Mini 1138 - Candy Zoo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Twistedspoon]

Anyway, everybody lynch TS now, it's already taken too long.

this is hilarious

argument?
or are we relying on Ad hominem here?

anyways, answer mb53's question. It takes priority over your tunneling of me.

[ToastyToast]

Hoppster and Zyrconium= Scum buddies tunneling on someone (who isn't scummy)

Unvote, Vote: Hoppster

I think Zyrconium's last statement puts more evidence against him.

Anyway, everybody lynch TS now, it's already taken too long.

Right, because it hasn't even been a day since the game has started.

Unvote: Vote: Zycronium

[mb53]

unvote, vote: Zycronium

Both scum, it does't matter who is lynched first.

[Kalofer]

I propose we play the first day like a normal mafia game and see where it leads us, either we learn something after the first night or at worst we come back to these arguments and can build off of them. The whole candy thing I see as a kind of WIFOM at the moment, I don't think we're getting far with everyone accusing everyone else of being scummy for either knowing or not knowing something, seems like blind guessing to me and I'd rather it not be done. And to add, it's just as possible that those who are accused of "knowing more" or looking suspicious could be town PRs as well as scum.

Vezok, call me an idiot (it's ok, many people have called me that) but I don't fully kinda grasp your question or how a given answer will affect anything, can you please expand it or maybe even reveal your "crack" since after all, holding information back when you're town when you know bout something that can help town isn't very townie (I understand maybe you need to hide something and present your views at then end but really, where are you going with this gimme something more to work with). From how I interpret the question however, and from what I've seen, I don't think "evil people" maybe even care since the mod showed what goodies there are in his first post. Also, where are you from?

@Mod, if possible can you please display vote count, thanks

Oh and since RVS is over UNVOTE:

[Twistedspoon]

Zyrconium's last post reminds me of a player in execution mafia who has randomly appeared shouting baseless commands to vote certain players

If mb53's question isn't answered in your next posts, hoppster and zyrc, then I shall be voting one of you.

[mb53]

Who do you think is scum kalofer?

[Hoppster]

Author's note: I got ninja'd several times during the construction of this post.

Vezok's role fishing is harmful but almost certainly not in a way that he intended it (if he is town). If he is scum, then again, it's harmful but possibly not in the way he intended it.

Your is just blunt. It's "OH HAI GUYZ THIS GUY IS EITHER SCUM OR PR". Scum know who is scum, so either you're showing yourself up as having identified them or you're giving them a better NK. Seriously, I'd much prefer you just flat out accuse people of being scum instead of your rolefishing with your "THIS GUY ISN'T VT!!!!111"

I didn't want to have to clarify that but you insist on being so narrow-minded about it. >.<


IT IS NOT GOOD FOR TOWN. SERIOUSLY. JUST

THINK

FOR A BIT ABOUT IT,

PLEASE

.


Also, are you insinuating that Vezok and I are scum buddies? Otherwise that point about me trying to get you to tunnel on me is just flawed. The only people attracted any real attention apart from myself are Vezok and yourself (albeit just from me for the latter).

Your point about CAPS LOCK isn't clever or funny. I am making valid points here and you're laughing it off as "CAPS LAWKE, LOLFAIL", either due to lack of a proper response or scum trying to piss me off.


Preview Edit: Wow, massive ninja. Zyrc, I love you. TS and mb53 - if you're town, please stop being so

incredibly

narrow-minded.

Preview Edit 2: Oh man, this game... mb53, you are going to look really ridiculous when Zyrc flips town (as I'm 90% sure he will).

Preview Edit 3: Okay, I agree with Kalofer. Forget this whole stupid thing. That works.


Twisted, please read Kalofer's post. Kthx.

[Zyrconium]

not sure what I think of switching votes in RVS

Cautious to the extent of AVOIDING scumhunting.... so not town....

anyone want to go RQS?

Deflecting with fluff upon being accused.

What do we do with the items we have? Can we donate them? Maybe if some one gets them all we win:D.

WOAH

what do you mean by 'if someone gets them'
Is it even possible to transfer items?

what reasons do you have for thinking this? I hope this isn't role-fishing vezok from execution mafia again.

