Bloodbath in Camden - Game Over!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

King is terribad town.

He's not scum, because no scum in their right minds would complain about needing a reasoning to vote on SOMEONE ELSES wagon.

But he is stupid.

Moreover, I'm more interested in all the people who jumped onto his wagon. There are at least 2 scums in there looking for an easy lynch.

Scum like to nitpick to seem like they're being productive.

VOTE: King

Sorry for being inactive. I didn't realize the game had started.

In Order:

1) That's true, but no scum in their right mind would nitpick on something like this. Questioning RVS is asking to be lynched. Players will read it as scum by action, rather than assessing intent. This also lends to scum who are happy to hop on the wagon.
2) Your vote isn't all that great either TBH.

[populartajo]

page 1

unvote:
Vote: CJMiller

What, King, do you don't like bandwagons?

unvote;
vote: KingTwelveSixteen

what is this i dont even
voting against someone because he doesnt like bandwagons?

Lol obvscum is scared of votes in RVS. Nice.

Vote: King

this is also fail. why a scum would be scared of votes against another player?

easy target all the way, yeah i think king is likely town.

page 2
hiraki is town but wrong town.
so is slaxx.
togello is conservative town, his defense of king rngs sincere.

page 3
more of hiraky and slaxx being wrong townies.
more of togello conservative towniness
i dont like the longing vote; im waitng for a better description when he comex back
ladylamba is so town it hurts
i hate bobsnox vote in bottom of page.

damn too many town reads.

[Empking]

LLD and Tajo: Why are both of you so stupid to think that scum don't have scumbuddies? Am I missing something?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD and Tajo: Why are both of you so stupid to think that scum don't have scumbuddies? Am I missing something?

You are suggesting that Toog and King are scum buddies?

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[populartajo]

town

06. KingTwelveSixteen
12. Lady Lambdadelta
14. Toogeloo
16. Slaxx
10. Me=Weird
11. Hiraki

neutral

03. Empking
04. CooLDoG
05. Shattered Viewpoint
07. GreyICE
09. CJMiller

scum

02. Furcolow
08. bobsnox
13. TheLonging
15. Exe

Vote: Exe.

[populartajo]

LLD and Tajo: Why are both of you so stupid to think that scum don't have scumbuddies? Am I missing something?

cut the personal attacks

i dont understand what makes you think that

be more specifici.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Tajo: CoolDog is the superior wagon.

[Empking]

LLD and Tajo: Why are both of you so stupid to think that scum don't have scumbuddies? Am I missing something?

You are suggesting that Toog and King are scum buddies?

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"Hey why are you joining my early distancing wagon!"

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Tajo: Scum don't want scum to die. The only reason why you could say "Why would he care about a possible scumbuddy of his dying" is if you decided he had no scumbuddies. So why do you think that?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD and Tajo: Why are both of you so stupid to think that scum don't have scumbuddies? Am I missing something?

You are suggesting that Toog and King are scum buddies?

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"Hey why are you joining my early distancing wagon!"

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Tajo: Scum don't want scum to die. The only reason why you could say "Why would he care about a possible scumbuddy of his dying" is if you decided he had no scumbuddies. So why do you think that?

Yes, because scumbuddies would be that obvious?

You're just trying to push the easiest wagon/lynch.

[populartajo]

Tajo: Scum don't want scum to die. The only reason why you could say "Why would he care about a possible scumbuddy of his dying" is if you decided he had no scumbuddies. So why do you think that?

but i have town reads on both toogelo and king. When did I say one of them was scum?

[GreyICE]

CooLDoG is a known incompetent. I am NOT sure he's a scummy one.

Frankly, I don't see why you're both giving Toogeloo a pass. That list of names was terrible.

LLD - Why is CooLDoG the scummiest right now?

Tajo - Why is Toogeloo town? Why is Furcolow scum?

King1016 - EmpKing is abrasive, arrogant, and has strong scumreads. This is town EmpKing. Now what makes you think he is scum? Also what's your opinion of Hiraki?

[Empking]

LLD and Tajo: Why are both of you so stupid to think that scum don't have scumbuddies? Am I missing something?

You are suggesting that Toog and King are scum buddies?

nope.jpg

"Hey why are you joining my early distancing wagon!"

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Tajo: Scum don't want scum to die. The only reason why you could say "Why would he care about a possible scumbuddy of his dying" is if you decided he had no scumbuddies. So why do you think that?

Yes, because scumbuddies would be that obvious?

Seriously that's your argument. "King and Toogelo are obviously buddies therefore they can't be buddies."

You're just trying to push the easiest wagon/lynch.

Why is it an easy wagon/lynch? (Because they're obv-scum buddies?)

[GreyICE]

LLD, lay off EmpKing. He's annoying, but he's obvtown.

Which probably means at least 50% of his reads are wrong

[Empking]

Tajo:

this is also fail. why a scum would be scared of votes against another player?

Is that or is that not a quote from you. Why are you trying to move the goalposts? Also, does your defence of King just a painted up version "He's town because I think he's town"? If so, why did you paint it up?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Frankly, they aren't buddies because King is town, and his questioning of other peoples votes has town intent behind it, and is something scum would never do (because they would be wagoned for it, as evidenced by this wagon).

Further, it's an easy wagon as I explained earlier, because players will jump on anyone who questions RVS, completely ignoring any kind of intent. It already has 7 votes on it, and there is a lot of opportunistic scum on it looking for the easiest lynch.

Also, your proxy defense of CoolDog/Exe is noted.

