New Designer Mafia (Victor(s) are crowned)

[zoraster]

Again with the freaking inane massclaims. Cant you people just catch scum without the theatrics? What is this crap? What stopping the scum from just making shit up? Isnt that the whole point of this? How much more mass confusion are you inspiring to create?

Scum are the only ones that benefit from this. It creates chaos and uncertainty. Youre not being clever here, all youre doing is playing into the scum's game.
So a big screw you to whoever came up with this insipid idea, they get my vote and my ire.

Vote: Xalxe

May you burn in mafia hell, scum.

First, it's not really a mass claim. We're claiming roles we submitted. That's way different. Do you need it explained to you how it's different? How precisely do you think scum benefits from this when there are probably 50+ submitted roles? Hmm?

Second, I suggested it first.

Third, "confusion." Hah. As if the start of every large theme game isn't filled with confusion (or every game for that matter). Yes, I agree we shouldn't spend much time going back and forth about it, wasting our time, but that's not really what we're doing here.

VOTE: Internet Stranger

I think he's one of those scum who thinks that being aggressive and contrarian about every possible thing will make him seem pro-town. It does not.

[chesskid3]

ok
this wagon is fucking horrible

[Fashion Llama]

Vote Count

ender421 (2) - Olinea, chesskid3
Internet Stranger (2) - StrangerCoug, zoraster
Xalxe (1) - Internet Stranger
Fishythefish (1) - CooLDog

Not Voting (17) - Plum, Sevei, ender421, Populartajo, Zajnet, Nocmen, brokenscraps, WhenInRome, danakillsu, DeathNote, DemonHybrid, ribwich, Tasky, Xalxe, Thingyman, Furcolow, Fishythefish

~With 23 alive it takes 12 to lynch
~Fishythefish is V/LA

[zoraster]

Oh, and my roles were called:

Yancy (the role wouldn't really work if i revealed what it does or be fun for the person playing it)
Time Traveling Killer
Handwriter.

[zoraster]

ok
this wagon is fucking horrible

o m g you said fuck so it must add extra-special insight!

Listen, there are 12 needed to lynch, it's the first page, and there are TWO people on the "wagon" you're complaining about.

[Olinea]

ok
this wagon is fucking horrible

How about giving an explanation instead of... that?

[chesskid3]

ok
this wagon is fucking horrible

o m g you said fuck so it must add extra-special insight!

Listen, there are 12 needed to lynch, it's the first page, and there are TWO people on the "wagon" you're complaining about.

I see it forming. I see many easy votes added to this craptastic wagon, and I am heading it off.

Anybody seen IS play a game/played a game with IS? This is far from unusual for him, and I see where' he's coming from.

If someone would like to explain a vote on him with something OTHER than rhetoric, I'd be more than happy to hear it, but as those are the only reasons I've seen, my opinion stands. Shittastic wagon.

[zoraster]

ok
this wagon is fucking horrible

o m g you said fuck so it must add extra-special insight!

Listen, there are 12 needed to lynch, it's the first page, and there are TWO people on the "wagon" you're complaining about.

I see it forming. I see many easy votes added to this craptastic wagon, and I am heading it off.

Anybody seen IS play a game/played a game with IS? This is far from unusual for him, and I see where' he's coming from.

If someone would like to explain a vote on him with something OTHER than rhetoric, I'd be more than happy to hear it, but as those are the only reasons I've seen, my opinion stands. Shittastic wagon.

Other than rhetoric. Easy thing to spout off as if it's meaningless, but let's examine that. What would you consider a rhetoric-less vote explanation at this point?

VOTE: chess

[chesskid3]

no habla espanol

[StrangerCoug]

no habla espanol

Why are you asking us to do something with which we are already complying?

[Olinea]

and I see where' he's coming from.

Then why did you post your roles AFTER he made that statement?

[chesskid3]

post 32 is not in english.

@ Olinea: I don't agree with him, but I see where he's coming from.
Plus possible existence of a death miller/antimiller is something that should be public knowledge due to how much it screws up VCAs

[StrangerCoug]

post 32 is not in english.

I know. In fact, I recognize the language. "No habla español" isn't talking about the speaker, though—it is either a statement that a third party doesn't speak Spanish or an instruction to one of your friends not to speak Spanish. To say "I don't speak Spanish", it's "no habl

o

español."

[zoraster]

post 32 is not in english.

@ Olinea: I don't agree with him, but I see where he's coming from.
Plus possible existence of a death miller/antimiller is something that should be public knowledge due to how much it screws up VCAs

Even if the first part was confusing, the second part is not, and a well-intentioned, intelligent person could have made out what I meant by it. But because I could have been clearer, I'll help you out:

You say "other than rhetoric"?! Let's examine that. What would you consider a rhetoric-less vote explanation at this point?

[danakillsu]

#1:

Detonator

. Starts the game with a bomb. Each night, the player holding the bomb may pass it to a player of their choice. At any point during the daytime, the Detonator may type

Detonate

to kill the person holding the bomb.

#2:

Super Vanilla Townie

. Twice the night actions of a Vanilla Townie. trollface.jpg.

#3:

Mafia Matchmaker

. One-shot ability to pick two players and make them Lovers. Selected players are bulletproof on the night they are chosen.

During signups I changed #2 to:

Artist

- When the Artist is killed, the next night's actions must be submitted in picture form.

