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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:33 am
by MagnaofIllusion
Vote Count 1.1 - As of post 50

Fate (4) - Nopointinactingup, Agar, crazypianist1116, GreyICE
bvoigt (1) - Glass
Katsuki (1) - Riceballtail
Agar (1) - Raivann
Lady Lambdadelta (0) -
crazypianist1116 (0) -
Surye (1) - Lady Lambdadelta
ThAdmiral (0) -
Riceballtail (0) -
Glass (0) -
Nopointinactingup (0) -
GreyIce (0) -
Raivann (0) -

Not Voting (5) - Fate, bvoigt, Katsuki, Surye, ThAdmiral

The Current deadline is May 18th at 9am EST. The Countdown can be found HERE

With 13 alive - 7 are required to lynch.

Activity Check - All good currently.


Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:44 am
by Katsuki
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BTW, LLD~!

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:44 am
by Glass
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 23&t=15670

This is what happens when you let Flavor rule a town.

I know because I've done it, and I've won games as scum using it.

Flavor speculation leads nowhere but downhill.

You know that someone would try and speculate that any non-rock songs are of a different factions.

Scum would JUMP on that.

Hey, I like that variation of "Hitler built autobahns" fallacy. Also using one example can prove any "fact" in mafia. And although it is true that if flavor takes over all conversation than it is very bad for town, simply speculating flavor being worse than staying in RVS? Nah. If you know that scum would jump on that, would it not be better to let this go through and then be able to easily finger the scum?

LLD wrote:
WHAT BENEFIT CAN COME FROM SPECULATING FLAVOR?


I made it big so you can't miss it.

I presented a perfectly reasonable reason in my previous post. And I wasn't saying: "HEY ANYONE WHO ISN'T ROCK IS SCUM" I was trying to get some information out on the table. Withholding this kind of information can only hinder the job of cops in this game.

LLD wrote:Essentially, are you just fucking about and wasting our time as town?

Or are you using flavor as a tool as scum?

Your call Glass. ^-^

Seriously? Moving out of the RVS is hardly wasting time, if you want to see wasting time you can look at posts 43-49.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:56 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Glass wrote:I am curious what reason LLD would NOT want to know this, it is not like scum can figure out PRs by genre
and if we have some kind of namecop it is in our best interest to confirm that all town are rock.

VOTE: LLD


Glass wrote:I presented a perfectly reasonable reason in my previous post.
And I wasn't saying: "HEY ANYONE WHO ISN'T ROCK IS SCUM"


Liar.

As for your "perfectly reasonable reason", that's basically you doing speculation. You're speculating about not only FLAVOR, but also throwing out a "WHAT IF THERE IS A NAME COP" thing too.

Your "perfectly reasonable reason" is the only true fallacy I see Glass.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:59 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Query: If you didn't mean that anyone who isn't Rock is scum... why would a name cop help us?

Because as I see it... us claiming whether we are rock or not only aids a Name Cop... if you believe that a certain faction would all fall under a "non-rock" condition.

So essentially you're backtracking and lying.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:05 pm
by Glass
:roll:

YES, BECAUSE IF EVERYONE CLAIMS ROCK THEN IT IS PRETTY DAMN OBVIOUS THAT ALL TOWNIES ARE ROCK, IS IT NOT? THAT IS WHAT I MEANT BY CONFIRM!!!

LLD wrote:If you didn't mean that anyone who isn't Rock is scum... why would a name cop help us?

In that case a name cop wouldn't help us out, WHICH IS WHY I WANT TO SEE.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:09 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
Glass wrote::roll:

YES, BECAUSE IF EVERYONE CLAIMS ROCK THEN IT IS PRETTY DAMN OBVIOUS THAT ALL TOWNIES ARE ROCK, IS IT NOT? THAT IS WHAT I MEANT BY CONFIRM!!!

LLD wrote:If you didn't mean that anyone who isn't Rock is scum... why would a name cop help us?

