Newbie 1060: It's a Murder Mystery (Game Over)
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mb53 Mafia Scum
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Vold, Mummat is acting paranoid? Can you show me this?
Also Vold, what do you mean by "forced"? How can you force questions? Questions are question ~.^. I asked you if you found prime scummy and you reply by saying you have nothing to say. Then in your next post you mention that Prime is scummy. Why did you not simply answer me?
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Zensei wrote:Vold, Mummat is acting paranoid? Can you show me this?
Zensei, allow me to present to you Mammut ISO post #2.
This was still during the voting stage, so keep that in mind. And yet, he seems sure that one of his wagoners has a reason, EVEN THOUGH THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY REASONS THIS EARLY IN THE GAME.
Unless he's absolutely positive that his two bandwagoners (which were Pime and Snow) are scumbuddies, or he's positive that they're two towns that have an early lead on him, he shouldn't need to fear that such a plan may come to fruition, much less even be there!
Zensei wrote:Also Vold, what do you mean by "forced"? How can you force questions? Questions are question ~.^. I asked you if you found prime scummy and you reply by saying you have nothing to say. Then in your next post you mention that Prime is scummy. Why did you not simply answer me?
Sarg already answered the first part. And the second is simple: At the time, I didn't have my notes structured, much less made, and thus didn't have anything to offer. Now that my notes are made, and somewhat organized, I gave my thoughts. Simple as that.
Zensei wrote:What is scummy about Prime to you?
As I said in my initial rundown, do you not think that Prime's quick backtracking from Sarg's FoS about the train/bandwagon spectacle was a little too quick? The fact that he knowingly tossed out the word train favor of bandwagon seems to be a serious lack of thought on his part, moreso for what he was trying to do.
And yet, if you'll look at the post where he replies to Sarg (Here, for your convenience), he was trying to find a way to have a lynch or vote prefix with train that would "scan well".
It's far too suspicious for my liking. More like a weak backtrack to cover up a blunder which we have yet to completely uncover than a response.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Yep, and we're now way way out of RVS.
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vote: Zensei
*waits for primate*ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Kid went to sleep, thought I'd get up and check this. And ..another page. Sweet jesus. So I'm still kinda at a point where I've got nothing worthwhile to add to the conversation nor do I feel like we've made any ground. Usually is the case during the first day of a game. Either way, just wanted to speak up since some might have noticed I was "browsing this forum."-
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Yep, definitely is. Which is why I wanna know why he thinks I made that vote.Voidedmafia wrote:
You act as if you expect Prime to whole-heartedly agree with you. Suspicious, isn't it?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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GreyICE wrote:
Yep, definitely is. Which is why I wanna know why he thinks I made that vote.Voidedmafia wrote:
You act as if you expect Prime to whole-heartedly agree with you. Suspicious, isn't it?
You're supposed to say what your reasons are, not make people guess and flounder like fish.
HoS: GreyICE
snowjorden wrote:FOS: Voidedmafia- For posting so many pictures of a character that I got no clue who he is...
A shame you haven't played Phoenix Wright. And it's a shame he--oh, wait, I can't say that.
In any case, I was the main prosecutor for the first game. Miles Edgeworth is the name.
Don't forget it!
Also, your attempts to pantomine my actions are as useless as your attempt to do anything in that post.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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@VoidedMafia: No I'm not. If I tell everyone everything I'm thinking and expect them to nod their heads, how would I ever find out how they think? And if I don't know how they think, how do I ever find out when they're thinking like scum instead of like town?
Also the pictures are wearing out their welcomeShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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A new challenger appears!
Just kidding. Anyway, after doing a (super) quick ISO of Zensei, he strikes me as fishy. His very first post accuses Voided of not "catching scum", only 1 1/2 pages in. It was also his VERY FIRST POST, so you could say he was doing the same thing he was accusing Voided of.
His second post is also all questions, directed at Voided. No content or his thoughts on anyone, just questions. Why not make a post explaining any thoughts YOU have instead of asking everyone else?
Both posts don't sit right with me.
In conclusion,Vote: Zensei-
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GreyICE wrote:@VoidedMafia: No I'm not. If I tell everyone everything I'm thinking and expect them to nod their heads, how would I ever find out how they think? And if I don't know how they think, how do I ever find out when they're thinking like scum instead of like town?
