Jasont1981 - 1 (ZengarZombolt)
Rockynpoika - 1 (Mogri)
TOGTFO - 1 (projectmatt)
Mogri - 1 (MagnaofIllusion)
Not voting: (TOGTFO, runner, Space Pope)
With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch
Day 1 will end no later than 2:30PM CST on Saturday April 23rd.
Doh. That teaches me to directly rely on the recent activity buttonZachrulez wrote: Sisterman has replaced out of the game. TOGTFO holds his spot now and is not eligible for a prod.
Pretty sure he means scum (or town) wouldn't place the L-1 vote at that point.Space Pope wrote:Don't understand the whole prevention part. Are you saying that scum wouldn't put someone at L-2 because it would be too suspicious?ZengarZombolt wrote:EBWOP:Actually this holds true. Until the votes are presented with proper reasoning, you can't really have them count as being actually there unless we had a very dangerous case like L-1 or a full lynch. But on those cases, scumtells would have been oh so obvious, almost sacrificial. You could say that voteMagnaofIllusion wrote: Your response was to not directly answer but first show how the wagon on Project was baseless (in your opinion) and then to try to say that the RVS votes mean Rocky was not really at L-2.preventedscum from voting further on Rocky since it would have been very suspicious with what little reasoning there is normally so early.
Because I wouldn't have been bussing? Defending him is the complete opposite of bussing.TOGTFO wrote:The underlined also does not make since. Bussing is a perfectly reasonable thing to do and I fail to see how you giving a successful buss makes you look scummy.
ZengarZombolt wrote:
Vote's staying where it's at because Jason hasn't answered my question yet. Reposting just for the sake of being nice:ZengarZombolt wrote:@Rocky: Why do you think the case on Matt is more promising? I'm curious.
projectmatt wrote:The same thing can be seem in post 33. A sense of nervousness, and then an unrelated "lol" right after. Note that at the time, it was in the afternoon, and therefore it being late can no fit as a valid excuse.
well, if I feel you have made a scumslip... off course you are going to move up my scum meter, yes?projectmatt wrote:
@Jason, post 48
You posted a while ago claiming that I slipped, and at that point, I had yet to respond. But for some reason you claimed that I have drastically moved up in your scum meter. Why the sudden change inbetween those few posts?
Jason, your post number 54 is confusing to me. I'm not sure what you are implying. I am a frequent player of epicmafia, so yes, I have experience in this game, but mafiascum is unlike this website. There are no such things as RVS's or even asking random questions to get discussion going. Mods can play games as freely as they desire.
Anyway, this is all I have for the moment. I unvote sisterman and withhold future voting until I see more responses and discussions.
where have you been, I suspected rocky right from page 1.. however he is currently 3rd on my list of suspicions... to say I am straying away from him is just plain wrong.projectmatt wrote:
fos's:rockynpoika and jasonT1981
From what I can tell, Jason seems to be attempting to stray as far away from Rocky as possible, but he's desperately clinging to suspect me. A while back he posted that "he doesn't like Rocky's play, but Matt has drastically shot up my scum meter", and that was the end of it.
Saying you suspect somebody and then avoiding them like the plague = a possible light bus.
Space Pope - seems to be asking questions, trying to get a feel for the players coming across as town to me, making some good pointsRunner wrote:jasonT1981: You've been pretty fixed on projectmatt as of late. Thoughts on any other players & their styles of posting?
Because town should not be afraid to say what they feel or be afraid of beign put under presure, its scum who should be afraid of this and therefor are alot more cautious. He said scum are cautious and I am... thenZengarZombolt wrote:
And now some questions.
@Jason: So why is town supposed to be less careful with what they say? Isn't that going to make them prone to commit mistakes that scum can use to their advantage?
I often find those who go out of their way to tell others they are town are usually scum trying to hard to look town... thats just my personal veiw based on things I have seen in mafiaprojectmatt wrote: Sorry, but from my point of view, I am town, and my wording will naturally come out in that way. I can't really help that.
I am sorta on the fence about lynch all liers...mostly it is scum caught lying however I have known town to sometimes lie in what is called a gambit to bring out scum and make them more obivious or catch them red handed.MagnaofIllusion wrote:Lynch all Liars, like all policy lynches, is flawed at best. I see it implemented as often as an excuse for Scum to effect a bad lynch as I do Town using it to lynch scum.TOGTFO wrote:@MOI- What is your viewpoint on Lynch-all-Liars?
I'm not sure I have anything of substance, but I suppose I can share a few of my first impressions upon reading the thread. Please keep in mind they are just observations I've made, as well as general impressions of some of your actions. So don't expect much in the way of a vote to lynch anyone just yet. Yes... it is a wall of text. If you are going to quote this post, please edit out anything not directly contributing to what you have to say about whatever it is you are specifically addressing.Mogri wrote:Do you have any impressions you'd like to share? There must be something you've gleaned from all that reading.
I mostly always will make a random vote then get down to business. Either it be in the same post or a bit later in the game.. just so happened I saw things I wanted to address in my first post.Darkcoffeejazz wrote:
JasonT1981: I'm curious as to why exactly you felt the need to random vote, unvote, and then vote again in the same exact post. While this may not be scummy in and of itself, I felt that your random vote then became an unnecessary part of your post. I realize this may have been a joke vote, but still. I just found it a bit odd is all. From what I can glean, you were all for voting projectmatt, due in part to the large misunderstanding of the use of the word "mods" in regards to EpicMafia, as well as projectmatt's inadequate explanations of the site itself. I am not entirely sure how I feel about you at this moment in time, to be quite honest. I felt you were tunneling a bit on projectmatt a bit, again due to the EM misunderstanding. I also believe Runner posted something to this effect as well, in his ISO post #4.
Why does he get Town points for unvoting for the replacement when the slot in question had only 1 vote at that point. Hardly the case where there was any threat of a accidental lynch of Rocky / Dark.Jason wrote:town points for unvoting rocky when he left to give replacement time to catch up
What do you think of SpacePope’s floating of the Lynch All Liars policy in regards to Matt given it was based on the following facts?Jason wrote:I am sorta on the fence about lynch all liers...mostly it is scum caught lying however I have known town to sometimes lie in what is called a gambit to bring out scum and make them more obivious or catch them red handed.
At the point you posted this the thread had been open approximately 6 RL days.Dark wrote:I'm not entirely sure what's going on in your real life, but despite being an SE in this game, I felt you haven't posted as much as anyone else. I counted and apparently you have a whopping 6 posts.
You are incorrect in regards to your assessment. My vote for Rocky was random. While I couched it in regards to his belief that RVS does not provide information that certainly isn’t scummy. Many experienced players disagree with my perception. My ‘reasoning’ was no different than a person voting due to disliking an avatar. Read the sentences that precede my vote where I discuss the RVS stage and place my vote. The inference was that it was Random along with everyone elses. Had it been a non-RVS vote I would have specifically mentioned such. I can provide examples of other games where I do that if you would like.Dark wrote:Magna, you also didn't random vote, unless I'm missing it. Again, this is just an observation. I don't know why you feel that anyone who thinks that RVS is devoid of information must be scum, however, when you yourself did not randomly vote. I do not count the vote on Rocky as random, as you were voting him for a specific game-related reason. If I am wrong about this observation, please enlighten me as to why.