Open 268: Raise the White Flag (Game Over)

[Equinox]

Vote Count 1.04

werewolf555 (5) - yabbaguy, Chaotic Neutrality, bvoigt, rekirtS, chkflip
drmyshottyizsik (2) - andrew94, werewolf555
chkflip (1) - silverbullet999
Cookie_of_Death (1) - Stefunny

Not Voting (1) - drmyshottyizsik, Cookie_of_Death

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

The deadline is Tuesday, December 21, 11:59 PM EST (UTC-5).

Stefunny will be eligible for a prod in about an hour.

Stefunny has been prodded.

[Cookie_of_Death]

Cookie, could you

please

weigh in on the fakecrumb issue? Thanks.

Please don't piss me off.

As for the breadcrumb...

The initial double post could very well have been an accident, but post 53 is really throwing me off because it looks like werewolf is acknowledging he knows about the crumb and later acts like he's ignorant. Werewolf, what does post 53 mean?

Post 53 makes it look like wolf knew about the breadcrumb, but that post is really cryptic so I await his reponse. If I had to guess right now, I would say he's scum (because of the andrew "OMG, opportunism" crap, too). But he's at L-1 right now, so a vote is just going to end today and, according to your theory, he has two buddies still floating around. So I thought I might, you know, try to do something productive.

[andrew94]

i read your newbie 971 ( i just checked but may have short term memory)

you cant just say - if you think the crumb is fake you vote him.
i simply see no scum motivation for putting a cop crumb? its not like hes gonna claim cop.
all that is possible is a retard scum that didnt read the game/ accidental townie.

the bandwagon is heavily opportunistic e.g chkflip, he changes hes mind way too fast

OK, through all this anti-chkflip rhetoric, you haven't said a word about shotty in a while and you're vote is still on him. This is starting to smell like bullshit to me.

UNVOTE:

becos shotty just got his ass on and contributed zip.
chkflip is just doing the chkflipping way of not looking at my persecption

[bvoigt]

You don't have to be an asshole, CN.

UNVOTE: andrew94
VOTE: Cookie_of_Death

Even though he wants more people to post, he tries to stop discussion here:

Why are you so insistent on this answer? It doesn't seem like it would provide any reliable indications of silver's alignment.

Plus, after making a semi-serious vote on chkflip, he changes his vote to Stefunny for an RVS-type reason.

Try to stop discussion? Anything to warrant that? Don't you think it could have elicited something from chkflip (I was actually hoping for that, and it never materialized)?

I guess you're just assuming we all think the second one is a scumtell.

It looks like trying to stop discussion because you called him out for asking a question that was perfectly reasonable, IMO.

With that being said, I'm waiting for werewolf to post again, and don't really have anything else to say.

[andrew94]

yabba, i think your actions are scummy.

your basically forcing me to choose between voting werewolf or you keep shouting scummy scum (scare tactic)

[drmyshottyizsik]

vote wolf

[Equinox]

Vote Count 1.05

werewolf555 (6) - yabbaguy, Chaotic Neutrality, bvoigt, rekirtS, chkflip, drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik (2) - andrew94, werewolf555
chkflip (1) - silverbullet999
Cookie_of_Death (1) - Stefunny

Not Voting (1) - Cookie_of_Death

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

The deadline is Tuesday, December 21, 11:59 PM EST (UTC-5).

That's a hammer! Please stand by.

[Equinox]

werewolf555 was never one to wake up early in the morning. That's why when he finally made his way to the town square, he had no idea what was going on. People were bickering left and right. He noticed, however, that one person was missing from the group, and he decided to go look for drmyshottyizsik. Just as he'd made his third step, he heard someone yell his name.

"Why is werewolf555 wearing a sheriff's uniform?"

werewolf555 realized he'd forgotten to take off his costume. Never mind how he came to wear it, there were people glaring at him with bloodlust in their eyes!

"Didn't the mayor recently cut the budget? Like, we don't have a police department anymore?"
"Oh, yeah... What's werewolf555 doing, then?"
"I bet he's pretending to be a cop."
"He's scum!"

"LYNCH HIM!"

With that, werewolf555 was executed.

werewolf555,

townie

, was lynched Day 1!

Night 1 begins now. The deadline is Tuesday, December 14, 1:15 AM EST (UTC-5).

[Equinox]

It was a grim morning. Everyone had gathered in the cemetery, all dressed in black for the occasion. Nobody spoke a word. There was nothing to say, even as they stood before the black flag planted beside werewolf555's grave. But that wasn't the death they were mourning today, for they had done all of that the previous evening...

