Congratulations to Regfan and Havingfitz! Well played.
Firstly:
Wickedestjr wrote:Alright. I'm not finished catching up, but I have work to do. So, here are my thoughts:
LynchMePls - Scum. Didn't like the catchup post.
Regfan - Town.
DeityKabuto - Town.
HezLucky - Neutral. (Looks a little bit better after reading his last big post in day 1.)
cjdrum - Scum.
MagnaofIllusion - Town.
neil1113 - Neutral/Scum (His reaction to my suspicion of him looks a little bit townish, but there are still a few questions I need answered.
Sloth - Scum.
zMuffinMan - Neutral/Scum
I'd like to read my scumspects in ISO later as well.
I was pretty close.
And I even thought Regfan was the last scum after LMP flipped scum.
I really wish I had had more time near the end of the game to create a case, though. I had a pretty good idea of who the scum were, but had no idea who was in which group (which was why I kept switching my vote from neil to havingfitz). I noticed a possible Regfan-neil connection and later a Regfan-zMM connection, but never did I suspect that Regfan and havingfitz were scumbuddies. Regfan's suspicion of Sloth and, later, the arguments between him and havingfitz, which looked pretty natural, both threw me off track.
I think that the Werewolves definitely outplayed the town this game. However, after playing this game, I still think that Jungle Republic is a very difficult setup to win in as town. Town has to be consistently on the right track and can't afford more than one mislynch without having to rely on the werewolves nightkilling one or two of the mafia members. However, the problem with this is that once we lynched one of the mafia members, werewolves had hardly any incentive to get rid of the other group (which was evident in this game). So, in hindsight, I think the optimal strategy for town in this setup is to start by going after werewolves. But determining which group scum are in without any scumflips is a challenge. I also think that finding
any
scum is slightly more challenging in this game, because the scum
are
scumhunting- they are just hunting for the opposite group. For example, despite suspecting Regfan, zMM, and havingfitz on D3, I could tell, or at least thought, they were all trying to scumhunt. It doesn't really help if there's just a single powerrole which could easily die early in the game (which happened in this case), before they told us their results, or after they revealed a scum result. I like the idea of having a deputy or backup seer, but I still think the town would need more.
Even if the game wasn't perfectly balanced, I still agree that town played pretty poorly. Firstly, while the town was incorrect to suspect Empking, I still think that Empking should take some of the blame for this loss. As a seer, the only powerrole in a Jungle Republic, getting into a serious argument in the first few pages of the game and attracting so much attention isn't the optimal strategy. Seers are only beneficial if they survive through a few nights, but if they are outed on day 1, that leaves the town in a really tough situation. Secondly, I never saw the cases against Empking, DK, MoI, or HL. I thought that pretty poor points were pushed against them. But maybe that's just me.
Oh well. I still enjoyed this game and that's really what matters.
Umbrage, thanks for an excellent game!
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky"
-Wickedestjr