P-Edit: On what ground Grey-kun?

[populartajo]

why toogelo is town:

Hey Guys!
-getslynched.

bad first post as scum, brings unnecessary attention. (as it did)

I like advocating any lynch that isn't mine on the first page, but the votes on King are highly misreped considering all he asked for was reasons for votes that were on me. He at least gave one, everyone else who voted me didn't even say hello, just plopped down a vote. I can agree that reasoning, no matter how shitty and weak, should still be given in a vote, otherwise it just looks opportunistic at best.

the defense of king rings sincere albeit kinda wrong.
toogeloscum wouldnt have defended the kingtown wagon.
the only way this could make sense is if toogelo and king are scum together which is unlikely taking into account toogelo is so conservative*, it was page 2 and we are in a quicky game.

*

Am I supposed to have a scum read on page 2? I guess amongst all these people with scum reads on page 1, it seems a little abnormal. That's not how I play though, get used to it.

the list was meh, id say there is some merit on his analysis of the one post voters, but its not indicative of alingment, its indicative of the conservative playstyle: chasing lurkers.

[populartajo]

why furcolow is scum

page 1

unvote:
Vote: CJMiller

What, King, do you don't like bandwagons?

unvote;
vote: KingTwelveSixteen

what is this i dont even
voting against someone because he doesnt like bandwagons?

[Empking]

Frankly, they aren't buddies because King is town, and his questioning of other peoples votes has town intent behind it, and is something scum would never do (because they would be wagoned for it, as evidenced by this wagon).

So do you think King has psycic abilities to seen in the future or do scum in general make no mistakes?

Further, it's an easy wagon as I explained earlier, because players will jump on anyone who questions RVS, completely ignoring any kind of intent. It already has 7 votes on it, and there is a lot of opportunistic scum on it looking for the easiest lynch.

But surely the player ignoring King's intent (to stall the Tooge wagon while not needing to (scummily) jump off it) is you? The person calling him town?

Also, your proxy defense of CoolDog/Exe is noted.

Your scummy defence of King by trying to shut me up is also noted. (This is erspecially concerning since you already revealed that you already had your "Would I really defend King this much if we were scum together" WIFOM planned out.)

Edit: Pop the person who posts first is the person who first sees the open thread.n Your second point is just circular. Your third is using meta without actually checking whether your meta analysis is accurate.

[populartajo]

LLD, lay off EmpKing. He's annoying, but he's obvtown.

Which probably means at least 50% of his reads are wrong

im really not used to active and agressive empking. its kinda a surprise.

emp: king isnt town because I think is town, its a mix of factors that include people voting against him using bad reasoning:
im curious, what do you think of Furc's reasons to vote king?

unvote:
Vote: CJMiller

What, King, do you don't like bandwagons?

unvote;
vote: KingTwelveSixteen

what about Exe's?

Lol obvscum is scared of votes in RVS. Nice.

Vote: King

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok, so you've gone from being stupid to deliberately misinterpreting my points.

The first point is just an obvious statement of fact. Question who is on a wagon with you is a town move. Scum would rather just let the wagon ride.

The second point is proven by the fact that the King wagon EVEN EXISTS. Simply by the existence of this wagon, this level of reasoning is possible for

Furude Erika

Lady Lambdadelta.

On the third point, nice deflection.

[GreyICE]

@LLD: I told you. He's arrogant, annoying, lecturing us, has strong scumreads, they don't make a whole lot of sense, and anyone who disagrees with him he's pushing. TOWN. I swear LLD, lay off him.

@Tajo: Okay. I'll buy that for Toogaloo and Furcolow.

Okay, Tajo, Empking, LLD, have we all established that you're all town? Good. Now, all of you:

What do you think of this King wagon?

PEDIT: This was pretty much Mini 1117, Mayo clinic, god so many town EmpKing games I've played with him. The waltz goes like this

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Grey-kun, why don't you go an properly read what I have posted, and see if you can determine what I think about the King wagon?

I mean, if you had even read my posts, you'd know what my opinion is.

[Empking]

Pop

Furc: Its Furc but I agree with his vote. He's probably the scummiest on the King wagon.
Exe: King is obvscum but Exe was the first to mention it. That looks like town to me.

There reasons might not be the best witten but I think there's an implicit "on your scumbuddies" in there which make them the same as mine.

Preview: The King wagon is great. (Though going too slow, we've got a RL day left?)

LLD: On the second point, I don't see how your explaination fits with what I said. On the first point, which one was it again? I don't think you answered the question.

[Toogeloo]

@toogy, do you understand the meaning of the word meaningful? Because you putting pressure on those players isn't meaningful and it doesn't really help the town. If anything else your posts are anti-town.

Do you know what the definition of "facetious" is? The post was not intended to be hardcore pressure, it was meant to slap Slaxx in the face that he demand I pressure someone. I pointed out that half the game wasn't active at the time, and that my playstyle works in a different way. For the hard of seeing, I basically stated 8 players (half the game) that I wanted pressure on. Obviously, that isn't going to happen.


I still don't see how GreyICE can call Empking practically confirmed town from earlier, but the latest series of votes do show some conviction on his part.

[populartajo]

GreyIce

[6] KingTwelveSixteen[/size] - Hiraki, Empking, CooLDoG, Slaxx, Furcolow, Exe]

As I said, I think this wagon is full of wrong townies: hiraki, slaxx, maybe empking and scumbags riding the wagon using bad reasoning: furcolow and Exe.