Looks like im gonna have to get more detailed and quote stuff and bold stuff, because the weakness in my argument is that you couldnt understand it. so here we go again....
In the passage below puts forth the idea, that "trying to appear to be town is" anti-town/scummy and "actually scum hunting" is pro-town/not scummy. Remember this idea in regards to the argument, it will help u understand my defence better.
carrotcake wrote:2.) I firmly believe that people open fresh games with two strategies in mind. The first strategy is to hunt scum for the sake of taking giving them a good hanging. The second strategy is to scumhunt for the sake of appearing town. To condense it: one who cares about appearances above all else is scum, but one who cares about results is town. On the early game I tend to organize posts. Does it belong on the "try to appear town box", or the "actually hunting scum box". Granted it isn't a verifiable thing, but I trust it while on the bareness of the early game.
Carrotcoke then goes on to present her case against me, Her initial argument points out 1 thing, that I voted for a person who had not been voted for in the initial wave of random votes. This part is true.
carrotcake wrote:Let's look at hanzo.
a.) He was the last vote on an unvoted person on the initial wave of random votes. What does it tell me? It certainly isn't coincidental. His joke of an explanation felt substantial. As if; although baseless, it was a thought-out descision. What would he think about? Perhaps: he wanted to spread the votes as to not cause ripples upon the pond. He chose to vote a solitary person - to not even begin a wagon- to
be invisible
. (Am I allowed to bold non-votes, mod?). By ¬trying¬ to look town, he becomes scum.
The rest of her case is merely speculation, and I can prove it! She claims my vote isn't coincidental but she does not establish a patern that can prove im voting in a manner that would keep me under the radar.
He was the last vote on an unvoted person on the initial wave of random votes. What does it tell me? It certainly isn't coincidental.
Keep in mind I made another vote soon after for an actual reason: his he didn't vote, if thats not trying to go unlooked i dont know what is, in any case it seems to be wokring for him.
Hanzo_5 wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: xsrk/vote]
for
xsrk wrote:No vote yet.
Make note, she further proves that she is voting for my first vote by saying this.
carrotcake wrote:b.) I voted against him not for the vote hop, but his initial vote.
So her initial point was made through complete speculation about my first vote, which was complete RVS. I thought it was a cool idea for an rvs to string random loose facts together. Maybe i'll use a poem next time... or maybe i will state that I'm not voting cause that worked wonders for xsrk.
oh wait...
carrotcake wrote:c.) He probably believes no-voting post one is scummy. I disagree. Making it explicitly clear your vote is a joke or you took it by randomize.org is much more scummy imho. It's become tradition to think like this, sadly, and I'm not quite in the mood to brave the currents right now. The hop itself is not scummy, gives how common it is.
So my random vote is scummy because:
His joke of an explanation felt substantial. As if; although baseless, it was a thought-out descision.
and ofcourse ur own speculation as to what my motives are.
and a no vote ain't, excuse french, but, get the fudge out of here!
Your final thought
carrotcake wrote:d.) Put it all together thought, and then it becomes scummy.
" Look at me, I like to test reactions" over "I need to become perfectly still, i don't want people to think i'm reacting"
It's all appearances. Scummy.
This is where that bit at the begining comes into play. In her case she puts forth the idea, that "trying to appear to be town is" anti-town/scummy and "actually scum hunting" is pro-town/not scummy. Yet her whole argument is based on the idea that my first post is my attempt at being invisible. At this point point one should ask themselves how trying to be invisible is like trying to be town. And before you think, her number two has nothing to do with the case against me see if u can find whats bolded below in her arguments.
he wanted to spread the votes as to not cause ripples upon the pond. He chose to vote a solitary person - to not even begin a wagon- to
be invisible
. (Am I allowed to bold non-votes, mod?).
By ¬trying¬ to look town, he becomes scum
I'm ashamed at myself for posting like a big ass baby, crying "lynch me then". I'm unimpressed by my first defense for its admitted "hard to read" impression. I feel that this is a repost in greater detail. However, her argument was (cool person term)->"stupid weak"<-(cool person term) and quite scummy. The scummyness being the huge case over nothing but an RVS vote. this is my first non newb game, and my second game ever. but I think I can play at a high level when i am not being a jack ass.
also
FOS: The man himself
for doing something like role fishing.
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