There Will Be Bloodshed (Game Over)

Wraith · Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:03 pm

Sorry for lateness, doctor appointments and Minecraft devour my free time. I will catch up tomorrow.

PREDIT: STOP POSTING ARGH

TwoHeadedBoy · Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:15 pm

Oh hey, the game started.

Vote: Pine

His rambling is giving me scummy vibes.

Grey voting NL is a nulltell, btw.

~Pie

evilpacman18 · Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:22 pm

vote: GreyIce

D1 suggestions of no lynch makes me want to hurt myself plus he admitted to only doing it because it's consistent with his town meta. Worrying about meta consistency = scum.

Slaxx · Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:24 pm

Saved for votecount.

Pine · Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:43 pm

Parama wrote:Pine, your walls will not be read by me. Just FYI.

Friend wrote:Pine definitely seems like he's trying too hard (and I concur with the lack of wall-reading). That sarcastic response wasn't good either.

silverbullet999 wrote:I'll read what you post to me... and your TLDR's... but that's about it.

I find this lazy and irresponsible at best, scummy at worst. Ask me to cut back if you're bothered by verbosity, but not reading posts solely because of their length is only to the scum's advantage, especially when the poster has put a lot of thought and analysis into them.

@Friend: I'll concede that few or none of those votes are, technically, random. However, they are largely inane and pointless. And as previously stated, the innocent ones can provide a screen for a scum's early mistake. Sorting the good from the bad when half the group is just messing around is a lot more difficult than in serious discussion.
@GreyICE: I don't follow your problem with my methods. There was plenty of analysis in that post, though admittedly it was coupled with an overabundance of quotes. I'll cut back on the quotes to avoid this, which hopefully will clear up both your problem and the lazy readers' problems.
@Silverbullet: In retrospect, I probably over-reacted without regard for alternative interpretations of what you'd said. My bad.
@TwoHeadedBoy: From what I've read, there seems to be dissension in the community regarding NL votes. While I agree that it isn't a scum tell, I find it suspicious. That's what I was implying, rather than 'NL votes are a scum tell.'

Cookie_of_Death · Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:51 pm

Pine, conciseness is protown.

Parama · Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:12 pm

Cookie_of_Death wrote:Pine, conciseness is protown.

I put it into wall form so Pine will read it.

Friend · Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:27 pm

Oh my god, thank you.

TwoHeadedBoy wrote:
Grey voting NL is a nulltell, btw.

~Pie

Agree with this by the way. I don't think pacman's vote is good at all.

Cookie_of_Death · Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:41 pm

Who's your vote on, friend?

Calcifer · Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:04 pm

I missed my RVS. Oh well.

Pine, this post seems to me to be completely and totally useless. It's apologizing for a style of play your haven't even developed yet, and the only tangible advantage to it is not having people questioning your playstyle.

Parama, never ever ever ever ask Mastin to explain his reads in detail

. Ever. Your paranoia has a musty town smell to it, though. However, don't bother. It's not like you'll catch me anyways.

DLG wrote:No need for a random vote when things are picking up already.

Glad you recognize this. Now can you stop being useless and put a real vote down?

EPM wrote:I would have made the same opening post as town but I panicked when you took it the way you did and screwed up on DH's question.

When people say things like this, it always interests me. How would you know that you would make the same opening post as town?

Cookie of Death wrote:I don't like this post.

It smells funny.

Sorry Mastin, but I'm sure you'll approve of this one.

Unvote, Vote: Cookie of Death

The first scum of the day and it smells so good. Smells like hypocrites and cinnamon, wouldn't you agree?

Calcifer · Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:06 pm

evilpacman18 wrote:
vote: GreyIce

D1 suggestions of no lynch makes me want to hurt myself plus he admitted to only doing it because it's consistent with his town meta. Worrying about meta consistency = scum.

Do you really think he was serious?

Friend wrote:Oh my god, thank you.

TwoHeadedBoy wrote:
Grey voting NL is a nulltell, btw.

~Pie
Agree with this by the way. I don't think pacman's vote is good at all.

I don't think YOUR vote is good at all.
But anyways, bad in a scummy way? Or bad a in a poor play way?

Friend · Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:38 pm

DLG, Cookie.

Friend · Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:38 pm

Oh, and bad in a poor play way, with a hint of scumminess.

[winger] · Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:44 pm

Calcifer wrote:Oh, and I take back what I said before. I'm not going to post the reasons (they're quite insane), but I'll give you my conclusions.

{C-Worl, Cookie, Friend, winger} contains at least one--probably two--scum.

Okay, maybe this will fly with everyone else, know you're probably doing this just to gauge reactions, but I'd like an actual explanation.

Parama wrote:Calcifer, explain each of those reads in detail, because right now I'm really liking my vote as more than RVS.

I agree with this (minus the fact that my vote isn't on Calcifer).

DLG wrote:If you're going to sell yourself as hyperTownie, I'd expect the unrelated fluff-n-stuff to disappear. Is anything grabbing your attention, yet?

This seems to be jumping the gun a bit… Pine made two comments during the random stage, and yet DLG is telling him not to do that. I don't see DLG making the same comments towards any of the other "fluff-n-stuff" posts during RVS.

Calcifer wrote:I'm fully capable of explaining the reads in detail, but feel it'd be anti-town to do so at this moment.

Fair enough, but I will be expecting an explanation before the day is over.

Pine wrote:And honestly, Black Swan was the best movie I'd seen all year.

You're my new favorite.

Seriously though, you should try to be more concise, your posts are very dense and hard to process.

