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[neil1113]

Yeah I think I've got it now Caboose. I just made the mistake not looking this up. Like I didn't realize that nobody has a kill either!

[Sloth]

I think the werewolves have a kill, neil.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Yeah I think I've got it now Caboose. I just made the mistake not looking this up. Like I didn't realize that nobody has a kill either!

Read the role PMs again carefully and clearly.

The Werewolves have Night Kill.
The Evil Sheep do not.

You've been on site for almost 8 months now. Your newb-pass has expired.

[Empking]

Note to self: Vote neil.

[Caboose]

Someone's eager to lay down a vote before the Mod officially starts the game ...

The thread's open. I think the game's started. And of course I'm eager to lay down a vote. RVS rules!

[MagnaofIllusion]

This game will begin when all players have confirmed

. To confirm, please post the code in your role PM in this thread. NOTE: codes are random and have no relation to role or alignment.

Caboose the bolded portion of the Mod's statements is relevant to this discussion.

[Wickedestjr]

@neil1113 - The Mafia (Evil Sheep) and Werewolves are two separate scum factions that are against eachother as well as town. The Mafia (Evil Sheep) don't have a kill, but the Werewolves do.

Someone's eager to lay down a vote before the Mod officially starts the game ...

Your point?

[Twistedspoon]

I see no problem with voting now

VOTE: neil

first thing I'd do as mafia would be to get the knowledge of my own faction wrong

also, I remember you requesting in the open queue to be in a killing faction. That's evidence for both mafioso and werewolf and pretty good so far considering we haven't officially started yet

[Umbrage]

The game will begin when either toffee confirms or my clock hits 1:00 and I ask for a replacement for toffee. Any votes made before then will not be counted.

also, I remember you requesting in the open queue to be in a killing faction.

All roles have been randomly distributed with random.org, this is not a U-Pick. In the future, I will count statements of this nature as a violation of Rule #1.

[Wickedestjr]

I see no problem with voting now

VOTE: neil

first thing I'd do as mafia would be to get the knowledge of my own faction wrong

also, I remember you requesting in the open queue to be in a killing faction.

That's evidence for both mafioso and werewolf

and pretty good so far considering we haven't officially started yet

How so?

[neil1113]

I see no problem with voting now

VOTE: neil

first thing I'd do as mafia would be to get the knowledge of my own faction wrong

also, I remember you requesting in the open queue to be in a killing faction. That's evidence for both mafioso and werewolf and pretty good so far considering we haven't officially started yet

Wait, but I also thought that the roles are random? So this couldn't actually be a probable concern.

Also, 8 months on this site yes, but I've never played in a game with two Mafia's. I've played in Normal and in Newbie games. And yes, Werewolves do have kills. Sorry, I misspoke.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Your point?

I had one.

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first thing I'd do as mafia would be to get the knowledge of my own faction wrong

So you think the best move for Neil (8 months on MS) in an Open game is to specifically pretend he doesn’t understand the roles as a Gambit. When the result is you immediately jumping on him that exact thing.

[Twistedspoon]

How so?

he could be mafia since he seems to have got knowledge of the scum faction wrong. That's what I'd do if i were mafia. Get knowledge of my faction wrong to make it look like I wasn't mafia

yeah, the reasoning isn't the best, but it's not bad considering the game hasn't even started yet

also, forget the werewolf bit. I suppose the roles were randomly generated, so we can ignore neil's request for being in a killing faction pre-game

So you think the best move for Neil (8 months on MS) in an Open game is to specifically pretend he doesn’t understand the roles as a Gambit. When the result is you immediately jumping on him that exact thing.

I never said it would be the best thing to do, but it sure would be what I'd do

[Wickedestjr]

@MoI - And what was it?

So you think the best move for Neil (8 months on MS) in an Open game is to specifically pretend he doesn’t understand the roles as a Gambit. When the result is you immediately jumping on him that exact thing.

This is a good point.

@Twistedspoon - What gives you the impression that this is a scum gambit instead of a mistake due to inexperience?

I never said it would be the best thing to do, but it sure would be what I'd do

So, do you or do you not think that would've been the best thing to do? If not, then why would you have done it?

Also, you haven't answered my previous question. You said that him requesting to be in a killing faction in the queue was evidence that he was scum in this game. Why?

[Twistedspoon]

@Twistedspoon -

1) What gives you the impression that this is a scum gambit instead of a mistake due to inexperience?

I never said it would be the best thing to do, but it sure would be what I'd do

2) So, do you or do you not think that would've been the best thing to do? If not, then why would you have done it?

3) Also, you haven't answered my previous question. You said that him requesting to be in a killing faction in the queue was evidence that he was scum in this game. Why?

1) nothing, how could it? There's no way to tell for certain that it's a gambit. However it makes a very respectable RVS wagon
2) I'm not sure If it'd be the

best

thing. Magna seems to think not. I'd have done it to distance myself from the scum faction were I scum
3) I've reconsidered and I think it's shoddy evidence now that I remember random.org has been used to generate the roles. I doubt our mod would take role requests, especially ones that were posted in the open queue for all to see :p

[MagnaofIllusion]

I never said it would be the best thing to do, but it sure would be what I'd do

1. Do you have sufficent reason to think (meta-wise) that neil’s thought processes closely mirror your own?
2. Thank you for giving me a reason to lynch you if I ever see you make a mistake on ‘facts’ about an open game set-up in regards to the Mafia faction(s).

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@MoI - And what was it?

To get a reaction to help me form an opinion on his alignment. What other reason would you suspect?

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Is it 1 o’clock yet?

[Umbrage]

Sorry for the delay. Regfan has offered to replace toffee.

The sheep gather around the Killing Stone, a sharp piece of granite in a six foot deep pit. Today, one of you will be forced to jump... but who?

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Regfan]

Confirm 5190.

It's nearing 4am, heading to bed should catch up tommorow.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I think Empking would be a great candidate to test whether Sheep may fly ...

VOTE: Empking

[toffee]

5190

@MOD

- you might want to be on the look-out for a possible replacement for toffee. His / her one post on site was the sign-up for this game on April 9th.

Argh u evil! Be patient plz >.<
Although almost bored to death waiting the queue to filled, I checked the forum regularly. Is catching up the 2 pages now.. lol..

[toffee]

Sorry for the delay. Regfan has offered to replace toffee.

The sheep gather around the Killing Stone, a sharp piece of granite in a six foot deep pit. Today, one of you will be forced to jump... but who?

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Don't u dare.. :p

[MagnaofIllusion]

Um it's probably a little late ... we'll see how kind our Mod AKA The Devil is ...

[Empking]

Vote: Neil

[toffee]

Okay, sorry for the triple post, I guess I've been replaced from what I've read.. Sigh.. T-T

[Umbrage]

Regfan confirmed first, so the spot is his.

Empking (1) - MagnaofIllusion
neil1113 (1) - Empking

Not Voting: Twistedspoon, Regfan, Caboose, neil1113, HezLucky, DeityKabuto, Wickedestjr, zMuffinMan, Sloth, cjdrum.