Open 288 - Mayo Clinic (Game Over!)

[Rain]

Not just any America... West coast o_O

[Olinea]

Lolmarica sucks.

Inb4idiebecauseisaidthat

MrBump has been modki-

Hey, even your mod needs sleep

With 11 confirmed, the game has started. Deadline is set for Saturday, March 12th.

[MrBump]

VOTE: Pacman

Pac is never scum. PERFECT LOGIC.

[Rain]

Vote: wasamasas

Obvious scum is obvious.

[MrBump]

0MG U CANT NO TH3 SC|_|M N0W UNL3SS U R 1

[Kagetora]

/confirm
I don't notice any odd words in my telegram

vote: Kagetora

Well with nothing much else to go on at this point...

Vote: Pacman

[evilpacman18]

/confirm
I don't notice any odd words in my telegram

vote: Kagetora

Well with nothing much else to go on at this point...

Vote: Pacman

WOW. I just found scum with a joke. Today's gonna be a good day.

confirm vote: Kagetora

[Kagetora]

WOW. I just found scum with a joke. Today's gonna be a good day.

confirm vote: Kagetora

Kinda hard to accurately read "jokes" online. Especially in these type of games.

[Kagetora]

Also curious on exactly how the logic process worked to "prove" I'm scum. You random vote me, I have nothing against me other than "I didn't read my PM very closely" and how do I defend against that? When I counter-random vote it makes me scum?

[MrBump]

UNVOTE: Pacman

VOTE: Kagetora

Because clearly when Pac was voting in the confirmation stage he was joking. NO.

[evilpacman18]

Also curious on exactly how the logic process worked to "prove" I'm scum. You random vote me, I have nothing against me other than "I didn't read my PM very closely" and how do I defend against that? When I counter-random vote it makes me scum?

I voted you before the game even started, that should have clearly not been serious. And your vote wasn't "counter-random" as I hadn't placed a random vote on you. I had a fake vote on you that didn't even count because it was before the game. Let's take that term apart real quick.

Counter-random. Oxymoronic in and of itself, random in this case means without purpose, except that the purpose of the vote is to counter. BUT. What are you countering? A vote that didn't count because it was made BEFORE the game? Technically there was no vote. So there was nothing to counter but you chose to counter anyway. Bit defensive, aren't we? What do you have to be defensive about, eh?

[wasamasas]

/confirm

[wasamasas]

O I JUST WOKE UP AND HAVENT READ IT PROPERLY
/confirm Pheasents?

[Kagetora]

I voted you before the game even started, that should have clearly not been serious. And your vote wasn't "counter-random" as I hadn't placed a random vote on you. I had a fake vote on you that didn't even count because it was before the game. Let's take that term apart real quick.

Valid point. Lynch me if you wish.

Unvote

[parknourie]

Vote: Wizrak

Said some shit about me in Open Game Lists.
You like that don't you.
Given your early joining date and your cocky attitude you are the first one to go on my list.
Die scum!

[andrew94]

unvote vote wasamasas

highly likely that the word was near his 'you are the scumz' so he spent ages looking in the dictionary

[evilpacman18]

Lynch me if you wish.

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[parknourie]

OMG...
Andrew, Escho, aaah, Vatesi are all in multiple of my other current games.
Also,

I voted you before the game even started, that should have clearly not been serious. And your vote wasn't "counter-random" as I hadn't placed a random vote on you. I had a fake vote on you that didn't even count because it was before the game. Let's take that term apart real quick.

Valid point. Lynch me if you wish.

Unvote

Not a convincing way to prove your innocence.

Unvote Vote: Kagetora

[Kagetora]

Lynch me if you wish.

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If you wish to call it that sure. I admit I was in the wrong and I don't see enough evidence to convict someone else or any evidence to defend myself.

Counter-random. Oxymoronic in and of itself, random in this case means without purpose, except that the purpose of the vote is to counter.

I'm pretty sure what I meant was clear enough, even if it wasn't denotatively what I said. If you wish me to truly elucidate on what I meant please ask for a clarification rather than nitpick about the exact definitions of words.

BUT. What are you countering? A vote that didn't count because it was made BEFORE the game? Technically there was no vote. So there was nothing to counter but you chose to counter anyway. Bit defensive, aren't we? What do you have to be defensive about, eh?

I withdrew my vote, and the inverse can also be said about you. Bit aggressive aren't we? What do you have to be aggressive about eh?

[Kagetora]

Not a convincing way to prove your innocence.

