Newbie 1038: Welcome to the Jungle! (Game Over!)

tanstalas · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:59 pm

DavidParker wrote:So why aren't you posting in a way to get reactions/find information/analyse players so you can find a person who is "worthy" of your vote? Wouldn't that be the pro-town thing to do, rather than throwing in the towel, saying "i have no idea, i'll just put a vote on this guy for nor reason, and that's the end of my post"

Is this just:

1) DP being a friendly guy and helping the newbies out
2) Being snarky to the newbie
3) Coaching his newbie scum buddy

I like my RVS vote now, you can guess which option I think it is

BrentM · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:18 pm

Its my first time playing!

Unvote

Ok, I'll give this a little more thought.

The fact that pine went after me and not the other two voters that voted for DP, makes me think he is genuinely trying to flush out the mafia (what I did seemed fishy looking back at it), so I actually feel good about Pine. And the fact that DP did not unvote and join him by voting for me, actually makes me feel good about DP.

I am going to

vote: tanstalas

, because they voted first and so quickly, which seems to me, is also the easy way out.

BrentM · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:29 pm

tanstalas wrote:
DavidParker wrote:So why aren't you posting in a way to get reactions/find information/analyse players so you can find a person who is "worthy" of your vote? Wouldn't that be the pro-town thing to do, rather than throwing in the towel, saying "i have no idea, i'll just put a vote on this guy for nor reason, and that's the end of my post"
Is this just:

1) DP being a friendly guy and helping the newbies out
2) Being snarky to the newbie
3) Coaching his newbie scum buddy

I like my RVS vote now, you can guess which option I think it is

Doesn't seem too friendly, definitely not coaching. Snarky for the win

Pinewolf · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:33 pm

@Tanstalas, I think you might have genuinely stumbled onto something. Though i think the 2nd option is also quite possible, since looking at his posts, they all have a similar feel, so i dunno...

@BrentM Well, considering it really is your first game it could be a simple mistake. Or scum trying to hide behind that excuse. I read a couple of threads here, i saw such stuff as well. I'm keeping my vote where it is for now.

BrentM · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:51 pm

@Pine wouldn't that be some pretty bad coaching? It obviously put a target on my back. I promise, you are wasting your time analyzing my first time ever to vote in a mafia game.

Pinewolf · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:02 pm

Well, i never said i agreed with the 3rd option. Re-read my post. I was actually more agreeing with the 2nd option as it just seems that DP is that kind of person.
And about putting a target on your back, it could be simply distancing away, so we don't suspect you 2 to be partners if either one you get's lynched.

I'm keeping my mind open to all the options.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:07 pm

Hey guys. Going to apologize in advanced for probably being a *little* more quiet then normal right now. Have a term project in Geotech and Steel Design due tomorrow so thats sapping quite a bit of my time. Finals are next week as well, but I should easily get in a post per day, probably just at wierd times.

My time zone is GMT-8 (7PM now for refrence), but I usually pop in at all times of the day.

Pinewolf wrote:I find it interesting you just jumped on a bandwagon, giving no reason whatsoever. That puts him on L-2 and if the 2 mafia were here they could easily achieve a lynch for them.

This is something that will likely not happen outside of a LyLo* scenario as it would end up with a very high chance of that player getting lynched the next day for pushing a lynch through without a claim first, although that is WIFOM** to an extent.

*LyLo is shorthand for "Lynch or Lose". It is a scenario where if the town lynches town, scum will win the game right there. An example would be a three player game with two townies and one mafia.

**WIFOM is Wine in Front of Me. It basically is the cyclical arguement of "scum would never hammer on page one, so the hammerer must be scum, but scum knows that is what people would think, so they could hammer, but then town would think its scum..." so on for infinity.

@DP - Did you consider what you commented on regarding Brent a tell?

MirrorIrorriM · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:03 pm

vote:LlamaFluff

for not being named FluffyLlamasteinTheThird

DavidParker · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:07 am

This is a newbie game. Being useless and/or not scum-hunting or behaving "pro-town" is never a scum-tell in newbie games. I was just being snarky. I find it's the best way to make people put in that "more" effort.

tanstalas · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:51 am

Yeah... I like my vote more and more, keep talking.

If you had come out and admitted that what you said could be seen as coaching but it wasn't then I would have dropped it.