That's the problem: You're expecting them to nod their heads. Maybe if you WEREN'T, you'd see that your idea is silly at best.
Besides, reasons aren't gained through guessing what other people's are. Your witholding of your information is far too suspicious for my liking, if not too scummy.
GreyICE wrote:Also the pictures are wearing out their welcome
TOO BAD! I'm using these GIFs because I wish to, and to enhance the experience. I intend to use these until I win or I'm lynched/NK'd.
And it'd be rather stupid to NK me just because of these GIFs, I might add.
Sarg:
WHAT'RE YOU DOING HERE?!2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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mb53 wrote:Oh yeah, asking questions to figure stuff out... sooooo scummy.
My point is, he's making it sound like he has reasons for voting for Zensei, yet wants us to ask him questions to figure out what his reasons are. THAT is what I perceive to be scummy and suspicious.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Vold, could you at least just use one pic per post instead of all the way throughout? They are very distracting. Also Vold is this your first game or do you have other experience? Wait I'm pretty sure you already answered that. You say you know Sarg? From where is this? Apologies if I missed it. I will be using wiinet most of the time, and I'd have to completely exit out my post to go check.
@Sarg: So then please define to me what a forced question is. Questions are meant to gain further information on the questionee which is what mine did. Do I expect anyone to genuinly have scum picked out, no. However how one responds to such questions is where to begin. I've already gotten a feel for Vult from those questions in that he is showing logical thought process and and presents lack of guilt. (btw please don't respond to questions that aren't addressed to you. I asked Vold because I wantedhisanswer.)
As for how I've entered the game, I don't see a problem with avoiding rvs. I'm not in this game to chatter, I'm in to catch scum. You say that I did not express thoughts of my own, but that is because in truth there was no reason for me to. It was the second page in the game. Such thoughts that I already have are nothing more than baby suspicions. There are two main occassions I feel thoughts should be shared.
1. When asked.
2. When your thoughts can contribute to the advancement of town.
Baby thoughts on first two pages of rvs could hardly do that. This is shown by what Ihavepresented. You're already taking my early suspicions and attemps to progress the game as solid accusations when really I have little evidence to call anyone I have been interacting with/questioned scum. So I do not see why you would be suspicious for my questioning and lack of expression. For it's questioning that gets us into the game and ultimately allows us to get to the bottom of things. At least that's how I see it. Do you disagree? If so, please explain why and why you would still find my actions to be wrong. If not, good, that's the way it should be.-
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Zensei wrote:Vold, could you at least just use one pic per post instead of all the way throughout? They are very distracting. Also Vold is this your first game or do you have other experience? Wait I'm pretty sure you already answered that. You say you know Sarg? From where is this? Apologies if I missed it. I will be using wiinet most of the time, and I'd have to completely exit out my post to go check.
If I could convey emotions through one GIF, I would try to. But I can't.
As for your other questions: No, I have no other experience beyond reading games; and I know Sarg from Scorehero.com.
Zensei wrote:@Sarg: So then please define to me what a forced question is. Questions are meant to gain further information on the questionee which is what mine did. Do I expect anyone to genuinly have scum picked out, no. However how one responds to such questions is where to begin. I've already gotten a feel for Vult from those questions in that he is showing logical thought process and and presents lack of guilt. (btw please don't respond to questions that aren't addressed to you. I asked Vold because I wantedhisanswer.)
Your questions were forced because they seemed almost like you were literally dragging the topic towards more serious discussion. They were not bad questions, but the timing of them just happened to be a little too...iffy.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Grey is there a point in the game in which you become useful? Or do you intend to play this way entirely?
"I want to see why he thinks I'm voting him" is a very bad way to play. Aren't you supposed to be IC/SE? Or are you just challenged? The guru playstyle doesn't really work out. And is just anti-town. Not sure if you're wanting me to respond to your vote some way, but there's not much one can say against nothing.-
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Ah I see what you mean by forced. I'm just a serious person and like to be taken as so. And as I said, I see no reason to chatter about nothing or watch you guys chatter about nothing.
Vold, smileys can express emotion as well. The huge ass gifs are very annoying and distract from the content of your posts. I don't see why you feel the need to be so stubborn in this.
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