Mini 1138 - Candy Zoo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Amrun]

I've thought about it and I'm not sure how answering the simple question of vezok's can be that bad.

I'd prefer it not have been asked at all, this early, but now that it's on the table...

Yes.


Please no further speculation / massclaim madness.

From what I can tell, vezokpiraka has a lot more information than me and that does not sit well with me.

[ToastyToast]

VOTE: ToastyToast

It's candy zoo mafia, and toast fails to qualify as candy
or zoo life

HAHAAH this made me laugh

OH, and

Vote: Morthas

Sweet three people from the newbie game we all owned in.

[ToastyToast]

And for Vezok's question, I say Yes.

[Nobody Special]

@mb: I don't see where vezok is going. I'm not going to ask you to explain (yet) though. Lemme think on this. Also, good catch re: Morthas.

@TS: Hi, there, to you too.

[Twistedspoon]

Is vezok's question to reveal our ingredients?

[Amrun]

Well, he did ask that, but if anyone does that, they're derps.

But the more innocuous question is "Are baddies after your ingredients?"

[Amrun]

And to be perfectly honest, I don't actually know who is after my ingredients, or even if anyone is, but I inferred a "yes." That's why I didn't want to answer. Maybe I still shouldn't have.

[Hoppster]

Also, where are you from crazy
Twisted and Hopper do you like anime?

Sorttttt of.

well we all just start questioning the players who have overreacted in the Random voting stage *coughhoppstercough*

You're just mad I outed you as scum.

what makes you believe that these ingredients aren't just here for flavour reasons?
What makes you think they are collectable?

and mass claims are hardly ever to the town's advantage
mafia learn who has what and town only get the wrong ideas from mafia claims.

all town need to do is lynch scum

Ingredients will either help scum or distact us from scumhunting.

Vezok, you're digging your own grave here

I like this post of yours. Perhaps I'm wrong with thinking your scum. UNVOTE:

However, Mod's second post says: "You know that there is a candy mechanic in the game. The nature of this shall only be revealed when the game is over."

Vezok seems to know too much for a VT role.
noted.

^ I just unvoted you, please try not to look like you're rolefishing. VOTE: Twistedspoon

I have enough reasons to believe that when town has a special mechanic and they don't use they end up losing.

For example: Mafia on Holy Orders. The town didn't bother too much with the mechanic and they ended up losing the game.

I game I played on another site: There was a mechanic that allowed people to connect to other people. Town was afraid that scum might do stuff to them if they connect and didn't try to connect to much. They ended up losing.

That's why I think mechanics should be exploited because it favors the town more than the scum.

1) Who says town has a special mechanic?

2) Confirmation bias much? TOWN LOSING AND TOWN NOT USING A SPECIAL MECHANIC DON'T NECESSARILY CORRELATE.

Yes. I see where you are going with this.

I don't like where this is going. >.<

Let's stop. Now, please. THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

I am not answering Vezok's question.

Consequences haven't fully been thought out. (Or, rather, it's overlooking some possibilities.) Please, nobody else answer the question, I am telling you it is not going to work.

PREVIEW EDIT: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NOBODY ELSE ANSWER VEZOK'S QUESTION

[Twistedspoon]

I assume mafia would want to know our ingredients. That's why we have a closed setup, no?

therefore it's bad that vezok suggested a mass claim

VOTE: ToastyToast

It's candy zoo mafia, and toast fails to qualify as candy
or zoo life

HAHAAH this made me laugh

lol, thanks. That makes my day

hoppster is acting all suspiciousy. He's accused me of rolefishing. It's hard to beat Vezok at that though.

anyways, It looks like hoppster might know too much for VT too.

[Twistedspoon]

Also, where are you from crazy
Twisted and Hopper do you like anime?

Sorttttt of.

RQS ended hoppster, keep up

[mb53]

Hoppster is trying very hard to sound town.

FoS

What consequence is there to answer whether bad guys want your goodies or not?

[Hoppster]

hoppster is acting all suspiciousy. He's accused me of rolefishing. It's hard to beat Vezok at that though.

anyways, It looks like hoppster might know too much for VT too.

Vezok's open method strikes me as suicide for scum, and I have other reasons that I cannot disclose for the moment. I'm not ruling Vezok out as scum, but it just seems like too much of a gambit (paticularly if, as I have inferred, Vezok has a history of rolefishing like this).