Helping vezok rolefish while looking to discourage it(his question)

The mod isn't going to tell us what they do. I think they form some sort of recipe. Maybe when we get some items we can make stuff and gain powers.

Also do you think a mass claim of ingredients is a good thing?

[ur=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFGfWrJR5Ckl]NO[/url]

what makes you believe that these ingredients aren't just here for flavour reasons?
What makes you think they are collectable?

and mass claims are hardly ever to the town's advantage
mafia learn who has what and town only get the wrong ideas from mafia claims.

all town need to do is lynch scum

Ingredients will either help scum or distact us from scumhunting.

Vezok, you're digging your own grave here

Rolefishing VEZOK, while trying to discourage rolefishing.

Vezok seems to know too much for a VT role.
noted.

SHouldn't have to explain this one...

his last 3 posts have all been defenses too.

[Twistedspoon]

Hoppster's strawmanning noted

Zyrc, I love you.

wow buddying

this just gets better

VOTE: Hoppster

you wanted it

Twisted, please read Kalofer's post. Kthx.

hoppster, It's you, not me, who's tunneling here

I'm waiting for mb53's question to be answered and vezok to be posting to explain.

[Amrun]

I appreciate the effort, Zyrc, but pushing for a lynch RIGHT NOW is still ridiculous.

I also want to play this first day at least like a normal game.

[mb53]

Ok hoppster, I see your point.

*golf-clap* Zyr made a case

[Twistedspoon]

Vezok's role fishing is harmful but almost certainly not in a way that he intended it

and you know what vezok intended?


hoppster, the omniscient townie, as ever

[mb53]

BTW

I no longer see Hoppster as scum (good explaination), but I can still see zyrc as scum for sheeping.

[Hoppster]

Zyrc, I love you.

wow buddying

this just gets better

VOTE: Hoppster

you wanted it

You do realise that is,

at best

, a null-tell? It's so full of WIFOM that basing a vote on it is just scummy or plain stupid.

If I'm scum, I could be framing a townie. Would scum be so stupid to declare they love their scum-buddies? Or maybe that's what I want you to think, because he actually is my scum-buddy.

(I'm assuming you think I'm scum, because otherwise, why are you voting me?!)

Twisted, please read Kalofer's post. Kthx.

hoppster, It's you, not me, who's tunneling here

I'm waiting for mb53's question to be answered and vezok to be posting to explain.

1) Did you read Kalofer's post?
2) Did I ever accuse you of tunneling?

Failvote, please try again.

Vezok's role fishing is harmful but almost certainly not in a way that he intended it

and you know what vezok intended?


hoppster, the omniscient townie, as ever

I have inferred from other people's reactions. >.<

Seriously, you are being so anti-town right now it's ridiculous.

Use your goddamn fricking imagination. Seriously. You're so off-track it's ridiculous. You were the one insulting me (albeit as a joke) for having no imagination, use yours.


@ mb53: Thank you. Seriously. I am incredibly grateful. Although, I am fairly confident of Zyrc being town based on his reactions.

[Twistedspoon]

@ mb53: Thank you. Seriously. I am incredibly grateful. Although, I am fairly confident of Zyrc being town based on his reactions.

moar buddying

trying to make allies are we?

anyways, scum will have likely gone unnoticed so far, under the radar as it will

Hoppster is merely trying to make a name for himself as a scumhunter. Apparently the end justifies the means to him, no matter how anti-town they may be. coughsheepingbuddyingstrawmanningdefendingquestiondodgingetc.cough

[Kalofer]

mb53, expect an answer to your "who do you think is scum, kalofer" question tomorrow when I hopefully will have a better chance to review and focus everything said and done.

[ToastyToast]

Author's note: I got ninja'd several times during the construction of this post.

Your is just blunt. It's "OH HAI GUYZ THIS GUY IS EITHER SCUM OR PR". Scum know who is scum, so either you're showing yourself up as having identified them or you're giving them a better NK. Seriously, I'd much prefer you just flat out accuse people of being scum instead of your rolefishing with your "THIS GUY ISN'T VT!!!!111"

I didn't want to have to clarify that but you insist on being so narrow-minded about it. >.<

Somehow I feel that only scum would notice this.