Friend wrote:Pine definitely seems like he's trying too hard (and I concur with the lack of wall-reading). That sarcastic response wasn't good either.

I'm not sure if I think he's trying too hard in a suspicious manner. It may just be that this is his first game here and he's trying to assert himself. I definitely do not like the long posts. It's much more helpful to be concise than it is to require more reading in one long post than the rest of the page combined.

Cookie, regarding Jerbs' vote on Pine, wrote:I don't like this post.

It smells funny.

What was wrong with that vote? What bothered you specifically? "It smells funny" isn't a suitable explanation.

Pine wrote:Ask me to cut back if you're bothered by verbosity, but not reading posts solely because of their length is only to the scum's advantage, especially when the poster has put a lot of thought and analysis into them.

I disagree with this. Not reading long posts does not benefit scum, and posting long posts does not benefit town.

Calcifer wrote:Parama, never ever ever ever ask Mastin to explain his reads in detail . Ever. Your paranoia has a musty town smell to it, though. However, don't bother. It's not like you'll catch me anyways.

I'm guessing Mastin is one of the people playing the Calcifer account? Anyway, I don't care if Mastin has a habit of not explaining his reads, he needs to explain them. And I definitely don't like Calcifer's vote on Cookie at this stage in the game. Granted, I'm not a fan of Cookie's open dissent with Jerbs' vote on Pine, but I don't think a vote followed by a bold declaration of scum is appropriate. That being said, I'm getting a vague town vibe from the Calcifer slot.

[winger] · Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:46 pm

Additionally: there are too many players who haven't posted enough/at all to be declaring that someone is decidedly scum yet.

Cookie_of_Death · Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:16 pm

Nacho wrote:Sorry Mastin, but I'm sure you'll approve of this one.
Unvote, Vote: Cookie of Death
The first scum of the day and it smells so good. Smells like hypocrites and cinnamon, wouldn't you agree?

Tsk, tsk, nacho. You know what they say about assuming...

The lack of an explanation actually isn't the worst part of the post. The fact that it's on a townish target and it comes at a time when there's a lot of annoying feelings eminating from Pine is the worst part. Also, unless Jerbs is trying out a new playstyle, I don't remember him being somebody who usually flippantly states that someone is scum and slaps down a vote, but I'm willing to write this point off.

Calcifer · Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:32 pm

Not exact, but ROUGHLY ordered most to least.
TOWN:
Empking
AGar
DLG
Parama
Pine
ConfidAnon

NEUTRAL: GreyICE (leaning scum)

SCUM:
Cookie,
Friend,
C-Worl,
winger

And there you have it. The vote for Cookie is a good one.

C-Worl · Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:36 pm

Those who don't open there thoughts up to the rest of town are scum. Give reasons for your list Calcifer. Also, I've seen very little value in any of Pine's posts and his sensitivity to everyone is lolable. Parama asking Mastin to explain himself is in no way paranoa. Don't post a list of scumspects unless you plan on explaining it. Winger is a hypocrite for harping on Pine's long posts when his last one was humongous.

Here's my list of scumspect though. (Calcifer and Pine)

Calcifer: For making an initial list of scumspects with no reasoning. I don't care if the reasons are retarded not giving any is scumtastic.

Pine: For his arrogant, long, and mostly pointless posts.

GreyICE · Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:40 pm

Unvote

Vote: Friend

You're not mine.

Anyone you don't agree with and want to offer mild advice to right now? You are so trying to blend in, you little scumbag.

Cookie_of_Death · Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:46 pm

Calcifer wrote:Not exact, but ROUGHLY ordered most to least.
TOWN:
Empking
AGar
DLG
Parama
Pine
ConfidAnon

NEUTRAL: GreyICE (leaning scum)

SCUM:
Cookie,
Friend,
C-Worl,
winger

And there you have it. The vote for Cookie is a good one.

You're not eli.
And you're wrong.

silverbullet999 · Post Post #70 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:51 pm

*couldn't stop laughing for quite awhile*

ahem...

hmmm agar where you at...

hydra's are slightly hard to read... grrrr

Calc:

NEUTRAL: GreyICE (leaning scum)

Shouldn't he be thrown under your list of SCUM then? ....

C-Worl · Post Post #71 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:56 pm

Oh and

Unvote

No need for my original joke vote to remain when we have prime scumspects coming out of the wood work now.

Friend · Post Post #72 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:24 pm

GreyICE wrote:
Unvote

Vote: Friend

You're not mine.

Anyone you don't agree with and want to offer mild advice to right now? You are so trying to blend in, you little scumbag.

Meh.

I still think my vote for DLG is solid.

Slaxx · Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:58 pm

VC 1.02

Not Voting

: C-Worl, diddin, Wraith, Pine

C-worl

: [winger]

Friend (3)

: AGar, Empking, GreyICE

Cookie_of_Death

: Calcifer

GreyICE

: Evilpacman18

Pine (2)

: Jerbs, TwoHeadedBoy

Jerbs

: Cookie_of_Death

AGar

: silverbullet999

TwoHeadedBoy

: DLG

ConfidAnon

: nhammen

Calcifer

: Parama

evilpacman18

: ConfidAnon

DLG

: Friend

Deadline is in 13 days, 2 hours.
19 alive, 10 to lynch.

TwoHeadedBoy · Post Post #74 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:22 pm

C-Worl wrote:Oh and

Unvote

No need for my original joke vote to remain when we have prime scumspects coming out of the wood work now.

May I ask why you unvoted, yet didn't re-vote, even though "we have prime scumspects"? You even listed

your

two suspects in the post before this... seems odd to unvote instead of changing your vote to one of them.

~Pie