Open 274: Game Over!

[andrew94]

andrew94 uses alt f4

[BlakAdder]

Wow, sorry about the delay. The game has officially begun.

Day 1 Start

@Ald: Thank you for correcting my mistakes.

[Fenchurch]

andrew, you voted/attempted to vote Hoopla. Do you think her actions so far are more likely to come from scum or town? Why?

In targetting Hoopla, you are implicitly defending Alduskkel. Do you feel comfortable with this?

[Fenchurch]

VOTE: Stefunny

[Da_Mafia_Godfather]

Vote: Hoopla

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[Alduskkel]

@Fenchurch: null on Hoopla ATM.

Mod:

You never answered my question about how long a person can be inactive before they are prodded.

Vote: ConfidAnon

. You just sort of joked around without kicking up dust (for the record, Hoopla joked around and kicked up dust) which strikes me as active lurkerish.

[Hoopla]

Stefunny, you were online browsing the forums several hours before actually confirming in this game. Why the delay?

[BlakAdder]

@Ald: Sorry, missed that. I play it by ear, but I'll give 36 hours as a baseline.

[Hoopla]

Vote: ConfidAnon

. You just sort of joked around without kicking up dust (for the record, Hoopla joked around and kicked up dust) which strikes me as active lurkerish.

Active lurkerish? We hadn't even began the game. What do you think of Fenchurch's entrance to the game, then? She did little to get off the fence too, asking for opinions without offering her own.

[Hoopla]

Also, I won't be here for a couple of days. An impromptu roadtrip has been called for - I'll see you all soon!

[Stefunny]

Hello all, sorry I'm limited to posting evenings and weekends due to work but I'll be around. Seems like RVS has taken off, I'm curious as to how Fenchurch Randomed my name? Your username looks familiar, do you frequent any other forums?

[andrew94]

andrew, you voted/attempted to vote Hoopla. Do you think her actions so far are more likely to come from scum or town? Why?

In targetting Hoopla, you are implicitly defending Alduskkel. Do you feel comfortable with this?

of course scum...
i already explained earlier.

how am i implicitly defending alduskkel??? for all i know, its a sick role play

[Alduskkel]

@Hoopla: The ConfidAnon vote is better than a random vote, that's what I care about 3 pages into the game. Fenchurch is different than ConfidAnon because she is putting more effort into the game by asking questions.

ConfidAnon's post 49 is really just fluff, no substance.

[Fenchurch]

Seems like RVS has taken off, I'm curious as to how Fenchurch Randomed my name? Your username looks familiar, do you frequent any other forums?

How, or why? Why is the same reason Hoopla pointed out; I saw you were browsing and wanted you to post.

I don't really post on any other forums, but I'm probably not the only Fenchurch out there.

What do you think of the game so far? Who strikes you as scummy or not scummy? In particular, what is your opinion on andrew?

of course scum...
i already explained earlier.

Well then I disagree. I think pushing an empty case on someone later in the game might be scummy, but early in the game it's a valid kickstarter/hunting method, and pro-town. Although in Hoopla's case I consider it a null tell.

how am i implicitly defending alduskkel??? for all i know, its a sick role play

I find it odd that your first reaction is to suggest that they might be scum together.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: andrew94

[andrew94]

how is my case 'empty'. re-read the first 2 pages and tell me what happened (summary)

odd? odd is my middle name! (joke)

[Fenchurch]

I didn't say your case was empty, I said it was wrong.

The 'empty' case I was referring to was Hoopla's immediately opening the game with vote/pressure on Alduskkel. I assumed that was why you were voting her, although you didn't give much of an explanation.

[andrew94]

how is my case wrong. hoopla provided a really crappy reasoning for her vote. when i pointed out her flaw, she decided to use some 'smart alec' way to reply, not directly answering my questions. this IS why i am voting her.

vote hoopla

[Fenchurch]

early in the game it's a valid kickstarter/hunting method, and pro-town.

It was the very start of the game. It's not possible to have a strong reason for a vote; you have to improvise. Scum have been caught in the past using this method. Do you dispute this? Did you read the game that was linked to?

I think your persistence in holding on to a crap case seems forced, and therefore scummy.

[andrew94]

err . unlike you i dont always follow the wiki if thats where you found that. also , i assume hoopla knows you and your 'wiki' so she would do that 'according to fenchurch pro town action'.
finally, ur last sentence irks me as a 'back off'. why???
are you so sure hoopla is town aligned?


when this discussion is over, i would like to suggest to strategy

[Fenchurch]

It's not from any wiki, it just makes sense, and can be demonstrated in other games. And as I already said, I'm NOT sure Hoopla is town-aligned here, I consider it a null tell as to her alignment, because she has played before and knows what she's doing. But that doesn't stop it being pro-town: putting pressure on someone at the start of the game generates information which is helpful regardless of who does it. It's certainly not scummy, which is what you are trying to make out.

I'm not asking you to back off, I'm pointing out to others why I think you're scum.

[Fenchurch]

I would like an opinion on this/andrew from everyone else please.

[Fenchurch]

Sorry if that wasn't clear, I'm want to hear everyone's current read on andrew, or if not that, about this case in general.

And I want to hear more from ConfidAnon, DMG and Stefunny.

[andrew94]

pro-town = town but you say its a null read???
wth are you talking about

[Fenchurch]

"pro-town" isn't equal to town.

A player can do something that benefits the town, without being town themselves.

[Fenchurch]

And a player can look pro-town, whilst being scum. That depends on the skill and experience of the player in question, which is why I give Hoopla a wide margin of error.