Unvote Vote: Kagetora

Is there a convincing way to prove my innocence at this point in the game? I have no actions to back up my words other than my concession of a point I hadn't fully thought out.

[parknourie]

Well, there may be but not saying "Lynch Me"

[evilpacman18]

Lynch me if you wish.

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1.

If you wish to call it that sure. I admit I was in the wrong and I don't see enough evidence to convict someone else or any evidence to defend myself.

Counter-random. Oxymoronic in and of itself, random in this case means without purpose, except that the purpose of the vote is to counter.

2.

I'm pretty sure what I meant was clear enough, even if it wasn't denotatively what I said. If you wish me to truly elucidate on what I meant please ask for a clarification rather than nitpick about the exact definitions of words.

BUT. What are you countering? A vote that didn't count because it was made BEFORE the game? Technically there was no vote. So there was nothing to counter but you chose to counter anyway. Bit defensive, aren't we? What do you have to be defensive about, eh?

3.

I withdrew my vote, and the inverse can also be said about you. Bit aggressive aren't we? What do you have to be aggressive about eh?

Not a convincing way to prove your innocence.

Unvote Vote: Kagetora

4.

Is there a convincing way to prove my innocence at this point in the game? I have no actions to back up my words other than my concession of a point I hadn't fully thought out.

1. You have several options here. Obviously it's gonna be a bit before you lynched since we're on PAGE TWO, you could talk until you sound more town or you could build a stronger case on someone else in a few pages. Giving certainly isn't the way to go about continuing on in the game.

2. I'm not nitpicking about exact definitions. You contradicted yourself in two consecutive words! How is that even POSSIBLE?! It's rare to see people contradict themselves in consecutive posts and you did it in TWO WORDS. It's like a miracle.

3. Withdrawing your vote doesn't nullify the scumminess of it. And yes I'm being aggressive. You being scum is what I have to be aggressive about.

4. Again. Giving up on page 2 isn't the best way to go about it.

[Kagetora]

1. You have several options here. Obviously it's gonna be a bit before you lynched since we're on PAGE TWO, you could talk until you sound more town or you could build a stronger case on someone else in a few pages. Giving certainly isn't the way to go about continuing on in the game.

2. I'm not nitpicking about exact definitions. You contradicted yourself in two consecutive words! How is that even POSSIBLE?! It's rare to see people contradict themselves in consecutive posts and you did it in TWO WORDS. It's like a miracle.

3. Withdrawing your vote doesn't nullify the scumminess of it. And yes I'm being aggressive. You being scum is what I have to be aggressive about.

4. Again. Giving up on page 2 isn't the best way to go about it.

1 and 4. There is simply not enough evidence against me for me to argue against. Statistically I'm not mafia, but then a 1/4 chance is still pretty good odds for this game. I don't wish to give up, but there isn't a strong enough argument that I can put up that I think can save me.

2. Picking apart an oxymoron is indeed nitpicking definitions when you know as well as I do what I was implying. Also contradictions in the English language are everywhere, contradicting oneself in two words is not that difficult. Deafening silence, accurate estimate, unbiased opinion, science fiction, preliminary conclusion. Look! I just contradicted myself 5 times in one post! Now we all know what those mean, and if you really think lynching me over a single oxymoronic phrase makes sense then I guess there's nothing I can do to argue that.

3. Oh but doesn't it? If I were mafia wouldn't I be more interested in lynching somebody in general? I do not want to lynch today, and my vote against you was merely a response to the vote I incorrectly perceived to be against me. I withdrew it because I didn't have an argument that held up when scrutinized, and truly didn't make sense to myself anymore.

Lynching is not my priority, and really it shouldn't be the town's either. We are probably going to lose 2 people per night, with the mafia, 2 vigilantes, and a serial killer out, we have 4 potential deaths. The 6 doctors plus the mafia doctor theoretically protect 7 people. Lynching now would most likely cost us a doctor or vigilante, and the perilous conditions that would arise if we kill one of these two sets of people could vastly improve the chances of a mafia win. I don't want to do that.

[andrew94]

dude theres a serial killer on t he losse mate, so ur 1/3 chance of being scum.

finally, so your suggesting we no lynch forever?
thats ridiculously stupid cos the Sk will have a definite advantage, and this game becomes 'luck game'

[Kagetora]

Of being scum sure there's a 1/3 chance. Of mafia it's 1/4. I was merely referring to the latter.

I am most definitely not suggesting we no lynch forever, that would almost definitely give the mafia/sk a win. We simply have too great a risk of hitting a town person on the first day for us to, in my mind, validate a lynch.