ITT: Olinea proves he is not the detonator...carry on.

[Xalxe]

post 32 is not in english.

@ Olinea: I don't agree with him, but I see where he's coming from.
Plus possible existence of a death miller/antimiller is something that should be public knowledge due to how much it screws up VCAs

Even if the first part was confusing, the second part is not, and a well-intentioned, intelligent person could have made out what I meant by it. But because I could have been clearer, I'll help you out:

You say "other than rhetoric"?! Let's examine that. What would you consider a rhetoric-less vote explanation at this point?

Oooh, oooh, I've got one!

Fakevote: zoraster

Yep, that's about it.

chesskid, I don't know why you've chosen to start a problem in this game. I don't know if you're like this in other games, but it's annoying as heck; please cease and desist.

[Xalxe]

Player	Role #1	Role #2	Role #3
danakillsu	Odd/Even Night VigMasons	Role Copier	Robber
Olinea	Detonator	Super Vanilla Townie	Mafia Matchmakers
WhenInRome	Tattletale	Cultist	Silencer
StrangerCoug	Kamikaze Pilot	Voyeur	Rolecop
zoraster	Yancy	Time Traveling Killer	Handwriter

Roles claimed so far. This will be added to as the game goes on; BTW, click the player's name for a link to the post where they claimed the roles.

[StrangerCoug]

A couple of those aren't the final submissions, Xalxe. danakillsu and Olinea claim to have had to change one of theirs.

[chesskid3]

#1:

Detonator

. Starts the game with a bomb. Each night, the player holding the bomb may pass it to a player of their choice. At any point during the daytime, the Detonator may type

Detonate

to kill the person holding the bomb.

#2:

Super Vanilla Townie

. Twice the night actions of a Vanilla Townie. trollface.jpg.

#3:

Mafia Matchmaker

. One-shot ability to pick two players and make them Lovers. Selected players are bulletproof on the night they are chosen.

During signups I changed #2 to:

Artist

- When the Artist is killed, the next night's actions must be submitted in picture form.

ITT: Olinea proves he is not the detonator...carry on.

lol.

@Xalxe you missed my submission.
@SC are you really complaining about my lack of properly typing I don't speak spanish? Really?
@ Zoraster: If you want to have a non-rvs vote out at this point have a non-rvs reason that is actually legimate. Voting for the guy because you don't like his beliefs about how mafia should be played is not a vote based on that, it's an MD thread. Go read games of his - he thuroughly opposes MC in every game i've seen him play in. Tell me how that has ANY bearing on his alignment that he disagreed with it yet again?
And as for why i'm opposing this, is because I don't 10 pages of bullshit wagon on IS and idiotic debate about something that is irrelevant.

[CooLDoG]

my roles are:
Day Vigga, obligatory non-dayending vig....
Porn Star, not telling just yet.
Rush Limbaugh, he spreads propaganda on a player and they require one less vote to lynch, but if he is targeted by a doc he dies because he is sooo resistant to pain killers.

we have some pretty weird roles...

chesses comments are as stupid as normal. However, zora does have a point about the wagon deal...

[Nocmen]

ok
this wagon is fucking horrible

2 votes is a wagon when it takes 12 to lynch?

[StrangerCoug]

@SC are you really complaining about my lack of properly typing I don't speak spanish? Really?

Yep. I felt like being a grammar Nazi It's null, though.

[chesskid3]

@SC are you really complaining about my lack of properly typing I don't speak spanish? Really?

Yep. I felt like being a grammar Nazi It's null, though.

dude everyone knows only scum can't speak spanish
I just scumslipped man

[CooLDoG]

I noted the missing conjugation as well... Still concerning.

[zoraster]

#1:

Detonator

. Starts the game with a bomb. Each night, the player holding the bomb may pass it to a player of their choice. At any point during the daytime, the Detonator may type

Detonate

to kill the person holding the bomb.

#2:

Super Vanilla Townie

. Twice the night actions of a Vanilla Townie. trollface.jpg.

#3:

Mafia Matchmaker

. One-shot ability to pick two players and make them Lovers. Selected players are bulletproof on the night they are chosen.

During signups I changed #2 to:

Artist

- When the Artist is killed, the next night's actions must be submitted in picture form.

ITT: Olinea proves he is not the detonator...carry on.

lol.

@Xalxe you missed my submission.
@SC are you really complaining about my lack of properly typing I don't speak spanish? Really?
@ Zoraster: If you want to have a non-rvs vote out at this point have a non-rvs reason that is actually legimate. Voting for the guy because you don't like his beliefs about how mafia should be played is not a vote based on that, it's an MD thread. Go read games of his - he thuroughly opposes MC in every game i've seen him play in. Tell me how that has ANY bearing on his alignment that he disagreed with it yet again?
And as for why i'm opposing this, is because I don't 10 pages of bullshit wagon on IS and idiotic debate about something that is irrelevant.

You are out of this world. Really. Something else. Because two people voted on page 2 it means we'd have 10 pages of low-information? Really? If we're still discussing whether IS is scum on page 12, it's unlikely we're talking about the same thing.

But whatever. Fine, we'll let IS scuttle a potentially fruitful reveal for no reason than he dislikes confusion and this is kind of similar but not really to a typical mass claim.

Instead, let's talk about you. What are your suspicions and why? And be sure not to use "rhetoric" but use a "legimate" reason.