The casket being lowered into the ground was that of yabbaguy.

yabbaguy,

townie

, was killed on Night 1!

Day 2 begins now.

Vote Count 2.00

Not Voting (9) - andrew94, bvoigt, Chaotic Neutrality, chkflip, Cookie_of_Death, drmyshottyizsik, rekirtS, silverbullet999, Stefunny

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

The deadline is Tuesday, December 28, 11:59 PM EST (UTC-5).

[silverbullet999]

VOTE: drmyshotty
Don't know if he's simply being the typical idiot that he normally is or not.. but a hammer with no reason or no warning is a big ass no no.

[andrew94]

lol he did give warning

[Stefunny]

Yea, he did give a warning...but his reasoning was severely lacking.
That being said, to me it's usually a big sign when someone jumps in at the beginning of a new day and votes for the hammer. It's an easy vote and an easy bandwagon to start. Yes, shotty hammered, but I'm getting the feeling that he just does that kind of stuff, scum or not. I'm still interested in why the lynch actually happened so fast. I'd say at least two of the scum jumped on that bandwagon as quickly as they could.

(Sorry, last week was absolutely craptastic, I will be more active from now on.)

[silverbullet999]

Umm...

if you consider this

he's L-1 every one on his wagon better considder the posibilty of a hammer

a warning... then you yourself are an idiot.

He doesn't mention that he would be the one to hammer at all.

FOS's to both of you for trying to defend shotty's own actions.

[silverbullet999]

God Damn It

Nevermind I'm the idiot..

I read the warning.. I don't like that bs at all though.

[silverbullet999]

BS in that he doesn't make a point to let it be known (just throws it in a small paragraph and such, unbolded or marked so to speak). and yes he has pulled this shit before but it's as anti town as shit in the least.

[andrew94]

VOTE: drmyshotty
Don't know if he's simply being the typical idiot that he normally is or not.. but a hammer with no reason or no warning is a big ass no no.

you also said he has done this 'shit' before

[Stefunny]

I'm not saying that I agree with his play style, or that he is "pro-town". But I think being an anti town player and being part of the mafia can be two different things.
Also

BS in that he doesn't make a point to let it be known (just throws it in a small paragraph and such, unbolded or marked so to speak). and yes he has pulled this shit before but it's as anti town as shit in the least.

You yourself call it a "small paragraph" but you still think it wasn't made known? It's not like he buried it in a wall post, you didn't see the need to actually read the three lines he wrote?

[silverbullet999]

-andy

you also said he has done this 'shit' before

How does what you quote.. have anything to do with what I am now quoting...
Did you read, he's simply being the typical idiot that he normally is?

-stef

You yourself call it a "small paragraph" but you still think it wasn't made known? It's not like he buried it in a wall post, you didn't see the need to actually read the three lines he wrote?

The way he throws it is like this

wow /confirm
i missed alot, I would say that wolf needs to claim, but that does no good, so i skimmed and am willing to hammer at the end of tommorow if he doesn't look town by then, or provide a better case on someone else.
Sorry or coming in late i had a show tonight, and i have one every night for the next 5 days so, kinda limmitted access

He mentions the hammer all the way to the right of the page... basically it's not a memorable way of saying it as it's in normal font and just thrown into the paragraph like nothing vs saying

GUYS I AM WILLING TO HAMMER AT THE END OF TOMMOROW.

I also don't take the word Willing as, I'm gonna do it without question.

[andrew94]

if you think shotty is being the typical idiot , why did you vote him. hurr hurr

[werewolf555]

Bah! go town!

[bvoigt]

VOTE: rekirtS

Striker, if you insist on making sure everyone takes a turn with the "talking stick" before you get it a second time, the game's activity level is going to plummet and we'll go into apathy mode far too soon since we're going to be waiting on one person all the time. Don't ignore the lurkers, but don't make that the reason you're clamming up now.

Gotcha, makes sense, just wanted to get everyone to post atleast once.

But onto the game, this is either really dumb scum play or some crazed gambit. Not sure how you keep denying this.

Unvote, Vote: Werewolf555

Out of all the votes, this one feels especially like "Hey, I'll just go along with the popular way of thinking and hope for a quicklynch." My feeling about Shotty's hammer is that he wouldn't have been

that

blatant.

[rekirtS]

First off, sorry for being inactive day one guys, I'll do better I promise!