In that case a name cop wouldn't help us out, WHICH IS WHY I WANT TO SEE.


This info helps scum more than town.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:15 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
Considering that Scum benefits from finding out that all town are rock songs, where as town gains nothing from that.

You know, unless your speculated name cop exists.

Which I think personally is just an excuse for you to defend your flavor based subtle rolefishing, when you got called on it.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:20 pm
by Glass
LLD wrote:rolefishing

lol?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:21 pm
by Glass
LLD wrote:
This info helps scum more than town.

Meh, that really depends.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:25 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
Glass wrote:
LLD wrote:rolefishing

lol?


Real cool quote of one word in my post, taking it entirely out of context.

What the post that this came from was saying, is that you and GI are both supporting something that gives info about our roles to scum.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:03 pm
by GreyICE
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
GreyICE wrote:
Pedit2: Glass is a guy.


I BLAME THE NUMEROUS APPLETINIS FOR THIS.

Happy birthday!

Appletinis are the devil. Last time I lost about 3 hours :P

Also, I'm Dream On... by the Glee Cast.

I think MoI needs to start posting in Guys part 2 ;)

I don't think so. Anything Neil Patrick Harris is involved with is ... oh, right. Nevermind.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:16 pm
by Glass
WTF WAS THAT ICE?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:23 pm
by GreyICE
Me laughing at this general debate.

Oh and mentioning my name/genre for this name cop :P (Seriously, how the fuck did my minor throwaway become this ridiculous conflagration)?

I mean you realize we have enough people who haven't posted to make an entire scumteam, right?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:04 pm
by Raivann
Haha! I can't decide which is funnier, that MoI has a cover song from glee cast on his ipod or that he gave you the song/role!

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:16 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
GreyICE wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
GreyICE wrote:
Pedit2: Glass is a guy.


I BLAME THE NUMEROUS APPLETINIS FOR THIS.

Happy birthday!

Appletinis are the devil. Last time I lost about 3 hours :P

Also, I'm Dream On... by the Glee Cast.

I think MoI needs to start posting in Guys part 2 ;)

I don't think so. Anything Neil Patrick Harris is involved with is ... oh, right. Nevermind.


ITT MoI confirms GI's role name? >.<

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:18 pm
by GreyICE
I'm now confirmed...

























flamboyant!

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:19 pm
by GreyICE
Anyway, didn't we have an excellent Fate wagon going? And look at what he's done since his wagon fell apart. He's made just as many scummy posts after that as he did before it!

Unvote

Vote: Fate


Good wagon is good!

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:36 pm
by GreyICE
I got a PM.

Apparently Fate is lynch immune today, so we have to get a buddy :(

ThAdmiral wrote:
Katsuki wrote:LLD and I are alignment confirmed masons.

Wait, actually?


YIPPEE

Vote: ThAdmiral

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:49 pm
by Glass
ICE, are you trying to bring us back into the RVS? I thought you said you hated it?

K, thought about it some more and I don't see how knowing that town is rock could possibly help scum. When I posted 59 I thought that it may help mafia come up with a reasonable fakeclaim, but that does not really make sense since if the town have no flavor knowledge as the scum could claim anything and if scum don't need to claim day 1 they can clearly see that the person lynched + NK were rock genre and make up a claim from there. So how does this information help scum LLD?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:56 pm
by Katsuki
I just went and listened to my song...

It's terrible...

Not to mention, my PM includes the words "slut" and "slutty"...
FUCK YOU MOI.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 4:42 pm
by Glass
katsuki, you don't have anything to say about the LLD-me exchange? Or anything game related for that matter?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 4:54 pm
by GreyICE
Glass wrote:ICE, are you trying to bring us back into the RVS? I thought you said you hated it?

No, that'd be a rather serious vote for a rather scummy poster.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:01 pm
by ThAdmiral
I have no idea whether people are being serious or just fucking with me.

This game seems like it's going to be entertaining!

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:04 am
by bvoigt
Sorry, I'll get a real post up this evening.