DavidParker wrote:I was just being snarky. I find it's the best way to make people put in that "more" effort.

Something about getting more flies with honey than vinegar comes to mind. You seriously don't believe that quoted part do you?

LlamaFluff · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:10 pm

DavidParker wrote:I was just being snarky. I find it's the best way to make people put in that "more" effort.

Its not.

Encouragement and asking questions is. Being a dick pisses people off which makes them abbrasive or lurky.

@mod

- Can you find replacements for the two that have yet to post?

MirrorIrorriM · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:14 pm

Hey DP, I think your being a bit too rash in your rationalizations of things. It's really starting to make you look bad. :U

DavidParker · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:09 pm

My personal approach is often sarcastic and snarky. That's a personality trait of mine. I'm glad your using that as a scum-tell though.

DavidParker · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:16 pm

V/la til monday sorry

DavidParker · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:35 am

Back early.

@mod

: Time for replacements? Two haven't confirmed and VOT hasn't posted since confirming!

DavidParker · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:43 am

This game is going nowhere, so I'll personally get rid of my Random Vote.

Unvote, Vote tanstalas

Because your not-so-random-vote on me sucks.

Coaching?? REALLY? COACHING??? ON PAGE 1??? Something tells me I would have done the early game "coaching" in a scum quicktopic or through pms if I was in fact scum with him.

(inb4omgus)

KingTwelveSixteen · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:04 am

Uh, confirming because for some reason I got a PM from the mod saying I was playing this. :/

bv310 · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:35 am

Yes, you and one other got taken for this game since two of my players flaked before the game started.

Speaking of, welcome KingTwelveSixteen and Lunaticlucas, who are replacing cloudocean and Magnetic respectively.

MirrorIrorriM · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:52 am

I love your 4 post block DP. I really think it shows that you talk before thinking things completely through, but enough of that.

Hello King and Lunatic, welcome to the party!

BrentM · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:56 am

Welcome King and Lunatic!

LlamaFluff · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:59 am

unvote
Vote BrentM

BrentM wrote:I am going to
vote: tanstalas
, because they voted first and so quickly, which seems to me, is also the easy way out.

Why is trying to get a lynch a tell? In order to win we actually need to lynch so it being a tell for that one is out the window. Additonally, you attack the timing of the vote instead of the vote itself. Nothing I can see here says that you disagree with his read, you never even acknowledge any of his points. This is a blatant attack on someone who is trying to get the game started. Why is making the first serious vote a tell?

Pinewolf · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:19 am

To me, BrentM still seems the scummiest one. Not really sure who i could see as his partner. Nobody else seems scummy atm. Maybe DP the most, but i think it's just his personality leaking into his posts. People react differently to different situations...

BrentM wrote:Doesn't seem too friendly, definitely not coaching. Snarky for the win

And let me hang onto this one a bit.

I am talking about the word definitely here. I think it's a bit of a too strong word to use here. Plus the whole attitude of the post is a bit so-so. I dunno. I find it pretty weird.

KingTwelveSixteen · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:38 am

bv310 wrote:
BV310 presents:

Newbie 1038: Welcome to the Jungle!

Do we have fun and games?

VOTE: Lunaticlucas

Random voting, woooo!
(I don't want to get the ACTUAL lynch this early so I am avoiding the people others are voting for.)

LlamaFluff · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:40 am

KingTwelveSixteen wrote:Do we have fun and games?

VOTE: Lunaticlucas

Random voting, woooo!
(I don't want to get the ACTUAL lynch this early so I am avoiding the people others are voting for.)

We got everything you want.

Have you read the game yet?

KingTwelveSixteen · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:12 pm

LlamaFluff wrote:
KingTwelveSixteen wrote:Do we have fun and games?

VOTE: Lunaticlucas

Random voting, woooo!
(I don't want to get the ACTUAL lynch this early so I am avoiding the people others are voting for.)
We got everything you want.

Have you read the game yet?

Yes, I'm not sure who is scum though.

If you want my opinions then the quad-post was really scummy, but two of those posts are just vla and talking to the mod about something so I don't think it should really count. Being a snarky jerk isn't exactly giving him any good-guy points though. BrentM seems mildly scummy as well, but thats probably just his inexperience. I didn't really get anything other than that.