Shotty is the most suspicious imo.

wow /confirm
i missed alot, I would say that wolf needs to claim, but that does no good, so i skimmed and am willing to hammer at the end of tommorow if he doesn't look town by then, or

provide a better case on someone else.

Sorry or coming in late i had a show tonight, and i have one every night for the next 5 days so, kinda limmitted access

Heres my warning don't get mad at me after I lynch him tomorrow night? Right... In his fourish posts Shotty has literally done nothing but "I am going to hammer him tomorrow night" and then hammered him.

"Or provide a better case on someone else" is a comment that really bugs me. What does shotty think himself? Why is he going to let someone else come up with a case to influence his opinon for him? He basically has given no insight to the game whatsoever (although a little hypocritical for me to point out, I was inactive too...). This really irks me. I'd like to see who his scumlist is.

@ Stefunny I'm not too sure if two scum were needed on the bandwagon. the fake cop crumb was plenty motivation and would move fast enough by itself so I'm not sure there was a need to hop on it.

@ bvoigt Seemed like pretty crucifying evidence at the time. I thought for sure he'd come up scum. There really wasn't much else for me to say, as he didn't even regonize that he crumbed it after it being pointed out.

[Cookie_of_Death]

1st off: lol at the fact that almost no one said anything about shotty's threat

yesterday

.

Now, as for the shotty, I'm kind of thinking now that he's town. I doubt we would see such a reckless hammer from scum.

That being said, to me it's usually a big sign when someone jumps in at the beginning of a new day and votes for the hammer.

But it wasn't just any old hammer. It was a hammer that came on page 5 and we now know the lynchee was town.

Yes, shotty hammered, but I'm getting the feeling that he just does that kind of stuff, scum or not.

...and this is supported by what?

I'm still interested in why the lynch actually happened so fast. I'd say at least two of the scum jumped on that bandwagon as quickly as they could.

OK, no vote out, and no indication as to who these two scum may be.
This is starting to get fishy, Stefunny.

Striker is another person who doesn't put out a vote though he points a finger at shotty.

@ bvoigt Seemed like pretty crucifying evidence at the time. I thought for sure he'd come up scum. There really wasn't much else for me to say, as he didn't even regonize that he crumbed it after it being pointed out.

Wait a second, was that really the issue here? My issue was that he gave me two seemingly contradictory messages with post 53 and post 54.

VOTE: rekirtS

[Stefunny]

Yes, shotty hammered, but I'm getting the feeling that he just does that kind of stuff, scum or not.

...and this is supported by what?

Have you looked at any of his past games?

I'm still interested in why the lynch actually happened so fast. I'd say at least two of the scum jumped on that bandwagon as quickly as they could.

OK, no vote out, and no indication as to who these two scum may be.
This is starting to get fishy, Stefunny.

Day 2 Juuuuuuust began. I am not going to throw votes around like I know what I'm talking about until I have some sort of an idea who I feel is scummy. As of right now, none of us have a whole lot to go off of.

Striker is another person who doesn't put out a vote though he points a finger at shotty.

Why are you pushing so hard for everyone to put out a vote when it's been less than a page and less than 24 hours since day two started? Haven't you ever heard of a FOS?

And how the hell do you justify voting for rekirtS without really giving much of any reasoning for your vote?
Just because you vote and unvote every single post doesn't mean the rest of us have to.

[Cookie_of_Death]

Have you looked at any of his past games?

If you want me to see something in particular, link me please. Otherwise, I'll just take you (and silver's) word for it.

Day 2 Juuuuuuust began. I am not going to throw votes around like I know what I'm talking about until I have some sort of an idea who I feel is scummy. As of right now, none of us have a whole lot to go off of.

OK, let's try this again.
You asserted you think at least 2 scum were on werewolf's wagon yesterday? Any idea as to who they are? Because right now, from my POV, it looks like you're just throwing out a generality.

Why are you pushing so hard for everyone to put out a vote when it's been less than a page and less than 24 hours since day two started? Haven't you ever heard of a FOS?

Because at the end of the day, the vote is the only thing that matters.
I don't do FoS's; that's just how I roll.

And how the hell do you justify voting for rekirtS without really giving much of any reasoning for your vote?

The angry mouse was right about striker's vote yesterday; I'm just not a parrot, so I didn't mention it. Also, the shotty thing bothers me + the fact that he didn't seem to have an understanding of why werewolf looked really bad yesterday (either that, or I don't, but that's not the biggest issue here).

Just because you vote and unvote every single post doesn't mean the rest of us have to.

No reason to be bitter.