Supermini Time Travel Mafia - Timeline Reshuffle!

[big_kahunia]

What do you mean? Anyways, I believe halitosis is a disease commonly known as "bad breath".

It looked like a Spanish word. I don't know Spanish, but know you are fluent in it, so I figured you could tell me what the word meant. Thanks Stewie for the clarification.

Why are people claiming motives, again?

[mathcam]

Current Official Vote Count:

LazMoth (2, StD, Stewie)
Uraj (1, Narninian)
Flay (1, Uraj)
Stewie (1, Coron)
StD (1, Roland)
Coron (2, Lazmoth, Flay)
Roland (1, bk)

5 to lynch.

I'll think about putting a dealine on, just so we can get through a few days relatively quickly, but I'll leave it up to you for now.

Cam

[lazarusmoth]

Ok, let's claim roles then?

[Narninian]

naw- I dont think a mass role claim is in order-- would only help scum.

I think we should Force somebody to roleclaim through bandwagoning as normal...

UNVOTE

VOTE: Coron

[Mr. Flay]

I suspect either Coron or lazarusmoth is scum. Laz seems to be saying now that his "divining" about Coron was flavor text, and Coron doesn't seem to know what's going on. 2+ killing groups in a 9 man game? Be serious...even mathcam's not that cruel.

Unvote: Coron, Revote: lazarusmoth

for wanting us to make a mass role claim on Day One... you first.

Second Causality Question: Will we be told that the reality-stream has shifted and motives are no longer what they seemed? I'm working under the assumption that it won't change *every* night, only when events (even day events?) cause paradox to occur... 8)

[mathcam]

It should change only when paradoxes occur (I'm having a hard time predicting exactly how frequently this will be...hence, largely, the motivation for this game), and yes, you'll be notified.

[rolandofthewhite]

This is all so very confusing, but I do agree that the suggestion lazarus gave wasn't a very good one, indeed.

Unvote; Vote: lazarusmoth

.

[Coron]

And by "guaruntee" I mean I will give you 3.26 Coron Points if I'm lying
Coron points are something you can put in your sig if you want(not that you would), nothing else.

[Stewie]

And by "guaruntee" I mean I will give you 3.26 Coron Points if I'm lying
Coron points are something you can put in your sig if you want(not that you would), nothing else.

I'd sooo put that in my sig.

Anyways, since laz is pushing for a mass role claim, I say we lynch him.

[Save The Dragons]

Do we all get Coron points? I so want some...

[Narninian]

umm - I want coron points when all this is over..
but since he offered them thats good enough for me...

UNVOTE

pretty close to voting for Laz here, gotta go now - but consider me on the edge.

[Coron]

Do we all get Coron points? I so want some...

Yes, you all would get them.

[mathcam]

Current Official Vote Count:

LazMoth (4, StD, Stewie, Roland, Flay)
Flay (1, Uraj)
Stewie (1, Coron)
Coron (1, Lazmoth)
Roland (1, bk)

5 to lynch.

[big_kahunia]

Ok, let's claim roles then?

With one away from lynch, looks like you'll be the first.

[lazarusmoth]

What a good idea: let's lynch someone who posts with a bit of flavor text and offers some suggestions!

(I think people who make a lynch based on this are making mafia a very boring game with everyone being overly-cautious and close-mouthed. But I digress...)

I'm a timestopper. I either cancel a night action (even if it's going to be performed that night or in the future) or force a night action to happen this very night. I'm also a townie. For now, I guess.

[Stewie]

That wasn't helpful at all, since scum get the same roles as town. If you want me to unvote, then explain how a mass roleclaim can help the town.

[Save The Dragons]

There's a difference between flavor and acusing someone of being alone with our dead bodies.

But I admire your playfulness.

And I don't know if I can ask the mod this or if someone might know or have a clue as to what the answer is (maybe I completely missed it);

If, hypothetically, someone was scum, could they also kill, if they had a non killing role?

unvote

for now.

[Stewie]

If, hypothetically, someone was scum, could they also kill, if they had a non killing role?

unvote

for now.

From what I know from Cam's previous games, yeah, they can use both abilities.

[Mr. Flay]

Would it be both abilities, or either-or?

I'm not sure about the timestopper thing, but I do know it doesn't make me any less likely to vote you. Again, roles and motives are separate in this game. I

do

have a...

Third Causality Question: If someone has a night action planned for the future and dies, does their action still occur when they are dead in that timeline? Or does it only become real if they are alive on the same night that the action is to take place? (I realize that it can be activated retroactively even in that case, if they are resurrected/protected)

[Narninian]

That wasn't helpful at all, since scum get the same roles as town. If you want me to unvote, then explain how a mass roleclaim can help the town.

my sentiments exactly..

[lazarusmoth]

Cmon, folks. Look at your reasons for voting me:

Revote: lazarusmoth for wanting us to make a mass role claim on Day One... you first

With one away from lynch, looks like you'll be the first.

(But when I claimed a role, another one said, oh no no no, that wasn't helpful)

I do agree that the suggestion lazarus gave wasn't a very good one, indeed.

Since when are we penalizing ideas, bad or good?

If you want me to unvote, then explain how a mass roleclaim can help the town.

my sentiments exactly..

Reasons: I'm playing an experimental game with roles I don't know about. I thought it was a good idea to gather information. Since roles townie/mafia SHIFT anyways we might as well play with CARDS OPEN at the table.

[Narninian]

ok - knowing who cop/doc etc... is can only help the mafia... even after shifting..

the mafia can kill the doc if they know who it is, etc...

[Mr. Flay]

I don't think I ever said that you claiming a role *would* be helpful. I said the idea of a mass roleclaim would be *unhelpful* (to the town).

Again, use the right terminology, please. MOTIVES shift, ROLES do not. mathcam is known for these sort of split-identity games, and just because someone is a mason or cop or whatever doesn't mean they can't be mafia. Only mafia benefit from knowning who has the roles they need to eliminate.

I'm playing the same experimental game you are. I think you're taking this way too seriously, and your overreaction seems scummy to me. If you're not, hey, I apologize, but that's the way the game is played...

It seems to me that every day that we wake up to a reality shift in our motivations, we'll start at essentially Day One as far as 'tells' go... I think that gives the scum quite a benefit, provided they can stay alive under the radar...on the flip side, 2 vs. 7 is harsher odds than normal, and we don't know what all the roles do...

[Narninian]

not EVERY day will shift roles...

[Mr. Flay]

Isn't that what I said? My English teacher would probably beat me for that 67-word sentence, if she were here.

That's what I

meant

to say, anyway...that anytime the motives shift, we have to scrap all the accrued knowledge of guilt-by-association, mafia 'tells'. etc...