AND YOU'RE STILL LOOKING LIKE YOU'RE ROLEFISHING. More Twistedspoon votes please.


To reiterate my earlier point,

NO FURTHER PEOPLE TO ANSWER VEZOK'S QUESTION PLEASE. THANK YOU.

Preview Edit: It's included at the top away from the more serious stuff. Besides, it's rude to leave a question unanswered.


@ mb53: Like, what? Also, your question is actually related to the problem.

[Twistedspoon]

AND YOU'RE STILL LOOKING LIKE YOU'RE ROLEFISHING. More Twistedspoon votes please.

and you still look like you're trying too hard to look both town, dictate play and defend vezok

Caps lock doesn't strengthen your argument either

anyways, I'm not interested in tunneling on hoppster as he is on me.

I want to hear more from Vezok right now

[mb53]

Twistedspoon seems town to me >_>

Hoppster: Seriously. You can't just go around saying "AH BLAH BLAH ANSWERING THAT QUESTION IS SUPER SCUMMY, DON'T DO IT" and not explain WHY it is bad.

[Hoppster]

and you still look like you're trying too hard to look both town, dictate play and defend vezok

anyways, I'm not interested in tunneling on hoppster as he is on me.

Somebody's so scared of being accused of OMGUS that they aren't willing to attack who they (presumably) find scummy.

(That's you, btw.)

I'm not trying to defending Vezok. Vezok could be town or scum for all I know. I'm insisting that nobody else answer Vezok's questions, regardless of whether Vezok is town or scum.

It's not immediately my first priority atm whether my play is coming across as scummy or towny (although I'd rather it be the latter), just as long as people obey my one request.

I'm happy to dictate play regarding this matter.


@ mb53: I'm not saying answering the question is scummy. >.<

I'm saying it doesn't help town (to my knowledge), but it almost certainly does hurt town.

[Morthas]

Vote: Morthas

, for basing his answer off of the example role PM, instead of his own (because he didn't get a town PM of his own.)

And who are you to suggest that no townie could know any details about the candy?

[Zyrconium]

And I found a way to break the game open.

Do evil people want to know your goodies? Y/N

Just answer and say nothing more. Everyone has to do this.

This is even worse role fishing btw, and it's role fishing that if vezok is town assumes the mafia are all really really retarded..... simple logic could turn this into a massclaim.

I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE DON'T ANSWER THIS.

[Zyrconium]

And I found a way to break the game open.

Do evil people want to know your goodies? Y/N

Just answer and say nothing more. Everyone has to do this.

This is even worse role fishing btw, and it's role fishing that if vezok is town assumes the mafia are all really really retarded..... simple logic could turn this into a massclaim.

I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE DON'T ANSWER THIS.

[Zyrconium]

Ok, should have read the last page before posting that...

[Hoppster]

Yes, you should have. >.<

[Twistedspoon]

Somebody's so scared of being accused of OMGUS that they aren't willing to attack who they (presumably) find scummy.

(That's you, btw.)

hoppster's trying to bait me :3
Isn't it cute :3

@ mb53: I'm not saying answering the question is scummy. >.<

I'm saying it doesn't help town (to my knowledge), but it almost certainly does hurt town.

Vwezok seems to think it helps town, and that's why I want to hear more from him

I'm not trying to defending Vezok.

Backpeddling? Lets' see, you accused me of rolefishing over vezok, themaster of the art, and

Vezok's open method strikes me as suicide for scum,

also, how is it role-fishing to say you seem to know more than a VT right after you posted:

I have other reasons that I cannot disclose for the moment.

Does anyone else see the flaws in hoppster's logic?

Methinks, Hoppster is trying to get me to tunnel on him to distract me from a scumbuddy of his.

I'm happy to dictate play regarding this matter.

Yeah, that's what scum try and do. Get everyone to blindly follow the scum and you have a town full of sheep.
anyways, posting in caps lock hardly means you can dictate play as town hoppster

[mb53]

You guys still aren't saying why it is bad to answer...

I

see no harm in it.

[Zyrconium]

Anyway, everybody lynch TS now, it's already taken too long.

[mb53]

Hoppster and Zyrconium= Scum buddies tunneling on someone (who isn't scummy)

Unvote, Vote: Hoppster

[Amrun]

Zyrconium, it's like a half a day into the game or something.

Slow down.

Make a case on TS.