MrWright wrote:I'm not interested in the Moose200x bandwagon. Actually, I'm pretty sure he's town from the way he's been posting. The inital 'change' post during confirmations is a non-tell, especially for someone like Moose200x. Questioning that post is a nice way to break away from the RVS, nothing more.
Using Meta to confirm someone as town.
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
MrWright wrote:Would you mind sharing these town reads with us?
I share them indirectly.
MrWright wrote:What do you think we can gain from a prolonged RVS?
Considering that Substrike broke RVS on one of the first 10 posts of D1, we never had a true RVS that had meaning. Therefore, if we prolong the RVS, which in your post(to me at least) seems like I'm making a mediocre RVS go to a huge RVS, but I digress.
RVS can tell a lot. People, who dislike RVS to the point of murder, are people I don't like. RVS can be sex some games, and it could be the old point of tomfoolery the next. Whatever the case, itsa good.
boberz wrote:"really" yes really, so now answer properly.
Considering there was no question, and it was a bland statement on my play, that is quite the misrepresentation...
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boberz wrote:because you had two slight scum reads at the time, and the game was kicking into gear.
But that's not the point. If it was a random vote, you shouldn't care about it. It can't be scummy because you know it was a random vote, and you knew that I had suspicions already. The problem was that I wasn't sure one of the people who had already posted in the game were scum.
boberz wrote:s I said if you insist on this discussion explain why rather than just asserting your belief on us.
I explained it to the best of my abilities. There is no right answer. There's only a preference.
boberz wrote:so you agree with me on the meta but it is invalid because???
No, I agreed that you were using Meta. It is invalid because clearing someone of being town by meta is horrible. This person looks scummy. I'm not going to argue on previous experiences that this is why this person is scummy, I'm going to argue why this person is scummy at the present moment.
boberz wrote:Guys read this and then tell me why we are not wagonning this guy, it is awful. You cannot give two scum reads, however small, then vote randomly. And proffes utter bemusement at being called out on it.
First off, you butchered my name, but I don't really care about that. Just caught my attention.
Second off, that is your opinion. I did give two scum reads, being small, and did vote randomly. Do I think it was a townie move? Not necessarily. Do I think it was a move that started discussion? In some ways, yes. Do I think it was a scummy move? No, not in the least. Null? Most probably.
The only reasoning that you have that it's scummy, is because I voted someone not in my post. Psst. It's still Page 1 there.
Boberz wrote:Lets be clear you didnt we all know that, whether it is scummy or not is a matter of opinion.
But in fact Boberz, I do.
Boberz wrote:Also miyaki stop trying to goad everyone into theory discussion, re pressure, RVS, FOS and no doubt others. It is really anti town.
Au contraire. You're the one who disputed my random vote to be scummy. While I will take the blame for Pressure, there is absolutely nothing about FoS in this thread that I have said. This is a horrible accusation.
AntB wrote:... wow...
I find no reason why you needed to comment on this. If you honestly can't see the sarcasm in this, I feel sorry for you.
AntB wrote:More foul language and not much else.
Foul Language isn't a scum tell. Anger isn't a huge one either.
AntB wrote:I lold again. Either he cba to read because he knows who scum are or is genuinely a bad player making him a greater liability.
I'll agree to this. However, I'll only agree to this.
Here's the problems that I find to AntB's case.
First off, and this is the minor part, AntB seems to say everything that everyone else has seem to said in a neat way, and in one post. While this is small because Moose is scummy, and he makes one new(small) point, I'd still like to include it.
Second off, AntB's scum tells. Anger isn't a scumtell, first off. Second off, I don't believe in pressure working well with other players than new players, so I could see him being legitimately frustrated or such. Third off, the constant repetition of noting foul language. While this is a small tell on both sides of our argument, there are loads of people that use swear words constantly, and act like they were normal.
Third, the posts that AntB ignores. For starters, he ignores the basis of the lynch, Post #1. While this was made conscious or not, this is a bit worrying to me.
Post #7. This should be a huge part of everyone's case that's on the Moose lynch. However, AntB wants to ignore it. I mean, this is the basis why I find him scummy. Then again, I don't make the rules about why a person is scummy, however, I know that AntB's tells are worthless.
Post #10. Moose here says that he isn't sure if anyone is scum. AntB doesn't seem to care about this.
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Yuck.
Post#11. While AntB didn't miss this post in terms of posting, he did miss the complete and utter point about it. Moose makes a valid, but small point. Bob did have his post on me, while wanting to apply pressure to Moose. It doesn't really work that well.
Post #13. Like Post #11, AntB didn't miss this post, but found it scummy in his report. This isn't scummy. This is just borderline trolling and/or making a joke. Personally, it made me laugh for a moment, I doubt that was Bob's reaction though.
Ant_to_the_max wrote:I think this is very important to note. I will also have to agree with "can you please share" I want to know what is going on in your head.
No.
Moose wrote:Who said it would be a mislynch? I am not a policy lyncher.
Moose would need to call it a mislynch if he knew he was town, no?
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