Mini 1141 - Frogs Mafia 2 - GAME, SET, MATCH

[Meransiel]

I don't know yet, that's the problem, most people seem neutral (though honestly I'm not getting town reads either). Yes, that includes ender and Tuncali.

I'll keep my vote on moz (who does seem a bit too clean and cautious - more gut than logic here, but meh) until a better choice arises.

[petroleumjelly]

@Meransiel: Kinda what Tuncali said, why are you defending somebody that has probably ~1/4 chance of being scum when you have nothing to prove that he's pro-town?

Because everyone has a right to defend himself. At least, day 1-wise. You don't vote on people that don't post, you ask the mod to prod them and get them replaced. Until that happens, voting for them means voting at random. And that's fairly anti-town (though unavoidable in some cases).

As such, I won't vote for someone that never posted. I suggest you don't rush with that yourself.

@mozamis: your avi is annoying.

Now I wish I had

five

votes. As far as soap-box speeches go, this one not only fails to move me, but it is also wrong. I can vote for non-posters if I please. It's not as if my vote automatically lynches them.

[Meransiel]

No, but people DO tend to jump on wagons if the accused is flaking or passive lurking. And by people, I mean both mafia and pro-town. Patience is all I ask.

[ender241]

VOTE: Scotmany12

[petroleumjelly]

Unvote: mozamis, Vote: Meransiel

I only regret that I only have but one vote to give. We just hit page 3. Acting like you are a fountain of virtue (by speaking of patience and equity) is really not getting you anywhere in my book. Especially since you are making generalizations about how mafia games are generally played and progress while just earlier you conceded your inexperience.

[Truant]

Yeah, I believe it's commonly referred to as IIoA.

Unvote
Vote: Meransiel

[BlenBlen]

VOTE: Truant

I can tell already we're going to have problems this game.

[mozamis]

I'll read through properly later and try and get some scumhunting going.
But just a question relating to theme games -do we say what animal we are, or does that give a clue as to our alignment? Do we roleplay at all, or is that not relevant?

[mozamis]

...I want to vote like four players at once right now!

Assuming there are only 2 scum, why would you want to vote for four people? best to keep the paranoia to a minimum.

[mozamis]

I want to vote like four players at once right now!

Quote fail, sorry.

[Meransiel]

I'll read through properly later and try and get some scumhunting going.
But just a question relating to theme games -do we say what animal we are, or does that give a clue as to our alignment? Do we roleplay at all, or is that not relevant?

Roleplaying animals? Sorry, the closest I've ever been to that was a druid that could become half cougar (yes, he was also immortal and yes, he could reincarnate - I'm overpowered mike that). But the point is, it would be boring.

Yeah, I believe it's commonly referred to as IIoA.

Unvote
Vote: Meransiel

Given there's absolutely no analysis involved, information is the best we've got when speaking of people that don't post.

[petroleumjelly]

Assuming there are only 2 scum, why would you want to vote for four people? best to keep the paranoia to a minimum.

See, this is exactly the reason why I need more votes. I want to vote other people besides you, but you're just not letting me. Why are you "assuming there are only 2 scum" in a thirteen player game?

I am also not amused with your post that boils down to asking us if we should soft-claim a part of our roles.

Unvote: Meransiel, Vote: mozamis

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[Meransiel]

Petro, you change your vote way too often. I'm not suspecting you or anything, it's just a risky thing to do.

[petroleumjelly]

FoS: Meransiel

[scotmany12]

Petro, you change your vote way too often. I'm not suspecting you or anything, it's just a risky thing to do.

Why mention it then if you don't suspect it?

[Meransiel]

Cause it's weird. And usually a scum tell.

[scotmany12]

Cause it's weird. And usually a scum tell.

So then if it's usually a scumtell, why aren't you suspecting PJ when he does it? Why isn't it a scumtell for him?

[Amrun]

If it's a scum tell, why are you not suspicious of him?

p-edit: ninjaed

[Meransiel]

Because it was the first scumtell he presented. As such, it doesn't exactly add up.

[Amrun]

How? We have three pages... What "doesn't add up?" You see a scum tell in the first couple of pages, you generally jump on it and apply pressure.

Unvote

VOTE: mozamis

For assuming two scum. How do you know -- do you only have one scumbuddy?

[Meransiel]

When somebody posts like 7 times per page and only 1 of his posts is even remotely scummy, I tend to not really give a damn.

[mozamis]

Assuming there are only 2 scum, why would you want to vote for four people? best to keep the paranoia to a minimum.

See, this is exactly the reason why I need more votes. I want to vote other people besides you, but you're just not letting me. Why are you "assuming there are only 2 scum" in a thirteen player game?

I am also not amused with your post that boils down to asking us if we should soft-claim a part of our roles.

Unvote: Meransiel, Vote: mozamis

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Well, I'm not here to assume you
Am i wrong to assume 2 scum then? Is more normal in a thirteen player game?
My main point was tho: lets not attack everyone. Particualrly this early on. It seems unlikely that there are four scum. Hence wanting four votes seems a bit hysterical of you.
No, i do not want any claims. I have never played a theme game, so was merely wondering how it works.

[scotmany12]

Unvote, Vote: Meransiel

Not happy with his recent posts at all. Him calling something scummy, but then saying it wasn't suspicious is bleh.

[implosion]

Sorry. I'm not going to be able to make a good post right now. I have 2 days of school left before spring break and like 3 tests within those 2 days, after that I should be good.

[OhGodMyLife]

@scotmany, what are you thoughts on moz? What do you make of moz and meransiel's interactions?

@moz, I'd always like to have multiple votes. Why wouldn't you want extra votes? Calling it "hysterical" is not really an argument.