@ mb53: Thank you. Seriously. I am incredibly grateful. Although, I am fairly confident of Zyrc being town based on his reactions.

In other words "ZOMG he's off my back. And lets defend my scumbuddy!"

[Twistedspoon]

I no longer see Hoppster as scum (good explaination), but I can still see zyrc as scum for sheeping.

you may regret giving hoppster get out of jail free card after one pro-town post.

Scum can make one pro-town post and they walk free.
that's the sad reality in many of my games

@Toasty: glad to see someone isn't basing their reads off of one pretty post. +1 townie point

[Hoppster]

@ mb53: Thank you. Seriously. I am incredibly grateful. Although, I am fairly confident of Zyrc being town based on his reactions.

moar buddying

trying to make allies are we?

anyways, scum will have likely gone unnoticed so far, under the radar as it will

Hoppster is merely trying to make a name for himself as a scumhunter. Apparently the end justifies the means to him, no matter how anti-town they may be. coughsheepingbuddyingstrawmanningdefendingquestiondodgingetc.cough

IF YOU DON'T THINK I'M SCUM, WHY ARE YOU STILL VOTING ME.

This post reads very clearly as scum to me. He was attacking me hugely, and has completely ignored my responses to his recent points (which is just the post above his for crying out loud), and now that his only support in mb53 has gone, he's suddenly decided I'm not scum.

I still want a Twistedspoon lynch. His ISO is full of "HAI VEZOK YOU ROLEFISHER" whilst he rolefishes himself, then it's "Hoppster is totally scum", whilst he holds off on a vote, then when he does vote for me he has no basis whatsoever, then he decides I'm not scum, as scum are probably under the radar, when in reality nothing has changed apart from him losing the support of mb53 in his interrogation of me.

Spoiler: Answer to questions I have 'dodged'

Somebody's so scared of being accused of OMGUS that they aren't willing to attack who they (presumably) find scummy.

(That's you, btw.)

hoppster's trying to bait me :3
Isn't it cute :3

No, I'm picking up on something scummy you did.

@ mb53: I'm not saying answering the question is scummy. >.<

I'm saying it doesn't help town (to my knowledge), but it almost certainly does hurt town.

Vwezok seems to think it helps town, and that's why I want to hear more from him

Okay, this isn't a question for me.

I'm not trying to defending Vezok.

Backpeddling? Lets' see, you accused me of rolefishing over vezok, themaster of the art, and

So I'm scummy because I'm attacking you? Nice.

Vezok's open method strikes me as suicide for scum,

also, how is it role-fishing to say you seem to know more than a VT right after you posted:

I have other reasons that I cannot disclose for the moment.

Why would the circumstances make rolefishing stop being rolefishing?

Does anyone else see the flaws in hoppster's logic?

Methinks, Hoppster is trying to get me to tunnel on him to distract me from a scumbuddy of his.

Dealt with this.

I'm happy to dictate play regarding this matter.

Yeah, that's what scum try and do. Get everyone to blindly follow the scum and you have a town full of sheep.
anyways, posting in caps lock hardly means you can dictate play as town hoppster

So town never do it?

Preview Edit: Twistedspoon, please stop being hypocritical.

@Toasty: glad to see someone isn't basing their reads off of one pretty post. +1 townie point

OMG BUDDYING.

[Twistedspoon]

yeah, posting a good thing about a player is significantly different to 'zyrc I love you'

even you can see that

[mb53]

I think both of you are town.

Need some in-actives in here. Pretty please? =)

[Twistedspoon]

my vote is for pressure btw

It's working. You're driven by rage and no pro-town motivation whatsoever anymore.

once you had a small town read and now it's back to tunneling whilst hiding behind it and declaring your love for players who had a town read on you.
infuriating.
I'm only still here today because I want to ask vezok some more questions.

[Twistedspoon]

I think both of you are town.

please don't; hoppster will be asking you to marry him now, he buddies that much

[Zyrconium]

Add, Ad hom to my loist of reasons.

[Amrun]

Hoppster, please never edit your answers into posts like that. It's really hard to read and impossible to quote later.