on with the LMP wagon. Glork's probably just trying to get reactions, which is fine, but I'm weirded out by comments like this from empking:

3. Because you're the scummiest player so it looks like he's trying to avoid a connection.

LMP had only made a few posts by this point, and none of them looked especially scummy to me. Want to explain yourself, empking?

I'm getting the feeling I'm about to enter a catch-22. If I say "oh you're right, Nikanor is trying to avoid a connection with me" then I'm admitting that avoiding a connection with me is somehow scummy. If I say "No, Nikanor isn't avoiding a connection with me" then you'll only take that as further evidence that we're distancing from each other.

On the other hand, this is kind of scummy, in an "overly concerned about what people think about him" kind of way.